Conservatives raising money off of CBC and Graves

I received an advance draft of a fundraising letter that is going out to Conservative members soon in order to raise money off of the CBC/Graves relationship. Here it is.

Here we go again.

Yes, I am writing to you about the CBC. Canada’s national public broadcaster. A Crown Corporation that receives over one billion dollars per year from taxpayers. A network with a mandate to serve all Canadians.

In recent days we have learned that the CBC’s pollster on party politics, Frank Graves, has been providing both money (at least $10,762.81 since 2001 according to Elections Canada) and strategic advice to the Liberal Party of Canada. His contributions are huge and his advice is incendiary. Graves wants the Ignatieff Liberals to wage a divisive “Culture War” that would pit East against West, young against old, and urban Canada against rural Canada. He even suggests that if people don’t like the Ignatieff Liberal vision of Canada they can move to the United States (an odd statement given Michael Ignatieff’s fondness for America).

Week after week Graves expresses opinions about Canadian politics under the guise of being the CBC’s neutral pollster on party politics. And just until recently viewers have been kept in the dark about his Liberal contributions and his Liberal advice. But the CBC continues to stand by Graves, their “neutral” pollster.

This episode demonstrates – once again – that we Conservatives are up against a powerful array of vested interests. Vested interests who want to go back to the days of Jean Chretien and Paul Martin. Back to higher taxes. Back to a weakened military. Back to political correctness. And they’re willing to support a highly divisive “Culture War” to take us back.

We can’t afford to go back. We can’t afford to let Frank Graves and the Liberal “Culture War” to prevail. Because Canada, after years of drift, is once again moving forward. Our world-leading Economic Action Plan is delivering results. Our military is being re-built. And there’s a new spirit of national pride taking root across the country. These changes did not happen by accident. They are a result of strong Conservative leadership. Never before has the choice in national politics been so clear.

I am asking you to do two things.

First, write to the CBC and tell them it’s unacceptable to present Frank Graves as a neutral pollster on party politics. You can reach the CBC’s ombudsman by email at ombudsman@cbc.ca, or by phone at 1-416-205-2978.

Second, please make a contribution to the Conservative Party of $200 or $100 right now by following this link. Unlike the Liberals, we can’t count on the vested interests. We rely on donations from proud patriotic Canadians like you.

Doug Finley
Campaign Director

  • Harry98

    I don't think there was any doubt that Graves was a Liberal supporter. He was always so far off on his polls.

  • Gary

    why font they simply defund the CBC 100%. It would be a confidence issue? Will iffy fight an election for the CBC? I suspect not. End this useless unwatched by the vast majority of Canadian travesty. Now!

  • runnerthefirst

    Based on the sense of the comments I have been reading on various news outlets Mr. Graves now has his culture war of east vs west. Your one moment of over blown bluster has started to open wounds and divide the country. 'Idiot' is the only word I can think of to describe you at this time.

  • Jen

    Stephen T. I don't think half of this country know who the prime minister is as we have heard from the national CBC the way they address the prime minister as HARPER, hoping I guess that they don't him nor acknowledge him as PM nor have given him credit for the work which he has done for this great country.

    I assume that CBC now LBC want to keep their liberals 'culture of corruption' a secret from the public-(nothing surprising), while promoting the liberals.

  • Bec

    Are you talking about Graves, runnerthefirst? It's hard to tell with your comment..
    That is where the anger needs to be placed, CBC for not sending a clear message after those words and the Liberal leadership for allowing it to fester. The Liberals are right on cue incorporating the Graves advice. Their actions and decisions have made that abundantly clear.

  • bettie

    This is my email to the obudsman. Hope it's OK.

    Dear Sir,

    I am writing to you regarding the remarks that Mr. Graves gave to the Liberal Party of Canada. He is advocating pitting one region of the country against another, one belief system against another, etc. I'm sure you are aware of the full text of his comments.

    Anybody is free to express their advice to any political party, but now that he has come out as a Liberal Party advisor, he must no longer be a paid pollster for the CBC. His pay comes, via the CBC, from Canadian tax-payers of all political stripes. His advice shows favouritism for one particular brand, and thus his polling numbers are suspect and not to be trusted.

