Motion on Adscam to be moved
I’ve learned that Peterborough Conservative MP Dean Del Mastro will move the following motion at committee on Tuesday:
November 1st 2009 represents the fourth anniversary of the first report of the Commission of Inquiry into the Sponsorship Program and Advertising Activities, presided over by Justice Gomery. Despite the time that has passed, we are no closer to knowing which Federal Liberal riding associations benefited from the stolen taxpayer funds or where the missing $43 million dollars highlighted by Justice Gomery ultimately wound up.
The Standing committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics calls on the Auditor General of Canada to conduct a full audit of the sponsorship program to determine which federal Liberal riding associations received stolen funds and to clarify for Canadians who received the missing $43 million dollars.
Stephen Taylor is a scientist, political analyst and a blogger. Taylor writes here regularly and is the founder of bloggingtories.ca. Taylor has contributed to Macleans, CTV, talk radio and has been a featured speaker on new media at numerous events including the Western Standard Cruise and the Forum for Public Policy. In December 2008, Taylor organized Rally for Canada, a series of rallies held coast-to-coast to protest the proposed coalition government.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:04 pm
YAH!!!!!!!!!
Auditor General of Canada to conduct a full audit of the sponsorship program to determine which federal Liberal riding associations received stolen funds and to clarify for Canadians who received the missing $43 million dollars.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:13 pm
It's about time.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Thank-you Harper government!!
This has been a long time coming.
Canadians need to know the truth.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Calling Peter Donolo, you're wanted in the OLO office……ha
November 1st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
It's about time. I'd also like to find out if the LPC debts to Elections Canada have been paid. That's more money from us taxpayer.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
HEEEEEE HAWWWW!!
The truth and nothing but the truth…..
November 1st, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Hip, hip, hooray and hallelujah!
Methinks the the OLO should be renamed the LOL: the Leader of the Opposition's Lair, LOL!!!!
It's high time our elected representatives were fully called to account on how and where they spend OUR money. The LPC and its leaders increasingly revealed a sense of entitlement, seeming to think that our hard-earned dollars were their personal cache to do with what they wanted, when they wanted, where they wanted, no questions asked — and, certainly, no questions answered.
Well, now it's answer time. What the auditor general finds will be very interesting, indeed. I imagine a few knees are quaking and a few stiff drinks are being downed. Time to face the music, boys. 'Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch …
November 1st, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Good luck with that…..
November 1st, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I'd rather the Tories pushed for conservative legislation then waste time and energy on this crap.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:34 pm
The Government of Canada is still pushing legislation thru,
and the AG can do her Adscam audit at the same time,
and the RCMP can keep investigating the theft of millions of taxpayer money in a liberal kickback scheme………
this is unfinished business!
November 1st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Great news unless of course you are Liberal. I am interested in the court case against Elections Canada getting every political party to pay their GST overpayment back.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
I don't think this kick in the groin for the latest smears by the Liberals will take up much time or energy.
I am confident Liberals were warned and the CPC have responded in fashion with substance vs silly political games.
Are the Liberals done messing with the CPC?
November 1st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I have been saying this for years. In fact,the day that the Gomery Inquiry was released,I was one of the first people on cbc-tv to call for the dissolution of the Quebec election results and to do it again. Years later and we still don't know who got the money. Meanwhile cbc has done 9 shows on Mulroney/Schrieber,yet hasn't spent an ounce of energy investigating a REAL scandal.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
There is so much Adscamery that has just not met with justice.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/groupaction/p...
November 1st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
It may be long overdue but strategically perfect timing.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I see the internal polls are showing Conservatives that Canadians are sick of their gross mishandling of H1N1 despite a year warning to get ready, sick of their pork favouratism, sick of them using taxpayer money to fund their campaign war chest, sick of them lying and preventing a legitimate inquiry into detainees, sick of their record setting spending and deficit without a plan, etc.
So what else to do but go DefCon1 – start talking about an issue that occurred a decade and a half ago, three prime ministers ago and 5 Liberal leaders ago.
Smacks of a sudden, and frankly very surprising, desperation.
