HAVE THE HARPER REFORMERS NOW BECOME WHAT THEY PROMISED TO DESTROY?

These are actual headlines taken from news stories. Not editorials or commentary pieces – news stories. These headlines reflect what has been written about the Reform-Conservative “government” in recent days.

Do they have an ethics problem? Absolutely. Are they corrupt?

More and more – and just based on the news – it sure looks that way.

• Tory Senator on payroll of company that won infrastructure contract
• Tories spent $108,000 on one-hour event
• Tory cheque scandal not quieting down
• Two probes to focus on Raitt
• Design of novelty cheques left Tory MP feeling 'queasy'
• Government website links to Harper piano video
• 200 photos add fuel to Tory 'cheque' scandal
HAVE THE HARPER REFORMERS NOW BECOME WHAT THEY PROMISED TO DESTROY?


These are actual headlines taken from news stories. Not editorials or commentary pieces – news stories. These headlines reflect what has been written about the Reform-Conservative “government” in recent days.

Do they have an ethics problem? Absolutely. Are they corrupt?

More and more – and just based on the news – it sure looks that way.

• Tory Senator on payroll of company that won infrastructure contract
• Tories spent $108,000 on one-hour event
• Tory cheque scandal not quieting down
• Two probes to focus on Raitt
• Design of novelty cheques left Tory MP feeling 'queasy'
• Government website links to Harper piano video
• 200 photos add fuel to Tory 'cheque' scandal

Why didn't you provide a link and the, "so called", writers name with each headline?

Could it be that they're the same old Liberal cheerleaders from the same old MSM sources?

The LPC is falling down, falling down, falling down....................................

Duplicate

Here's a list of announced projects, individual and by region or city;

http://www.actionplan.gc.ca/RSSFeeds/news/News_...

Parsmell thinks the money is being wasted, maybe he should tell that to someone who shares his delusion.

That's not what was asked, feces thrower. The reporter had asked for a complete list of projects and was denied. The inference is that lists are no one's business but the PMO and it was none of the public's business.

Employment increased for the second consecutive month, up 31,000 in September, driven by large full-time gains. The unemployment rate fell by 0.3 percentage points to 8.4%, the first monthly decline since the beginning of the labour market downturn in the fall of 2008.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/subjects-sujets/labour...

Your sad attempt to change the page is a tad late and a dollar short. Give it up or continue to look dumb




-----Original Message-----

Too bad that the Leftist Mental Disorder prevents you from seeing reality, scandals everywhere, right is left, up is down.

You'll be flinging feces at that wet wall for a very long time indeed.

Soft inflation' in September data
That's good news, analysts say, because it will keep central bank `very comfortable' with low rate policy

http://www.thestar.com/business/article/711705-...

Another example of how harpo and his thugs abuse Canadians and is pretty major in term sof the credibilty gap created by this group of complete incompetents. Note that the author basically says the reformatories are so screwed up they probably don't even have a list of projcts available to hand out. He also said that harpo lies :

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/andrew-ste...


But the Conservative response consists exclusively of three types of falacies:

1. Ad hominem attacks (attacking the man saying the charge, not the charge itself). An example would be Transport Minister John Baird's empty retort that the Liberals are "up to political mischief."

2. Hasty generalizations. The best example is the Conservative response on the day Mr. Kennedy issued his report, in which they countered that the single example of the site where the announcement took place was not scheduled to begin immediately. Partially rebutting a single element of a thousand point charge does not address the charge.

3. Fallacies of exclusion. The Prime Minister's argument this week stands out as the best example of that.

Basically, in his statement, the Prime Minister was knowingly attempting to have the listener draw a false conclusion by presenting a purposely-crafted and biased data set as representative of the entire set.

In doing so, he was taking Canadians for fools.

Considering the recent cheque logo shenanegans and the confirmation from a nominated CPC candidate that stimulus follows party, the Prime Minister needs to address this charge four-square or risk a major scandal that will not only injure his reputation, but risk the recovery by possibly slowing the pace of project funding.

On the policy side, remaining funds should simply be flowed to municipalities to distribute as needed. This is by far the fastest, and most transparent, way to launch infrastructure quickly.

Rhetorically, the Conservatives have a major advantage in rebuttal. They are the government and control the actual list of where contracts went. Simply releasing the full list should address the charge.

Of course, for that to happen, two other things must be true:

1. They must actually have such a list. (Judging from Parliamentary Budget Officer's report into the "uneven," "inconsistent" and "missing" record keeping in the multi-billion dollar stimulus spend, it is actually possible the government does not know where the money went.)

2. They must be spending the money fairly and wisely, distributing it efficiently and relatively evenly across Canada.

Don't hold your breath.

I am beginning to suspect we will only see the full list of projects in the appendix of an Auditor-General's report years from now, if ever.

Good economic news is what the majority of Canadians appreciates hearing;

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082...

Employment in Canada rose last month six times more than forecast, unexpectedly reducing the jobless rate to 8.4 percent, the government said on Oct. 9. Service industries in the U.S., the nation’s biggest trade partner, expanded in September for the first time in a year, an Institute for Supply Management index showed on Oct. 5. U.S. retail sales excluding automobiles climbed 0.5 percent last month, more than forecast, the Commerce Department said on Oct. 14.

Parity Probability

The probability that the Canadian currency will trade at C$1 per U.S. dollar at year-end is 60 percent, according to implied volatility from options trading monitored by Bloomberg. The chance of parity in one month is 42 percent, trading shows.

Are you that desperate?

You don't like good news?

The jobless rate dropping to 8.4%

Watching the Liberals is like watching monkeys in a cage ceaselessly throwing feces at a wet wall all the while desperately hoping that something will stick.

Desperately trying to change the channel away from the good economic news.

That Parsmell is desperation.

So how are those poll numbers?

Ya, didn't think so...........................................

$150BB in money that will literally pissed away at our expense is not good news. The unemployment rate will soar with winter to over 10% and will stay there until next summer. I would rather believe the private economists who tell the truth.

Watching you in action trying to sound intelligent makes watching the monkeys much more fun. At least they do know what they are doing.

How's that ball game going?

The poll numbers are fine as long as there is no election call. They will change as the crooked Tories implode.

When will you implode and leave the mature debates to intelligent human beings?

Funny how the troll likes to leave things out and provide no link;

http://www.canadaeast.com/news/article/828022

Housakos said in an interview he was never an employee of BPR proper, but rather of its wholly-owned subsidiary TerrEau, and never made any representations to government officials about BPR business.

"I never made any representations to any minister, any bureaucrat, to anyone in government on behalf of BPR at any time," Housakos said.

Senate Ethics Officer Jean Fournier, speaking in general about the Senate Conflict of Interest Code, said he advises senators not to have any contact with federal officials or federal ministers relating to contracts. He also asks senators to clear any matters relating to federal contracts with his office.