    Mr. Graves gave a very weird apology, stating in it that he could empirically show that homophobes and racists are drawn to the Conservative Party of Canada. Does that mean he polls people asking if they are homophobes or racists and who they vote for? I doubt it. Following that reasoning, one could say that prisoners and criminals are drawn to the Liberal Party as we understand they mostly vote Liberal.

    There are many other ridiculous statements from this man. I do NOT want my tax money paying for Mr. Grave's polling.

    Sincerely,

  • Mary T

    Excellent letter. The problem with it is it doesn't leave many points for the rest of us to make without the cbc saying a lot of form letters were sent.
    Guess I will demand the cbc head honch publicly sever all contracts with EKOS and repeat it every hour.
    I will also suggest (demand) the the PM be given the respect he deserves and from now on use his title when referring to him on tv. And to prove they are not in the liberals pockets, all anchors will not exhibit body language or facial expressions to show their contempt for our PM and his government.
    The cbc has banned certain words, and other politically incorrect (wrong) terms, so they can ban insulting remarks re our PM. In addition, I request that the cbc quit using unidentified sources or innuendos.
    Sorry Graves, this time we will fight the war and take back our country.
    I still think the cbc thought by hiring Kory they were getting another dissatisfied former employee like Tom Flanagan.
    And we should resend those e-mails every day till action is taken. Will there be an EKOS poll next week, if not, whatever will Kady do.

  • skipper

    I would like to know the salaries of the CBC types.
    M Enright, Terry M., Chantelle Hebert, Anna Maria,etc, etc.
    Here they are raking someone through the coals and destroying reputations and they are the ones with the big bucks from the taxpayer.
    Fed up with them!!

  • Observant

    Come the next election, you can bet Liberal Grave's “cultural war” will be mentioned in CPC truth attack ads, and if the CBC continues to retain EKOS, that will totally discredit the CBC in the eyes of Canadians.

    Notice that this story seems to have lost it's “legs”, but if it were a Conservative pollster it would be smeared across the country for days if not weeks by our distinguished and diligent MSM, declaring that conservatives intend to wage a cultural war and the media is prepared to lead the charge against it! But nothing much from the Liberal-biased media because it gores their beloved Liberals.

    Ah, come the next election….

  • Gayle

    You poor poor conservatives. The entire world is conspiring against you. It is a wonder how you all cope.

    It is too bad so few of you realize the CPC uses your culture of victimhood to make the party very rich.

  • tori

    and notice how gayle can not even defend the indefensible…by the way she just goes right to the insult instead of perhaps discussing the ramifications of having a biased pollster on the payroll of a taxpayer funded entity…

  • Liz J

    Careful Gayle, don't render the word “culture” meaningless with overuse, overuse of anything can be a wearing thing. Even though it was the free advice from a self described non-Liberal supporting pollster to start a “culture” war you might want to find some ammo and a leader to take charge of operations. You have neither. In fact you are inadvertently conspiring against yourselves, willingly taking any path, no matter how murky, fueled only by a desperate lust for power with nothing to offer beyond being anti-Conservative.

  • Mary T

    So what was Graves culture of victimhood that made his company very rich, via the cdn taxpayer.
    I am sure that with this request for money you have dug deep and sent a cheque to the liberals to retaliate. Where was your outrage when the liberal request for funds went out.
    You have had lots of comments on photo ops of our PM, what is your take on the very phony photo op of your leader at a gym. Doesn't have the sense to balance his hands or his grip, but at least he has a great anti persperent, no sweat showing.

  • Jen

    Sorry to say this but this was coming for a long time while we were asleep. Canada does not have a National Media but the liberals do from coast to coast to coast; only a handful of radio talk show hosts are conservatives but none are seen nor heard on national media.
    What canada needs is another media like FOX, to fill in the blanks where the liberal national television media refuse point blank to tackle.

    In the meantime, we have the LBC, LTV(CTV) to deal with. So what Graves did or say is just about nil to these medias furthermore, without they saying a word; they are hoping that you will soon forget .

  • real conservative

    The CPC will get more support from people like me when it makes this kind of effort common place in their arsenal. Right now, this is sporatic work at best, pushing back against the liberal scammers.

  • Gayle

    No one has established his polling methodology is biased – nor will they.