Frankly, I didn't think the Liberal accusations were hitting home as much as they obviously are.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I'd like to see the Auditor General examine the $162 Million Taxpayer Dollars that a certain CSL benefited from…………………………………………
November 1st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
LMAO, “Liberal accusations were hitting home”……………………..more like swings and misses, talk about desperation.
The LPoC is ethically and morally bankrupt, they have absolutely no respect for democracy, even in their own party the Bloc Torontois Champaigne Sipping Socialist Elites simply cast aside the aspirations of the grass roots and alienating many of their supporters in the process.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Yep. Internal polling is so bad for the Conservatives Iffy had to fire two members of his staff. And all those polls from all the pollsters, including Donnello, are just outliers.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Were you so concerned when the ethics committee went after Brian after over 20 yrs.
And please link to info that the H1N1 was a potential problem over a year ago. The mishandling of said vaccine is all liberal faux outrage and media hype.
It does take time to manufacture said vaccine, test it, and get it out to the public. Perhaps it should have been tested on criminals first. Then, after Bennetts outrage, they had to start making another kind, thus delaying the first kind.
Perhaps if lawyers had not threatened so many malpractice suits for people unwilling to take responsibility for their life style, more manufacturers of vaccines would be around.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Before we get too excited, will this motion have to be passed by the committee before anything is done.
What if the libs/ndp/bloc vote against it. Wont be good for them. This and the gun registry vote. Who will vote against that.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
This could “make or break” the LPC. If Mikhail Igneutiev's beleaguered Liebral colleagues can dodge this one sufficiently, or even become scapegoats by “taking one for the team”, then the Party's miniscule integrity may yet survive to fight another day. If, however, the whole thing “blows up” in their collective faces, then the Canadian voting public will surely dismiss them as an entire body unworthy of any degree of trust. Canadians are demanding accountability, and it's pretty heady timing for PMSH to get the ball re-rolling on this one. In a case of magnitudinous and widespread conviction for the misappropriation of public funds, the Opposition would have to completely retool, which is likely what they should be doing anyway, to get away from this impatient thrust to regain power on the back of successively appointed unsuccessful saviours.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
I'm not sure what the NDP or the Bloc have to gain by voting against this motion.
It's the Liberal$ who used taxpayer dollars to fund their friends' businesses who, in turn, “donated” said monies back to the Liberal Party of Canada. Why wouldn't the NDP and the Bloc want to find out what happened to this money? After all, they're Canadians and it was their money too.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Hmmm, what can we do to change the channel… they're not really going for our tough-on-crime-bit – maybe talking about the sponsorship scandal will work…
November 1st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Apparently it is working, since it's forced you to come on here, assume a name that demeans your opponent, then issue Liberal party talking points du jour. Fascinating.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Internal polling on the issues, not voting intention. I.e. they see from the polling that they are incredibly vulnerable and remember how quickly Harper went from 25% and Martin from 39% to the reverse.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
M123T: Do you read the newspapers or watch the news? Or read anything on the internet?
I'll forgive you if you haven't been following the many medical reports, including from our own Public Health officials to Harper, warning of a coming outbreak as soon as the kids got back into school. But surely you must at least remember the thousands of Mexicans dying from swine flu last year and the worry then of a pandemic? The medical community has been very concerned about this for a year.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Who is desperate to change the channel? Harper.
Someone reminded me as well that next week or the week after, the Auditor General is going to be reporting on Harper's own eHealth scandal which blows McGuinty's out the door.
Time to start trying to change the channel now. If anyone knows how quickly the polls can flip around, it's Harper who was polling at 25% in September 2005 to Martin's 39%.
(And what the hell is this “all over the Liblogs and now on Blogging Tories” lie? Two comments on two separate blogs, here first and then one place elsewhere. First you want to tell parents what they should be worried about for their kids and now you are trying to tell parents where they are allowed to comment on the topic??? It took the Liberals 13 years to get this arrogant; you've managed it in 4 years. Well done.)
November 1st, 2009 at 6:04 pm
The Liberals have talking points all ready in response to Stephen Taylor's Sunday blog post? Wow. That's pretty efficient and quite the feather in Taylor's cap.