Housakos said he couldn't have advised Fournier that BPR was bidding on the Champlain Bridge contract because he didn't know about it. He said he told Fournier all about the nature of his employment at TerrEau and was told there were no problems.

The stench is clear and this guy will be proven to be a liar. After all he is a reformatory type.

It would do you good to get out of your mommy's basement and get some fresh air Parsmell.

And grab a shower.........................ooh ooh that smell. Can't you smell that smell? The smell of left is around you...................

Mr. Taylor, thanks for this forum, it's always entertaining and interesting.

It's too bad that Parnel has a penchant for bringing every discussion down to the lowest denominator, but it is also instructive as to how the Liberal Leftist mind perceives things.

Cheers

So after getting your knuckles rapped you decide to get humble...phony stuff!!

Here's another admission of guilt:
http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2009/10/conserv...
Sunday, October 18, 2009
Conservative web elves busy again
Social media links last night on actionplan.gc.ca, if you clicked on any of them, would lead you to this picture:



See what you made them do, Steve...:) You made the minions work all weekend. Hope they're getting time and a half for all this midnight oil in cleaning up the mess.

My guess, they'll be all fixed up nicely by some time today. No more link love for the piano playing Prime Minister.

What can they do, they've been caught out and embarrassingly so.

I don't think they're quite finished in cleaning up the partisan excess on the site though...

Posted by Impolitical at 10/18/2009 07:00:00 AM Recommend this Post at Progressive Bloggers

Labels: conservative advertisements, ethics, ethics commissioner, partisan advertising

Pathetic isn't the word, quoting a Liblog site, way too funny and reeking of delusion.

Liblogs get it right and are not censored by a party central war room like certain other blogs we know.

Here you go boys and girls, the sleaze that never stops giving.(I wonder who screwed up in the censorship dept. of the PMO to let that news out)

Bruce Cheadle

Ottawa — The Canadian Press
Published on Sunday, Oct. 18, 2009 3:52PM EDT

Last updated on Sunday, Oct. 18, 2009 5:29PM EDT


The Harper government spent over $100,000 staging a one-hour event in June to deliver an update on its efforts to help the recession-ravaged economy.

Invoices obtained by The Canadian Press through the Access to Information Act show a nominal bill to taxpayers of $108,000 for the carefully scripted “town hall” meeting in Cambridge, Ont.

The June 11 event turned what the opposition Liberals had hoped would be an uncomfortable exercise in government transparency into a slick campaign-style rally for Conservative party faithful.

Critics say it's just the latest example of what they're calling a Tory penchant for leveraging public money for partisan gain.

“It fits in with a whole pattern with this government where they are basically using tax dollars to promote themselves to voters,” said Gerry Nicholls of the right-wing web portal Libertaspost.com.

“That's clearly wrong. It's clearly a waste of tax dollars.”

These town halls cost dollars to put on, mainly the security component and Nichol's? Well his opinion is certainly not shared by as many as he would lead himself to believe.

And Bruce Cheadle? Another real prize effort.

And you think anyone will believe your garbage. It's not even recyclable because of the toxicity.

If clue were shoes............how is your upholstered view room? Warm enough?

It has central heat,a 50 inch TV in it and a full wine fridge.....how's your single wide hovel with the jos louis and pepsi and the 21 inch B&W tv. ?

Get real or get lost.

So we can establish from that that you live in a room?

In mommy's basement?

I'm afraid that you're the one who is lost, what's the matter?

The birdies eat your breadcrumb trail?

I knew you'd ask....it's actually an addition to my house and has the hot tub nearby as well as the family office. It is actually over 800 sq.ft. sorry to disappoint you.

Tory sleaze is breaking out all over:

Tory Senator on payroll of company that won infrastructure contract

Jennifer Ditchburn
Published: Today
OTTAWA - A Montreal firm landed a federal stimulus contract while a top Tory organizer and senator was on the payroll, The Canadian Press has learned.

Senator Leo Housakos's employer, BPR Inc., was part of a consortium that won a $1.4-million engineering contract to study the future of Montreal's aging Champlain Bridge.

Public Works Minister Christian Paradis announced $212 million in funding for the bridge - and a competition for the engineering contract - on May 20, the same day Housakos was stage-managing a major Conservative fundraiser in Montreal.

The Canadian Press obtained a copy of the guest list for one of the special VIP receptions that was held just before the main fundraising event.

The 48-person list included four senior executives from BPR and the winning consortium, BCDE.

BPR president Pierre Lavallee is registered as having donated $250 to the Conservative party eight days after the event.

Also on the guest list for the special reception were two officials from the federal authority that runs the bridge, Paul Kefalas and Serge Martel. Kefalas had formerly worked at Swiss multinational ABB, and had given work to a small consulting company Housakos co-founded.

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http://laforet.ca/2009/10/13/ignatieffs-clean-e...

Ignatieff’s ‘Clean Energy’ Proposal Bad Politics and Bad Policy

by John Laforet
posted on October 13th, 2009 at 22:05:19 pm

I am a former federal Liberal Riding President, and have largely distanced myself on matters of federal politics since leaving that position out of respect to those I worked with, but this I felt required comment. I hope it will not require much more action that writing a letter to the Leader of the Liberal Party to correct his facts.

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff’s speech to the Vancouver Board of Trade demonstrated a staggering ignorance on the ‘clean energy’ file. His speech today demonstrated a total lack of understanding of this division of power. What’s more, he incorrectly accused Canada of not being a green energy leader. We are. Hydroelectricity represents 88% of the world’s installed renewable energy source. Canada is second only to China in the production of hydroelectric power, and is forth in the world for use of hydroelectricity as a percentage of supply.

Ottawa Citizen April 2009;

Despite leader Michael Ignatieff’s vow that his party would no longer sit on its hands during votes in Parliament, Liberal MPs have missed three times as many votes in the House of Commons as Conservative members so far this year.

The average Liberal MP did not participate in about 12 per cent of the recorded votes on bills and motions in the House of Commons since the parliamentary session began in January, compared to Tory MPs, who on average skipped four per cent, a Citizen analysis shows.

The Liberals posted the worst record for voting of the four parties in the House, standing to be counted fewer times on average than even Bloc Québécois MPs.

And when Liberal MPs did show up, they voted the same way as the Conservatives 79 per cent of the time...

http://news.therecord.com/News/BreakingNews/art...

Ignatieff’s comments were in response to a question from Cambridge business leader John Bell, who wanted to known when the federal debt will be paid back.
“We will have to raise taxes,” but not at the expense of hurting the recovery from this recession. He added that “an honest politician” cannot exclude a tax hike as an option.

A little history for the useless delusional feces throwing Liberal monkey troll;

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/545220

Instead, Harper proposed billions in spending cuts, the suspension of the right of public servants to strike, pay equity changes, and a small but significant reduction of public funding for political parties.