    I am mocking this because it deserves to be mocked.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Methodology? Perhaps not.

    What about analysis?

  • Gayle

    Well, do you have any evidence to suggest his analysis is biased? The fact he provided financial support to the LPC does not cut it.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Analysis is subjective

  • east of eden

    As Gayle always says, a personal attack is indicative of a lack of anything substantive to input. And, Gayle just proved her own point with her little attack. How droll.

  • Gayle

    So you are saying that Graves is incapable of providing an objective analysis because he supports the liberals?

    Well then why stop at donations? Maybe we should demand all polling companies employ non-partisan, non-voting people to do their analysis.

    I happen to know the Bricker family are strong conservative supporters. Darrell's identical twin brother Cal used to live and work in Edmonton, where he spent much of his time schmoozing with various conservative MLA's and Reform/Alliance/Conservative MP's. Does that necessarily mean any poll from Ipsos Reid is completely biased?

    Alan Gregg once worked for Brian Mulroney, so throw his analysis out the window too.

    Or, you might take the time to review Graves' analysis, based on his objective numbers and methodology, and point out where bias creeps in.

    But we both know you will not do that, because that is not the point of this little exercise. Conservatives know this is not a matter of bias – it is a matter of using this to raise money and incite the base.

  • Eric2502

    I think Garys idea of defunding the CBC is long overdue.

  • http://twitter.com/kferaday Kim Feraday

    Umm speaking of culture wars:

    “Unlike the Liberals, we can’t count on the vested interests. We rely on donations from proud patriotic Canadians like you.”

    So only those Canadians who donate to the CPC are proud patriotic Canadians. What Graves was saying to the Liberals is essentially it might be worth their while to embark on a culture war like the Harper Reform party has been doing for the past decade (and which they learned from the Republicans). Dumb idea, but that's why it's best if these guys stick to the numbers.

  • kenn2

    Your answer implies that no-one who has ever had an opinion about something can be an effective analyst, which is of course provably false.

    A trim carpenter may dislike coving, but chances are he can install it competently. I hate VB but if a client wants, I can program in it. A meteorologist may love sunshine, but if it's gonna rain, he has to tell us that. A pollster, whatever their political lean, would soon be out of business if their analyses weren't professionally done and were in themselves shown to be flawed.

    But it's of course the right's tradition (and Harper's in particular) to attack the messenger whenever they dislike the message.

    The only grounds for attacking Graves is if his company's polling and analysis are inaccurate or otherwise flawed. If EKOS data is good enough to be cited by the National Post, why not for the CBC as well?

  • http://twitter.com/kferaday Kim Feraday

    Umm speaking of culture wars:

    “Unlike the Liberals, we can’t count on the vested interests. We rely on donations from proud patriotic Canadians like you.”

    So only those Canadians who donate to the CPC are proud patriotic Canadians. What Graves was saying to the Liberals is essentially it might be worth their while to embark on a culture war like the Harper Reform party has been doing for the past decade (and which they learned from the Republicans). Dumb idea, but that's why it's best if these guys stick to the numbers.

  • kenn2

    Your answer implies that no-one who has ever had an opinion about something can be an effective analyst, which is of course provably false.

    A trim carpenter may dislike coving, but chances are he can install it competently. I hate VB but if a client wants, I can program in it. A meteorologist may love sunshine, but if it's gonna rain, he has to tell us that. A pollster, whatever their political lean, would soon be out of business if their analyses weren't professionally done and were in themselves shown to be flawed.

    But it's of course the right's tradition (and Harper's in particular) to attack the messenger whenever they dislike the message.

    The only grounds for attacking Graves is if his company's polling and analysis are inaccurate or otherwise flawed. If EKOS data is good enough to be cited by the National Post, why not for the CBC as well?

  • Omanator

    We all have known for some time that the CBC is the Liberal Propaganda machine.
    What bothers me is that CTV, Tom Clarks Power Play has become decidedly worse. His hate for the Priminister you can cut with a knife right through the TV screen. He used to work for the CBC years ago.

    If the Liberal continue with their divide and conquer campaign, i.e. West against East, they will eventually bring about the separation of the Country. There comes a point when the West will be so fed up that they will start the ball rolling, never mind Quebec.