Can you let me know where I can find these talking points. I'd be very interested in reading them.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
What's the Lib talking point…Iffy was out of the counrty for 34 years, so he knows nothing, is responsible for nothing?
Iffy's just visiting.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Health is a provincial responsibility, not a federal one. Link to the thousands of mexicans dying of the swine flu. If the medical community has been so concerned why didn't they lobby their provincial ministers of health. Not PMSH fault. The media and liberals have hyped the hysteria instead of trying calm fears.
As for watching tv, Fox is my channel of choice, except when CSI is on.
School boards dropped the ball by not having a vaccination program, but I wonder how many parents would have said no on the permission slips. Probably the same ones now complaining.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:17 pm
All this time, I thought there were 12 Lib candidates that got stolen taxpayers money.
But,
Montreal Gazette reported there were 21.
National Post reported:
Corriveau and Beliveau, Jean Chretien's two closest Quebec campaign associates, were directly involved in the scheme to distribute as much as $300,000 cash to “orphan ridings” in the 1997 election. Marc-Yvan Cote, chief organizer of that campaign for eastern Quebec, distributed $120,000 of that cash to his 21 ridings.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:19 pm
MH, for a list of liberals elected before adscam and still there check out Crux Of The Matter for a complet list. She has done a fantastic job on this.
IMHO until all those are defeated or resign, the libs will always be remembered of the party that stole millions from the taxpayer. Donalo can't change that, but as Chretains head honcho, he probably knows where the bodies are buried. Will the motion pass the committee. Must watch cpac in the am.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:21 pm
So you have $300k going to 'orphan ridings';
almost half went to Cote to take care of 21 ridings…and the rest?
Will we be talking about alot more than Cote's ridings here?
November 1st, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Now? Because Liberals are bringing back the guys that were close to adscam. Might the Auditor General want to know what Donolo knew and when he knew it and what he did about it?
Maybe there was a reason that he was distancing himself from the party, and thought it was all forgotten.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Actually, the Bloc should be in favor of this motion, could help them in the next election.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:39 pm
$43 million, eh? That's about how much of our money the Conservatives have spent to their benefit on partisan advertising.
This is what the Liberals never understood: If you do it yourself, it's wrong. If you coerce civil servants to do it, it's okay.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:01 pm
So what's your point?
Mulroney was dragged over the coals, 30 years later, over $300K;
it's only 4 years since the first Gomery report,
and there's $43 Million still unaccounted for.
Did yah think we would forget?
Or would wait until the Cons had a majority to drag Liberal butts over a bed of nails?
No no, now is good,
a minority government where support from ONE other party is needed….
November 1st, 2009 at 7:05 pm
''The medical community has been very concerned about this for a year.''
but only 1/3 of Canadians said they wanted the shot,
now 49% say they do….
the panic Liberals and the media spawned will subside as everyone will have had their shot, that want one, by Christmas…but Adscam is unfinished business that will not go away.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Another Conservative who wants to blame the parents! Nice!
Vaccines are a federal responsibility. Assessing needs and placing the order is a federal responsibility. Getting the message out is a federal responsibility.
Which is why the country has been waiting for the feds to approve the vaccine, while every other country got their approvals 1 or 2 months ago.
Do provincial governments have some responsibility here? More than some. But not for vaccine shortages. There isn't enough vaccine to go around.
But the most important thing in all of this, as in everything, is that Stephen “Pass the Buck” Harper is blameless. Always. In everything. Someone wrote the other day that Harper passes the buck more than Sidney Crosby passes the puck and that's about right.
(And if this is the first time you've heard of swine flu then that really does say everything we need to know about how informed you and your opinion and your pssing the buck are.)
November 1st, 2009 at 7:20 pm
The federal ehealth was started in 2001…that would be Chretien,
''Auditor General Sheila Fraser first raised alarm bells about Infoway shortly after its creation, noting in an April 2002 report that the agency lacked ministerial oversight''
I have no doubt what so ever,
that this Conservative government has done better.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Right. The Liberals and the media's fault. As always. In everything.