Angered over the lack of an overarching spending package to kickstart the sluggish economy, the Opposition parties cried foul.

Now the Liberals say they will introduce a motion of non-confidence in the government.

NDP Leader Jack Layton and Stephane Dion have discussed "roles and responsibilities” in a new coalition, an NDP official confirmed.

It is expected that Layton would have a place in the new cabinet, and “various players would play different roles,” the official said.

Liberal finance critic John McCallum said a new government would roll out a stimulus package that was "a whole lot faster and a whole lot bigger than anything they would provide.”

NDP at the last vote said that they have no confidence in the government yet they have confidence in the government to pass a bill so that the government they say they have no confidence in doing the people job, do have confidence in government to deliver.

Sounds like Ignatieff to me 'we have no confidence in government yet we have confidence.

I have no confidence what so ever in Ignatieff when he said to all canadians "I have no intentions of wearing the recession on my shoulders"
Imagine that!! Yet he gives orders, insults the government for doing their job(that's corret 'doing' their job) while he Ignatieff disappeared with his media in tow.

Jen, and I have no confidence in the reformatories who will make us pay for their prolific waste over the next generation or two. These guys are crooks.

Parnel-Terry1, Ti-Guy

are the official "bedwetters" for the Liberal Party.

Give then any topic and they will parrot it without fail.

When Liberals promise to repeal the laws of gravity, these bedwetters will provide proof how they will do it.

I suspect JC was holding the "cojones" on display and took them when he left. The shell left called the Liberal Party has been looking for the "golf balls" ever since.

Caandian nonsense....And what are you besides the crackpot of Oakville. You ahve been kicked off numerous blogs and BB's for your insidous stupidity on everything political.

Terry, you're about to get kicked off of this one if you don't stop personal insults

"are the official "bedwetters" for the Liberal Party."

The above is ok but the response is not?

Get real Stephen and look at the post above mine.

I take a lot of shots here that I note you do not address. Be fair and equal to all at least

Worry about yourself first. Bad behaviour doesn't justify other bad behaviour.

Clean it up and I'll clean up the rest.

Stephen - I have some significant difficulty on this isue regarding the cheques. Whether or not the Liberals are in a glass house throwin stones I think is beside the point. Because the accuser is a cheat doesn't mean what we're doing is right. I would like the PM to take the lead and say, "we will not use public funding as a media opportunity, ever. We will table legislation and dare the Liberals to oppose us."

That would be leadership.

Roblaw, the point of all this is that Harpo the magnificent has already passed an accountability law and doesn't abide by it. In fact one NP columnist said he has gone one better than the Liberals and fine tuned the patronage game and all its accoutrements. He has doled out money like a socialist and yet all these arrogant fans of his think he's still a conservative. I think he's simply an opportunist trying to hold onto his job and will do whatever he needs to, ethical or not, honest or not and truthful or not to survive.

here are some more articles on the check stuff from various newspapers, and tory MP's, across the Country:
It looks like Kinsella ha sbeen able to create another shite storm for the refomatories:

"That didn't look like a government cheque to me. I would preferred it looked like a government cheque." (Conservative MP Royal Galipeau, Ottawa Citizen, October 17, 2009)

"I can see the reasons why other attributes to the MP on the big cheque are also wrong." (Conservative MP Bruce Stanton, Twitter, October 16, 2009)

"You won`t see any such references on big cheques here in the future." (Conservative MP Bruce Stanton, Twitter, October 16, 2009)

"LE MOT ETHIQUE NE VEUT RIEN DIRE AU PC" (Le Devoir, 17 octobre 2009)

"That promise is what got the prime minister elected, and he is now declining to provide the most basic kind of accountability. He won’t let the people who pay his bills – such as me – see how he is spending our money. It’s disgraceful and deserves to be denounced as such." (Stephen Maher, Chronicle Herald, October 17, 2009)

"The party logo is not even the most distasteful aspect of these so-called cheques. Rather, it is the suggestion that the cheques are coming from Conservative MPs themselves, rather than from the government of Canada." (Toronto Star Editorial, October 17, 2009)

"On dit toujours qu'un gouvernement se bat lui-même, l'opposition n'ayant qu'à recueillir le fruit lorsqu'il est mûr. Remarquez que les conservateurs travaillent vaillamment ces temps-ci à se tirer dans le pied et violent toutes les règles de l'éthique en signant des chèques en bois partisans pour des infrastructures.” (BRAVO, LES LIBÉRAUX S’ORIENTENT, Raymond Giroux, Le Soleil, 17 octobre 2009)

"What this tells us is that the government has turned billions of stimulus dollars into a political pork-barrel aimed at shoring up party support in dribs and drabs across the country rather than focus on fewer strategic infrastructure investments that would pay higher economic dividends in future years." (Toronto Star Editorial, October 17, 2009)

"Ce nouvelle controverse s'ajoute à celle concernant l'utilisation, par de nombreux députés et ministres conservateurs, de chèques personnalisés ou abordant le logo du parti lors d'annonces de financement public… Le site est administré par le Bureau du Conseil privé, qui épaule de manière impartiale, le bureau du premier ministre. Des sources ont révélé à La Presse Canadienne que des fonctionnaires hésitaient à s'occuper du site et avaient soulevé leurs préoccupations quant à sa nature partisane." (HARPER MOUSSE SES TALENTS DE PIANISTE, Le Journal de Montreal, 17 octobre 2009)

"This government spends heavily on promoting itself. Canadians have become accustomed to TV ads presenting its economic program as a Conservative good deed, paid for with taxes that could have been put to better use elsewhere. When Conservative MPs hand over money, they not only put their own name on the cheque, the do their best to prevent MPs from any other party showing up to share in the credit." (National Post Editorial, October 17, 2009)

"HARPER REVIVES CHEQUEBOOK POLITICS" (Edmonton Journal October 17, 2009)

"Canadians have good reason to look askance at the partisan self-promotion efforts of Mr. Keddy and others that cross at least an ethical line by turning taxpayer-funded stimulus spending to crass political advantage." (StarPhoenix Editorial, October 17, 2009)

"They're political ploys. They suggest individual Conservatives as well as the party are coming up with the stimulus money. They make it harder for Canadians to distinguish between a legitimate public program being implemented by the Government of Canada and the private activities of the Conservative party." (Waterloo Region Record Editorial, October 16, 2009)

Need I say more about the next split on the right:

While Ms. Smith may be new to provincial politics, she has already gained the support of Alberta's conservative elite, including Tom Flanagan, the University of Calgary political scientist who helped to groom Stephen Harper for the Prime Minister's Office. Her campaign also received help from Rob Griffith, a well-known Harper campaign organizer.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/da...

That's because the current, Alberta Progressive Conservatives have become LIBERALS and western Canadians, really dislike LIBERALS. Really, really dislike, LIBERALS.

Ah yes the ignorance continues to shine through.....it was only some 15 years ago the whole country disliked conservatives enough to reduce them to 2 seats. harpo will take them there again becasue he will soon be rejected in Alberta as the Wild Rose movement grows. You should also note it was conservatives who created the BQ. Harpor cannot continue his chameleon existence for too much longer.

Don't yell too loudly, the track the Liberals are on they could very well end up wiped out.

The BQ became stronger thanks to ADSCAM, that obscene black mark on Canadian politics enabled in an effort by the Chretien government to buy their votes.

Liz J hysterical...even your memory fades when you think of the dark days of Muldoon. Bouchrad left the PC's and started the Bloc as a result of Meech Lake. They won approx. 35 seats in the 93 election and if your memory serves itself you will note they were the official opposition.

You can bring up adscam all you want and blame ww.3 on it if you wish but facts are facts and you seem to miss most of them.

Yep, facts are facts. Adscam is Adscam. We will keep talking about it because the courts are still dealing with it, the money tossed to the wind has never been recovered. It ain't over, even big fish can get caught when the nets are cast but it takes time.

The way the Liberals are going we just might have the Bloc as Official Opposition again.

Liz J hysterical, The in and out trial is yet to have its day, so your smugness will go away soon enough and you will be trying to bury that. Adscam happened and Quebeckers , and most others, have forgotten about it. Its only tired old angry reformatories who live in the past that keep it up. We can bring up lyin brian accepting money from the scum bag German and it can go on and on. Harpo is the current government and he si robbing us blind and stealing our kids futures. His major scandals are just around the corner.

and by the way, no liberal MP or former cabinet minister is involved in any court cass and gomery said there was no crooked stuff from them. Keep those bitter hopes up and maybe some ghost will surprise you.

So that's why Gomery said that the Liberal Party is "criminally organized"?

Brown paper bags stuffed with cash passed under restaurant tables Eh?

Parsmell is just another useless delusional feces throwing Liberal monkey troll suffering from an extreme form of Leftist Mental Disorder who is a danger to himself and should be locked up in an upholstered room with a view.

Brucey, the amount of sleaze coming from your favorite crook has you doing handstands to cover up your support for him. Must be disappointing to finally be aware you support a crook, a liar and a socialist, speaking of delusional.

Now PO back to your hovel you ant.

Cover up your support for him? Are you kidding?

You are too far gone Parsmell, there is no hope for you to recover from your affliction.

Really and truely Bruce, let stephen taylor deal with the three faces of Terry.

Now, can you imagine if the LPOC had not stolen from the public; can you imagine all that money that suppose to have gone into: infrastruction, healthcare, military, education, transfer of payments to provinces instead of into the LPOC. Can you imagine what the deficit would have been today had the liberals paid. The military poor souls were reduced to nothing their equipments clothing etc were not up to par except for a few planes given to them by paul martin that's all.
Can you imagine the bulk of money this prime minister has to turn around to pay where the liberals should have attended too years. Can you imagine having a decent national media that spoke for canadians instead of campaigning for the liberal party of canada.
Can you envision the liberals going on television to accuse this prime minister for the very job they themselves(liberals) failed and can you envision the national media for canadians hammering at the LPOC on their own mess.

I wish we had that national media. unfortunately there is none. Which means, the bloggers have to do what the media failed misserably for thirteen years.

I must say that having just read about a dozen posts in my email account I am amazed you people can even type a thought........................what a bunch of losers

hollinm: "The Libs are so desperate to change the channel they will say or do anything. Of course the media are quit happy to oblige."

Exactly.

I'm not defending out-and-out partisanship on the part of the CPC -- and they should quit doing things that put them in a questionable light, not excusing themselves by "well, the LPC do/did it" -- but it's gotta be asked: Why one standard (very low, almost non-existent) by the media when it comes to the LPC and completely another (very high, 'better be perfect) when it comes to the CPC?

It's almost laughable, except that it borders on corruption. Media members act like unelected MPs when they constantly favour one party over another and shill for them, when their legitimate role is to REPORT the news, not constantly editorialize and run interference for one political party -- the one whose policies and values they support.

I fully agree. The media wants to hoist Harper on his own petard because he said he would be different. However, if you look at what Chretien said when he was running in the 1993 campaign it was exaclty the same thing. Its called politics in Canada.
The fact is since the Conservatives were elected in 2006 the media has feasted on them for virtually anything. We see columns ad nauseum, panels, pundits, pointing out any perceive fault. More importantly as you suggest they do not take the time to put forward a balanced analysis of current events. Watching Tom Clark on Power Play you can see he has no trouble castigating the Conservatives over the fake cheque issue but never once shows what the Libs did over 13 years in government when it comes to partisan promotion.

Hate to break it to you mervin, but harpo is hoisting himself on his own petard. His arrogance knows no bounds and that is now being picked up on peoples' radar screens thatnks to this check scam and other wasted taxpayer money events.

Parnel.....dream on.

mervin, I do dream on but mine won't end in a nightmare. the seeds of Harpo's destruction have been sown are growing wildly right now.

As I said Parnel you keep dreaming in that Liberal rose coloured la la land. You made the same arguments ad nauseum when Dion was elected leader. Now you are doing the same thing with the arrogant Count. One of these days you will realize that Canadians have rejected the carpetbagger and the party he represents.

You and of course the compliant media are falling into the Kinsella trap of making all of yourselves look foolish. Ask any Canadian who the government of Canada is and they will say the Conservative Party of Canada whether Liberals believe it or not.

In the next election it will continue to be the government of Canada. If the Libs think the Conservative party are abusing their position then bring down the government. Otherwise Iffy and the rest of the gang should crawl back in their holes and think about how they can become a more effective opposition.

Looking for scandals on websites is hardly being an effective opposition and actually smacks of desperation to many Canadians.

I know that things can change but at this point there is no evidence that Iffy can win the hearts and minds of Canadians.

Mervin, I love it when you prance around like that. You were always maintaining that Harp was providing Honest government and that has just taken a direct hit. I don't look for scandals on websites; the reformatory opponents are nice enough to bring them into the open where they belong.

You really don't know what you are talking about. "Honest" government?. Show me where Harper or any of his government has pocketed taxpayers money. I think you are confused with the Liberal party. A direct hit? You guys keep falling into traps of your own making. It took some trouble for Kinsella to find the you tube icon up in the top corner. I could hardly see it. What it has done is encouraged with the help of your media friends to cause Canadians to look for the icon and to play it once again continuing to confirm the PM is a good guy. Its hardly trying to hide anything. It was there for all to see. Try nice though.