'Cause it had nothing to do with three healthy kids dying from H1N1 within one week. Nothing at all. It's always the Liberals fault or the media's fault or both. It's their fault the vaccine wasn't ordered on time. It's their fault not enough vaccine was ordered. It's their fault the Conservatives spent $100 million on self-promotion instead of education on H1N1. It's their fault that the government stopped the already late order and got GSK to switch to make a different variant of the vaccine two weeks before the order was due, thereby causing further delays and disorganization and confusion. It. Is. Always. The. Liberals. Fault. Remember that.
And, remember too, most important of all, it's never ever ever Stephen “Pass the Buck” Harper's fault. In anything. Ever.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Speaking about regurgitating party talking points…
November 1st, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Liberals did both,
and were unapologetic for either…..
what's a few million, said Chretien.
If the LPC is found to owe the People of Canada $43 Million,
time to fold up that big, saggy, ripped and torn tent.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:46 pm
The court cases in Quebec are making headlines in Quebec. The CBC chooses to ignore real news for wafers, bodybags, logos and smears by the Liberals.
The CBC can continue to bury the “Bad” News showing MI less popular than Jack Layton. The Toronto Star can bury their “Polls” to page 6 when Liberals are placing behind the NDP.
The CPC are free to finish off the party of Adscam refusing to repay those millions. The Liberal friendly Media is free to look for a villian for H1N1. They can repeat the hysteria and panic again. The media can look for a scapegoat.
In the meantime the court cases will go on and the CPC will be pressing their advantage. This is not time to become a boy scout and let your opponent recover.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:57 pm
The pathetic polling numbers is the least of the problems for the Liberal Party.
The Liberals are so eager to get back into power that they keep pinning their hopes on the magic of one person to resuscitate the ailing party.
Like a desperate patient with a serious disease, they would rather resort to a sorcerer with a magic wand instead of following the proper – probably painful – therapy of conventional medicine.
The Liberal party is sick and the disease is serious. It has lost its status as the party of ideas and now is just the party of slogans. The Liberals have slogans about the environment, immigration, the economy and social justice but there is nothing behind them.
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/719021?bn=1
Real Liberals are honest and are abandoning the party hence the 25% numbers, 15% Job Approval rate. Beating records held since 1867 in lack of support?
The loss of 2,000 contributors from Q2 (maxed out?), drop in share of mind for contribution vs Dion 2008 numbers?
GST overpayment trial for all political parties?
Peter Donalo has his hands full, who else will he fired? WK for competing communication with Jill?
The staff should be contacting the LPOC for the next “LPOC survivor 2010-no one is cares “
November 1st, 2009 at 8:00 pm
First time I heard about swine flu was many years ago, and I remember a Johnny Carson skit, with Ed and his band leader, in pig masks with curly tails behind them, telling us all about it. It was big news back then. Do you think we would be better off if untested vaccine has been used. Would you rather live virus vaccine be used, as is happening in the states.
Thousands of orders were placed, but it takes time to manufacture them. Just because something is ordered, requested or whatever, doesn't mean it will happen. Like, I order you to quit trolling and accept that the PM is doing a great job. Bet you don't obey.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Link please of “thousands of dying in Mexico from H1N1.
http://healthblog.ctv.ca/post/Health-officials-...
April 2009 “We have just frightened everyone that catastrophe is imminent and yet no one is actually looking at the disease.”
Compared to the deaths caused by seasonal flu this year, swine flu is considerably less dangerous.
According to a recent U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's weekly report, more than 13,000 Americans have died from seasonal flu in 2009 alone.
The worldwide total for seasonal flu related deaths is generally between 250,000 and 500,000 a year.
Rau says that there is much debate in the scientific community about if swine flu should be considered a pandemic virus or just a new virus.
He expects the WHO will increase their pandemic level to Phase 6, but cautioned people about overreacting.
Nick Bontis, a strategy expert from the DeGroote School of Business at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ont., said people are being hammered by the WHO alerts and wall-to-wall media reports — and that it all amounts to harmful and needless fear mongering.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTV...
November 1st, 2009 at 8:06 pm
So far no autopsy has proved cause of death, and parents don't want one. When it takes weeks for tests to verify if one has the H1N1 as labs are so far behind, they are not testing here anymore, don't jump to conclusions. And that is the truth, as told to a mother, with a sick child. But, without tests to verify, we are told there is one verified case here. How do they know.