Mervin, the polls will show the direct hit in the next week or so. This one has legs. A PM who is well recorded saying he will do things differently and then acts like a pirate on the high seas will have a lot to explain.
The only real change we have seen is the massacre of our fiscal health. He is about to make us a basket case just as Muldoon did
Keep up the charade. I enjoy your skating but you won't win any medals

Wishful thinking parnel. The fact is and you need to listen carefully. Canadians don't like Iffy and so you can wish until the cows come home that the polls will change this week but I don't think so. If they do no problem we can live with it because campaigns do matter.

Mervin, that's right campaigns do matter and Harpo will be on the defensive for the whole campaign. The libs have only just begun to label him as dishonest and unethical. Your guys played that game and you will get it back in spades
People will like Iggy a lot more when Harpo is tarred with the dishonesty brush. Life is funny and sometimes things come back and kick you in the lower posterior, which is where the Tory brain trust works from.

Have you noticed hollinm that the national media can't bring themselves to talk about the liberals;
as Bruce mentioned in the previous story. I take it from the media that they are so proud of the liberals ancd their corruption etc that they want to keep it as is.
They media don't want to share with the public the 'corruptions entitlements missing money etc imposed by their beloved LPOC.

The media are elated that 80% of canada's national debt is Trudeau's- isn't that good news.
You know that LPOC made DRASTIC CUTS to FUNDING too: Infrastructure, Healthcare, Education, military, transfer payments to provinces etc. Well, the LPOC claimed as a Surplus. Wow!
And do you know that the PM.STEPHEN HARPER is being blamed for not attending to those de- funded areas.

What about the $54Billion UI/EI scandal. Not a peep of this from the National Media: PP, QP. CBC CTV. Again, the media refuse to mentioned all of this to the public especially to vast majority of liberal voters.

Let's put it this way, the national media don't speak for canadians period- only for the LPOC.
What the National Media fail to realize is that, what we know of the LPOC scandal and corruption and the list of things which they did, can, and will be posted at the NEW YORK TIMES. It is already in the internet so, why the continuation of silence from the media.

Jen.....you are absolutely right. However, that should not surprise us. Many in the media hate Harper because he will not play their silly games so every chance they get they will do their best to raise Harper on his own petard. That's why the spending, photo op issues are such a big deal to them. It allows them to attack the Harper government thereby attempting to raise the Libs in the eyes of the Canadian people. However, I expect that Kinsella's usual smear tactics will be ignored by the folks. I think Canadians have made their assessment of Iffy and do not want him in the PM's chair. We will see a lot of sound and fury today from the Libs who perfected the art of promoting themselves with government money but I expect it will all turn out to be white noise to the electorate. The polls will be interesting this week.

Hollinm, in yesterday edmonton sun in the sports section showed a photo of the prime minister looking at the canadiens jacket jersy etc. logo; apparently the Habs were celebrating years in the business I guess, since I can't remember the whole story.
Anyway, the prime minister was invited; any since the word "logo" in still on the liberals mind as well as their media, doesn't the MONTREAL CANADIENS logo represents CONSERVATIVE and the H represents HARPER= MONTREAL CONSERVATIVE HARPER HOCKEY TEAM.
WoW! how can this be- I guess the Montreal logo has got to change or else they are partisan very partisan. This is headline news.

Jen, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
My morning joke.......thanks.

Funny!!!!!!!!!!!! The Libs and their supporters in the media will be looking for anything that looks like partisan advantage. Good thing Canadians could care less about this kind of stuff. They are busy trying to survive.

Mervin, keep on dreaming. People paid attention when Harpo played the piano and they are surely paying attention now because the underlying issue of trust and honesty has never left.

Of course they paid attention because the media and people like you said he was the devil incarnate. So the media who loves anything fluffy played it to the hilt.

I could just have seen Iffy and his Rosedale gang hanging their heads in disbelief as the video played over and over again and the news cycle covered it ad nauseum. Thanks for all the free publicity.


Then your guy shows his true self and trys to sing in a press conference. Talk about no class. Even Layton had the sense to congratulate the PM but not little Iffy.

No parnel the issue is the economy and I will take the opportunity to remind you that Harper beats Iffy hands down 10/10 times in all the polls.

You know many of your comments were the same ones made to me when Dion was the leader. It is getting pretty tiresome. So I am done. Have a nice day.

Mervin,
Harpo only beats Iggy because he has control of the check book. You seem to be in denial of that fact and the normalcy of those polls in this situation.


Iggy did congratulate him on his performance...you must have missed it because you were at the Tory altar sucking up all the garbage you seem to get from them. Its apparent you don't even have a mind of your own. They tell you Iggy is bad and that becomes your rant. Sad.

Show me parnel. Give me the link. The one spot I saw had him trying to sing after a press conference.

Read this and weep!

http://www.actionplan.gc.ca/RSSFeeds/news/News_...


Oh I can see the pompous one for myself. I don't need to have anybody tell me how to think. Just look at him parnel. The half closed eyes, the slow motion walk, the lizard like tongue licking his lips and the slow delivery of his speeches makes you want to throw up.

He is so full of bromides he can't see straight. How will you cover the deficit Mr. Ignatieff? Watch and see. That sure is an intelligent answer.

Your guy is so full of gaffes Harper will make him look like the amateur he is in the next election. However, I know you need something to clutch to so feel free.

Do your own research; I'm not your bum boy.

parnel....so angry. Why so? Baird took a strip off your angry guys in the House today. Typical Liberal who makes all kinds of accusations but cannot produce the evidence. Just smears and innuendo.

Now I know why you write on every blog and letter to the editor......you want them in your fantasy!!!!

Parnel...I am trying to keep up to you. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

By the way my fantasy is your nightmare.

Mervin, your blindness to the obvious is just like Harpo. He has crewed up and he knows it. Removal of his piano playing from a GOVERNMENT website is an indication that his arrogance has kicked him in the a$$ once more. He managed to get Iggy's numbers down on the polls by assault tactics and they are now coming back to haunt him. They say paybacks are hell............hope you don't get burned too badly and can at least survive the next election as official opposition since you are really supporting a socialist type party now.

Parnel...why are you bitching? You got what you wanted. What will you complain about next?

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You guys wanted stimulus. Now that you got it you want more. Then you argue the deficit is too high. You wanted to allow virtually everybody to collect EI which would have cost billions. Canadians rejected it.

As Harper says you guys are flailing away trying to find something to grab onto and nothing is working.

Once again I repeat. Canadians have one fixation and that is the economy. Harper outpolls Iffy in every respect when it comes to this subject. Even in our worse times last winter he still outpolled your guy as who do Canadians trust to manage the economy.

Every PM in history who has control of the check book rates higher than the opposition leader in a recession. The fact that his spending is not getting to everyone who needs it is the real issue and that's where Harpo is being embarrassed.

We wanted organized stimulus not mafia style stuff. The opposition mostly voted for that stimulus and they together represent ALL Canadians not just the favorite few. We also only voted to approve a deficit of $32BB that is now at $60BB and growing fast.


Keep dreaming but your nightmare will follow.......where there's smoke there is usually a fire!!!!

Usually the talking point is that the recession will defeat the government. However, you can't say that this time because Canadians know it is a world wide recession and they wanted the government to stimulate the economy. So move on to the next talking point.

Prove that the stimulus is not getting to those that really need it. Oh, I know you mean it isn't getting into liberal ridings. Tough. You guys have had 50 years at delivering the bacon and now its payback time.


Ok so you only agreed to the $32 billion deficit. Would you not support the auto industry or perhaps all those people needing EI benefits because the economy was getting worse? It doesn't make sense. Tell me what stimulus spending you wouldn't do. Then we can talk. Otherwise it is pure partisan bu..sh.t which you are great at spewing out ad nauseum.

Mervin, when the unemployment rate reaches over 10% by next spring you then can tell me the stimulus was rolled out in an efficient and timely manner. These idiots you love are doling out money in such small parcels and towards projects where the local government has to raise their end of the money which in most cases they have not done.

Don't make excuses for the larger deficit. These guys are the government and were aware of all the needs in the auto industry and EI. They are guilty of poor government. Plain and simple.

Wake up, your nightmare is coming.

While I am not in favour of politicizing everything that moves the fact is if this kind of silliness causes people to move their votes then they were not supporters of the Conservative party.
I think this whole thing is absurd. The fact remains Canadians don't like Iffy and do not want him to be PM. The polls indicate that and I suspect the next polls will be the same with no fallout from this stuff. The Libs are so desperate to change the channel they will say or do anything. Of course the media are quit happy to oblige.

Mervin, as usual you don't address real facts from your partisan beachhead. The fact that is coming to light more and more is the Tories are just the same old tired characters that got turfed back in 1993. There are other scandals lurking as well.

They have no ideas and are simply running around with our money and big cardboard checks to make it look like they are doing something. The only real thing they are doing is driving us into bankruptcy.

As for polls, you said when Harpo was behind they would change but they now won't for the Libs.....quite noticeable of you to be so naïve and brain dead.

Parnel if you think that this is a winning strategy for you Kinsella Liberals go ahead. However, the polls for the CPC will stay up there because Canadians don't like Iffy and no matter what he says he sounds like an empty suit. Anybody who has to go to a high school ( in Regina) to talk to kids is desperate. He is afraid to speak to adults and of course talking to a pile of kids is the next best thing I guess.

It was you guys who demanded the spending and you got it in spades. It was Liberals who perfected the art of partisan promotion/ grandstanding and Harper has learned well. Now that it has been turned on the Libs they don't like it much.

Once again get it into your hard head Parnel. Canadians do not like Iffy and don't like Libs much these days so that is why the polls will stay where they are.

Just like point out that the pictures shown of the big cheques for the Liberals do not appear to have the Liberal logo nor the signature of the PM or the MP on them. Am I missing something? That is the point. Not the big cheque per se.

I'd sure like to see much more of a followup to Gomery's assessment of the LPC as "criminally organized."

Now, THAT'S a really serious allegation, by a judge no less, so how come there hasn't been an ongoing and rigorous investigation of the criminal elements involved? How come we don't hear about these criminal activities and how come Canadians are still waiting for the million$ stolen from/syphoned off our hard-earned tax dollar$?

I've always sensed that the Librano$ don't pass the smell test -- and am heartily tired of the constant coverups and diversions of the LPC and their cheerleaders in the media. Why does our media not make a big deal about the follow-up on trials that have come out of the Gomery Inquiry? Why aren't they front-page news on a regular basis?

Why do the Conservatives have to come under constant and minute scrutiny, while the Libreral$ are given a pass? Why do so few Canadians know anything about Power Corporation, etc. and it's myriad connections to the LPC?

These are not rhetorical questions? I'd like them answered.

batb...waht drugs do you smoke or inhale in your bat cave.....that's about the most stupid post I've seen in a long time. You are running neck and neck with Canadian nonsense for the insanity prize.

Imagine what being assessed as "criminally organized" would do to the CPC or he PC's before them?
Of course Chretien and his gang of jokers, Little Eddy et al, didn't show any respect for Judge Gomery in the first place, treated him as a joke. Their performance at the Inquiry was despicable.

Why have all the old LPC stalwarts like John Manley jumped off the stump and are silent?

here's more glory for you reformatories to whine about:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/1147994.html

"There is a link to a video of the same guy singing a Beatles song, but there’s no database of projects available for download.

Last month in Oakville, when asked about the allegation — made by a Tory candidate — that one project was killed because the riding was Liberal, the prime minister said don’t worry: "We can give you a list of announcements made across the country."

Three weeks later, after repeated requests for that list, his office told me this week to stop bothering them. Turns out the prime minister was joking, or lying. They are not going to cough up a list. Instead, they directed me to the useless actionplan.gc.ca site, and suggested I click on 6,000 individual links and draw up my own list.

FAIL.

These people are either cynically withholding information that would allow voters to see where their tax dollars are beings spent, or they are idiots, or maybe both.

They think they are smart to hide this information — perhaps because it could be politically damaging if they are shown to be shovelling pork into Tory ridings nationwide — but they are not smart.

Canadians want their government to be accountable, and the Tories ought to know that.

If I had a dollar for every time our prime minister promised "accountability" during election campaigns I’d be able to stimulate the economy of the south of France this winter and forget about clicking on stupid websites.

That promise is what got the prime minister elected, and he is now declining to provide the most basic kind of accountability. He won’t let the people who pay his bills — such as me — see how he is spending our money.

It’s disgraceful and deserves to be denounced as such.

Keep the accusations and complaints coming there Terry, enjoy your whine fest.

The Harper government seems to be doing something right, steadily rising in the polls. People are actually noticing how well we are doing, talking about that fact in daily coffee drinking haunts, many have been called back to work from layoffs. Seniors are still so thankful for pension income splitting and are huge supporters of this government. The Reformatories aren't perfect, no government is or can be. The Liberals are a long way off being in any shape to govern, until they admit it and do something about it instead of whining without offering any alternatives, they will continue to stagnate. It's too bad really, we need a good Opposition to any government.

Mervin, just more partisan BS from you. What will you say when the polls change in the next very few weeks. The check scam issue will knock some points off the arrogance and much higher winter unemployment will do the rest.

My name isn't "Mervin" fine name though it is.

Poor baby, all discombobulated.

When we all stop being partisan there will be no conversation because that's the nature of party politics, everyone tooting their own horn.

Liz J hysterical....I'm sure its not but you both come from the same gene pool that missed an important connection to reality.