Fortunately my friends child is back in school.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Link please.
Six Million doses shipped. 20% over the estimated high priority supply.
Delivery is a Provincial , Territorial Responsibility. If mistakes are being made and people are being confused look in the mirror, media, opposition parties for the hysteria.
No data H1N1 is more deadly than Seasonal Flu.
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/ctvs-question-period/n...
Media highlight 2 deaths in “teens” repeatedly. Long lines and a drop in shipment causing a shortage.
Canada is again leading the world in per capita vs ANY country in delivery.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:11 pm
This is good news. Hopefully the resoltion will pass and the Auditor General will take up the challenge. However, I suspect because most of the dealings were in cash it will be difficult to trace whethe the money ultimately ended up. Here's hoping.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Yes the Liberals are playing games and blaming the government. The fact the Liberals are asking questions and creating confusion instead of helping.
The information and updates are discussed in committee. The rhetorical questions in HOC and fearmongering by the Liberals are only adding to the confusion.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Harper has left the country because the Liberals are broken. He has ZERO fear of the party. They have been broken again worse than Dion this time.
MI cancelled his trip to China, Harvard. MI is afraid Bob Rae will take his job. He has been seen lately visiting soup kitchens and Daycares working on his adult conversation and looking for some friendly faces.
Still no luck. Even kids looking for candy were not interested in visiting MI on Halloween.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Do you have a court case, AG report, Ethics report to back up your question?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
This is a no win for the opposition to vote to protect their coalition partner. If the NDP or Bloc go to the defence of the Liberals than the CPC will be given another weapon to use in the next campaign.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:20 pm
“I see the internal polls”
Polls matter now?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Studies show the Liberals are still wearing ADSCAM. Some remaining Liberals can't comprehend the damage to their brand.
http://www.newmajority.com/the-four-stages-of-a...
The damage wrought by the sponsorship scandal was not confined to the 2004 election. In
2006, the probability of voting Liberal was 35 points lower among voters who were very angry
about the scandal, believed that there had been a lot of corruption under the Chrétien Liberals,
judged Martin’s handling of the scandal negatively and lacked confidence in his ability to
prevent future scandals. This was even stronger than the effect registered in 2004, but luckily for the Liberals, judgments were not as harsh as they had been two years earlier. Still, but for the scandal, the Liberal vote would have been over three points higher in 2006, enough to make thedifference between a bare plurality and defeat. (Page 10)
http://ces-eec.mcgill.ca/documents/Anatomy%20of...
Adscam is now back in the news!
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2009/10...
http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews...
Corbeil says he will reveal who profited from the scam, suggesting more names will come out in connection with the scandal that helped to bring down Paul Martin's minority Liberal government in 2006.
http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews...
November 1st, 2009 at 8:39 pm
It won't help the website is is Latin.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:53 pm
What is the source of your information?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:57 pm
LMAO
November 1st, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Are you still using Windows 3.1? Ever heard of multitasking?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Ummm – maybe because Quebec is the last region in Quebec where the Liberals have a chance of holding seats – and even that is slipping away. This will be the final nail in the coffin for Iggy.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:01 pm
And the winner is…. wait for it…. wait for it…. WILSON via TKO of oldschoolliberal
November 1st, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Which is why Iggy has been so busy attacking the Cons on this for over a year??? Oh wait – he hasn't been. What has he been doing? Nothing like hindsight eh? Liberals make great armchair governments. Fortunately, that is exactly what they will be doing for the foreseeable future
November 1st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
“Right. The Liberals and the media's fault. As always. In everything.”
But it is just fine for you to blame Harper for everything right?
November 1st, 2009 at 9:05 pm
“Who is desperate to change the channel? Harper.”
Have you seen the latest polls. I don't think “desperate” is an accurate assessment of the situation. But based on your drivel here I'm guessing accurate assessments aren't your strong suit.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:14 pm
OSL (Parnel) You asked if M123T reads much what is your excuse for making things up?