I answered a Hollinm post directly from my email and it ended up where it is now.....stephen needs to get more donations fom the faithful so his site can perform properly.

So you're saying you just got fired? Big surprise...........LMAO

Though I'm not sure if the cardboard cheque thing has any legs, I do have a suggestion.

The latest "liberal out-rage"(tm) seems to be premised on the argument that tax dollars should not be used for partisan purposes. I get that. Now would the liberals be in favour of having a vote in the HoC on having the choice between legislation that would end partisan use of tax payer dollars and a choice of sending voters to the polls (a confidence vote)?
Lets presume yes and then perhaps a vote on eliminating that party subsidy in in order.

http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/video/at_issue/...

The "at issue panel" doesn't think much of Harpo's check writing abilities.

Stephen - are you saying that when the Liberals were in power the Government paid for the promotional announcement cheques and that when the Conservatives came into power they have to now pay for them out of their own constituency budgets?

Is that why they are not standardized - the production and design are just left up to constituency offices now whereas before the beurocrats organized the production?

I commented on this exact thing a few days ago. To say nothing of the multi level investment involved and their participation in the various ridings.
You are asking a critical question, imo.

The question should be asked of the 'crats', "Why haven't you done YOUR job?"

Maybe we should corral the guilty crats and build them a new office under one of Iffy's, dream windmills.

Why do MP's get to sign the things?

The money does not belong to the MP.

Why don't they sign them "Taxpayer"?

And who has EVER seen a 'crat' - as your MP friend like to refer to them - attend a funding announcement and want to have their face in the paper? I have seen 'crats at big funding announcements, but I have never seen one jump up on stage with a Bob Barker cheque and grin for the cameras.

http://mikewatkins.ca/2009/10/15/conservative-m...

The most powerful people in Canadian government - cabinet Ministers in Stephen Harper's government - are not following the rules. It isn't the first breach of ethics we've seen from this government (check out the news section of Democracy Watch) and it surely won't be the last uncovered."


Stephen, I think WK has answered the call and made you look a little pale in comparison
on this issue. Is another apology in order? LOL

I like that pic of PMSH in the vest and cowboy hat,
can you make it bigger?

Amen, wilson and let's hope that terry1 is correct that they plan to use it. They should use it now, I say......it has Conservative majority, written all over it!

Just sayin'

It's a really funny picture, as it was meant to be , it shows us he can ham it up with the best of them, showing us his sense of humour. Hoping they do use it.

In case you arrogant reformatories think this is dying or is minor in nature here's a compendium of reports:

"The Economic Action Plan is just as much about stimulating the Conservative party's reelection chances... This is an abuse of tax dollars. Canadians should not be forced, through their taxes, to subsidize a political party's agenda." (Gerry Nicholls, National Post, Friday, October 16, 2009)

"I understand why they would want to take credit... MP's have to get elected, and re-elected. But there has to be a line drawn." (Howard Wilson, former ethics commissioner, October 15, 2009)

"I'm more troubled in the end by the notion that there might be a pattern to this that has seen money go to Conservative ridings rather than other ridings, and that to me breaks or is more over the line than actually even those cheques." (Chantal Hebert, CBC The National, October 15, 2009)

"It's symbolic of something underneath it which is a habit... that says that the public's money is their own, a program of government that says it's entitled to use that money to the furtherance of its own partisan political interests." (Andrew Coyne, CBC The National, October 15, 2009)

"It goes against everything that Stephen Harper campaigned on and against the notion once again that a new prime minister and a new regime was going to clean up the way Ottawa works." (Chantal Hebert, CBC The National, October 15, 2009)

"There really is sort of layer upon layer of scandal here. You've got not just the use of the logos but the use of individual MPs handing out this money." ( Andrew Coyne, CBC The National, October 15, 2009)

"Gerald Keddy is not a minister of the Crown. He's got no business anywhere near that ceremony. This is a corruption of their role. They're supposed to be watchdogs on the public purse." (Andrew Coyne, CBC The National, October 15, 2009)

"The Conservative MPs who splashed their names across big stupid cheques are... behaving corruptly by using public funds for personal or partisan political gain." (Colby Cosh, National Post, October 16, 2009)

"Beyond the shameful chequebook politics, there's an apparent tendency to concentrate stimulus funding in government-held ridings." (Don Martin, National Post, October 16, 2009)

"Keddy probably thought adding the logo to the cheque would spruce up the photo-op of him handing it over to a grateful recipient. Or perhaps he just wanted to make sure the recipient remembered who to thank come the next federal election. Either way, his action caused a storm of protest." (Gerry Nicholls, National Post, October 16, 2009)

"The partisan handouts are just the latest game played with your tax dollars by a government that promised to do things differently. It has blanketed the airwaves with government-promotion ads at a pace six times the rate of any H1N1 public education blitz." (Don Martin, National Post, October 16, 2009)

"La seule conclusion possible du commissaire à l'éthique doit être que cette pratique utilisée par 47 députés conservateurs est contre l'éthique parlementaire." (Jean Saint-Cyr, L'Acadie Nouvelle, 16 octobre 2009)

"L'argent remis par le député conservateur, Gerald Keddy, n'est ni le sien, ni celui du parti, mais bien l'argent des contribuables canadiens." (Jean Saint-Cyr, L'Acadie Nouvelle, 16 octobre 2009)

"It is well known that I am a Conservative government supporter and have been keeping a list of Harper government accomplishments as a show of that support. However, I sure don't support this latest streak of partisanship when it comes to government business - by including a Conservative Party of Canada (CPC) logo on stimulus project presentation cheques." (Sandra Crux, Crux-of-the-matter blog, October 15, 2009)

"I think people are intelligent enough to figure out what party the MP handing out the stimulus cheque belongs to. And we're also smart enough to figure out when we're being lied to." (Raphael Alexander, National Post blog, October 15, 2009)

"That is not how government works. Once someone is elected a Member of Parliament, they then represent ALL the people of their riding, not just those of the party who voted for them. Moreover, how would Conservatives feel if the Liberals were doing this?" (Sandra Crux, Crux-of-the-matter blog, October 15, 2009)

"There really isn't a Conservative Party anymore. There's only a Tory Party. Any of the conservatism has been bleached out of them. They're simply not interested in those issues anymore." (Andrew Coyne, CBC The National, October 15, 2009)

"Perhaps Canada needs a new conservative party... Lately some (MPs) have taken to decorating these with a Conservative Party logo. Our money -- their logo." (Michael Den Tandt, Toronto Sun, October 16, 2009)

"Keddy probably thought adding the logo to the cheque would spruce up the photo-op of him handing it over to a grateful recipient. Or perhaps he just wanted to make sure the recipient remembered who to thank come the next federal election. Either way, his action caused a storm of protest." (Gerry Nicholls, National Post, October 16, 2009)

MacLean's has a whole bunch of pictures of Liberals handing out checks here:
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/liberal-cheq...