INDEPTH: SARS
SARS Cases
CBC News Online | Updated October 7, 2003
Cumulative SARS Cases as of September 26, 2003 (World Health Organization):
Cases worldwide (cumulative): 8,098 (includes deaths)
Total number of deaths: 774 (includes 44 in Canada)
*Current case definitions (according to Health Canada):
Suspect
“A person who fits into one of the following two categories:
1) a person who develops fever and one or more respiratory symptoms, including cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, within 10 days of returning from travel to areas in Asia where SARS cases are being reported; or
2) a person who develops fever and one or more respiratory symptoms, including cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, within 10 days of having had close contact with a “probable” case of SARS.”
Probable
“A person meeting the suspect case definition together with severe progressive respiratory illness suggestive of atypical pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome with no known cause.
OR
A person meeting the suspect case definition with an unexplained acute respiratory illness resulting in death, with an autopsy examination demonstrating the pathology of acute respiratory distress syndrome with no known cause.”
Source: World Health Organization, Health Canada and Ontario Ministry of Health
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/sars/cases.html
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:52 am
1) Is there value for money?
2) Are Conservative hacks getting rich off of doing no work of real value for said ad dollars?
From what I hear, the $60 million spent by Conservatives is good value for money
a) To wrap a train car for a month costs less than two days advertising in the Toronto Star
b) Lots more ad impressions
Advertising is necessary in the stimulus program because it boosts consumer confidence which is a causitive factor in an economy's recovery.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:56 am
You can see the National Director of the Liberal Party respond here:
http://twitter.com/liberalrocco/status/5347342902
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 am
Ah, but remember: the truth if necessary but not necessarily the truth. LOL.
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 am
But, of course, thanks for the former LPC government, our health care system is ill-equipped to handle the situation.
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 am
My goodness, Parnel/Terry – don't you have anything better to do?
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 am
Call it what you will but the Liberals stole Canadian taxpayer money to help win elections in Quebec. Gomery could not track down some $40 million and there were ridings in Quebec that benefited and we should know who they were and if any of the people involved in those ridings are still involved in the party or worse still a sitting MP who used tainted money to get elected. The government has an obligation to protect taxpayers money whether the Liberal party likes it or not.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 am
Just like Liberals who wanted to keep talking about Mulroney when it was 20 years ago. Talk about hypocrisy.
Mishandling H1N1. Sure use a pandemic to try to get some partisan advantage. The Libs and the media have created hysteria in the public causing thousands of otherwise healthy Canadians to think they need the shot when in fact they are not in any danger. If you think that 32 million people can be immunized without long line ups and if you think we can manufacture healthcare workers to administer the shots then you truly live in a Liberal la la land.
The rest of your comments are pure spin. Canadians have lost faith in the Liberal party and its feckless leader.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 am
Iggy was looking for a game changer, Motion on Adscam to be moved- That's a game changer.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:42 am
Strategy, ma man, smear the thieving liberals. Stop Boob Rae's fear mongering of innocent Canadians. Rae & Ignatieff should be ashamed of themselves.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:01 am
The word accountability and Tories don't mesh in the same sentence. Harper has used that word to hide his own dictator ambitions.
Where's the accountability on everything he promised………….hidden and controlled by his office is where. So to suddenly demand accountability for adscam while hiding his own scams is pretty damn hypocritical.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:03 am
Yep cover up your won sins by attacking the other guys and we all pay through the nose. What a stupid remark.
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 am
Thieving Liberals, thieving Liberals, thieving Liberals; Adscam was not an accident, Liberals consciously stole from innocent Canadians, now that is stupid!
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
This Conservative government has proven that it has a hard time governing. Instead of focusing on Unemployment Insurance reform, infrastructure spending, dispensing H1N1 vaccinations, and “stimulating the economy”…the governing party instead have begun attacking Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to distract the Canadian public from the Conservative Party's mismanagement of state affairs.
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
Oh! And make sure they revisit the flow-through advertising dollars that the Conservatives used to overspend on elections!
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
Recently I was wondering the same thing. Where did this money go and who benefited from it? The Liberal party should be kept from forming a government for decades because of this.
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:44 am
Or it has come to the point where the Liberals have been given 4 years to clean up but persist in bringing back the people that were neck deep in the adscam fiasco.
When Mulroney's dirty laundry was out for all to see the CPC clearly cut ties with all and sundry that were associated with the wrong doings.
I do not think that the Liberals have taken the steps required to fix or distance the party from the larger scandal of directly stealing money from the tax-payers. How many current Liberal MPs were in caucus when adscam was being carried out.
Now how many have left or demanded that their crooked colleagues are exorcised from the party.
The Liberals seems only too happy to have the people on whose watch this occurred…. Kinsella , Donolo along with every Quebec MP except Garneau and Trudeau.
They had their chance to clean up the but have decided to wait for Auditor General Fraser to do it for them in full view of all of Canada.
So it may seem to be politically opportunism but the Liberals left the festering scab to be picked.
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:57 am
BC VOICE OF REASON??………….bein reduced to two seats is what casued the ultomate mulroney housecleaning. one must also acknowledge that Gomery did not single out any Liberal MP's or officers per se as being knowingly involved in adscam.
adscam was basically an organized criminal attempt to steal money. And it wasn't the federal liberal party that was implicated, just some rogue so called members of the party.
In any event Harper and his cronies must be really concerned about their own ethics and honesty if they are still trying build their careers on that one issue. It sure looks like a cover up to me and I think I will be proven correct in my assessment.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
There are so many questions left unanswered as Mr Cretin continues to haul in his awards.
How is it that that the scheme was so intricate and seemed to require coordination and cooperation on so many levels, yet no one at senior levels on the inside knew?
Who were the MP's that received the cash in brown envelopes?
Are any of them sitting MP's?
Did the other MP's know?
Where is the $43 MM and when can we expect it back?
Does anyone else feel like the public / taxpayer is being stonewalled for answers we deserve here?
I think a full public inquiry is the only option to resolving each of these issues. I think we need to understand how deeply this issue ran through the Liberal party and who was responsible.
I think every Canadian deserves these answers
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
I guess you missed the part of the complaint being that it is partisan advertising.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Yeah. would help to pay down the difficit, which the Libs pushed us into.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:29 am
Did you really think the CBC would. The CBC is the biggest Liberal Propaganda Machine on the plant.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Ripples you can't be serious? I would bet that every Liberal MP from Quebec and the whole organization knew about it. It's just difficult to proof.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:42 am
Old School Lib. Yes, right can't you just hear the howling if the Feds had told the Provinces how to handle the Problem. Besides it was Mr Chretien who signed an iron clad contract with Glaxo in received a 50000 $ dollar donation for the Party in return. Do you really think you can cancel an iron clad multimillion dollar contract without paying for it? In fact I suspect that some of the Provinces deliberately made a mess out of it so they Liberanos could blame the CP in the House. It certainly looks that way in Ottawa.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:56 am
No Parents are not stupid but are being panicked by the Media .
November 7th, 2009 at 1:09 am
And Mr. Chretien knew nothing about it. Yea, right.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
I suggest the value paid to the printing companies be investigated thoroughly. Odds are any printing invoices are inflated. Then check their breakdowns of companies owned and further subcontracts. Take a look at their campaign contributions.
Gomery should go much further. Any tampering or missing records, then participating companies should be blacklisted from gov contracts including upper management on a personal named basis, if no legal charges can be applied.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
The conservatives may be battling the inside problems the liberals have left them such as this sample itself. We hope that this is the reason Harper “appears” to be hiding on a lot of problems. So many issues that affect the flow of government have already been undermined. He has a maze to clean up to even get systems working with any accountability.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:39 am
First and foremost lets get to all the documents that Cdn Press is trying to get from the tories re Paradis eh, bet that may shock you, it seems it may make the Liberal scandal seem small, lets see, you have to wait a little longer as they can only release a few pages at a time, maybe by 2020 they may have them all, hang on these are my views only!!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 11:39 am
First and foremost lets get to all the documents that Cdn Press is trying to get from the tories re Paradis eh, bet that may shock you, it seems it may make the Liberal scandal seem small, lets see, you have to wait a little longer as they can only release a few pages at a time, maybe by 2020 they may have them all, hang on these are my views only!!!!