I think the narrative just died.

None of those cheques have the Liberal logo. I think 1 of them had a signature. So you've got 1 example over 13 years vs. 200 examples over the last 2 years. I think the narrative is still going pretty strong.

Show me 200 cheques with the CPC logo

C'mon Stephen there are pictures posted all over the place now. I almost think 200 is a low number.

I'm not counting the demonstrators who showed up at a Harpercrite appearance with cradboard NSF checks as a gift to the Harpecrite.

There are surely more than 200 cheques out there,
with (?) 4500 projects destined for stimulus funding!

Wilson you poor dumb sap. they are not projects. They are simply photo ops for the Harpocrite bunch who have no platform and nothing to sell canadians except their own borrowed money. People will soon catch on.

I think the average Canadian who tunes into this story hits mute on the partisan bellyaching of the oh-so-virtuous Liberal Party and sees 181 examples of the government getting stimilus money out of the public treasury and into our communities.

You can't buy that kind of press.

The Liberals also now claim they have more than 200 of these photos, which kind of knocks the legs out from under their "the Conservatives are only spending money in Conservative ridings" spiel, considering the Tories have only 143 MPs.

200 photos-143 mps does not mean there were at least 57 oppositions ridings that got money. Some of the same Conservative MPs have 10 or as many as 20 cheques.

As well, many of these cheques have nothing to do with stimulus. Many go as far back as 2007, well before the recession and the stimulus spending.

The Liberals just don't learn those lessons.

Wafers, bodybags, leaked hidden agenda tape, now oversized cheques. They don't understand why they are polling 25%. The apologists for the Liberals think they are an election away from regaining power.

I have to agree with CanadianSense. The Liberals are choosing to focus on issues like it's a pitch for a new reality TV pilot. All optics, no substance. There is no shortage of truly alarming things to criticize the Conservatives on... they just need to learn how to engage Canadians in an adult conversation (ample evidence on this site's comments to the contrary, I *think* we're still capable of having one.)

As the opposition their options are somewhat limited. They know harpo will steal almost any idea they put out there so they are better off to hold their fire. Iggy has sent out some policy messages like a rapid train system from QC to Windsor which are true infrastructure projects that will last for generations. Harpo cannot steal that one because he has blown the whole deal on his check scheme of small projects and lots of cardboard.

If you listen to Canadian nonsense you will become crazy. He has, should I say it nicely, a certain flamboyant reputation for things that are off the wall.

Canadain nonsense, They are polling poorly at the moment because harpo put on a full court press using his bully pulpit of the PM's office to distribute phoney project cash all across the country and managed to get his name in every TV broadcast and on the front page of every newspaper. Now the news is turnng on him and he will soon be the one at 25%. Of course you wouldn't understand all this because you are the oakville crackpot and nutbar. The mayor thinks you are crazy also.

I have heard you say the same thing about Martin, Dion and now Iffy. You simply have nothing. You keep promising to "reveal" my real name. I have asked 20x and you can't deliver.

Are you afraid to post the name? You have my permission feel free to post the person's name. ROFL. ( I will find him and forward your ip to him, you can resolve the matter)

25% is not the floor for the Liberals. Dion was a better leader, he lived in Canada and was not a George Bush supporter who supported Empire Lite.

I have heard reformatories say that Harper is honest only to see the next lies and unethical use of public money come front and center.

hmmm, notice how it's all about the prop!
wafers, bodybags, tape, cheques.....
Purple Dinosaur

It is funny watching the Liberal bedwetters blame everyone for their 25% polling.

They blamed the RCMP, Gomery and nasty TV ads, and voters who are stupid or tricked.

Terry1, Parnel, Ti-guy represent the worst in bloggers. Simply delusional.

They don't accept any Poll or study that shows their party in a negative light.

They can' t comprehend regular voters don't read or post on political blogs. They can't understand the Liberal Party has been in a steady downward decline from 37% with Paul Martin.

They have lost the rural vote, visible minority, trail by 11% FEMALE vote now, catholic vote and the reason is the meanie right wing conspiracy from the WEST.

It is tragic to read the flacid flailing posts of these Liberals apologists.

I voted for the Liberals until the GST flip and boot to Nunziata. I have not had any reason to return or defend their incompetence.

No stupid we don't blame anyone else. We also didn't need to merge our party with a bunch of right wing jerks. You represent the worst in humanity. Your crackpot reputation precedes you and I will ensure it gets around. As for exposing your name in public, I'm not that crude. That's a typical crackpot trick. How's the power plant protest going?
How come Terence young won't take your calls and emails directly?
How come everyone who knows you says you are crazy or a crackpot?

The posts you write are simply stupid drivel.

This article really lays out the hyopcrisy of the refortmatory party such as it is.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/brian-topp...

"Second, those pictures are a reminder that this Conservative government is governing at complete variance with its own principles.

That Prime Minister is the former head of the National Citizens Coalition. The Finance Minister ran to be leader of the Ontario PC Party on the theme that Mike Harris wasn't right-wing enough.

These are the people who believe that the magic solution to all economic ills is to manipulate the money supply. These are the people who believe that all government cheques cause illegitimacy, drug dependency, and crime. These are the people who believe the market governs best -- that unemployment is good for workers, poverty good for families, and that the rich will provide for all, provided their tax cuts are generous enough.

And yet there they are not only passing out those satanic government cheques, but branding them with their party colours.

Third, in counterpoint, these images are a reminder of how conservatives have actually governed in recent times throughout North America.

The political ancestors of today's conservatives opposed pensions, health care, schools, and many other public goods the overwhelming majority of citizens value. So they were usually defeated. Today's conservatives have figured this out. And so they peddle a different agenda: valued public goods can all be had, for free. Nothing fundamental needs to happen to public services. And taxes can all be deeply cut."

Stephen, again your extreme partisanship shows through. Accountability is just that. Harper ran on it and has not delivered and in fact ha sbeen less accountable than any other PM I've leived under.

http://farnwide.blogspot.com/2009/10/obnoxious....
http://thestar.blogs.com/politics/2009/10/sing-...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/...

And this from a usual friend of the reformatories:

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/...

In the pursuit of unethical equivalency, all smarmy activity done by this government can be justified as having its genesis in previous administrations. Little wonder the public is so cynical about Ottawa. The changing of the government guard is nothing more than new dogs learning old tricks.

The latest lesson comes with the plastering of Conservative logos, colours, MP names or prime ministerial signatures on oversized cheques for public presentation purposes.

The real signatory on the bottom line should be our kids, since they will be burdened with repaying all this borrowed payola. Beyond the shameful chequebook politics, there's an apparent tendency to concentrate stimulus funding in government-held ridings which, if this becomes a proven national trend, will be explained away as new Conservatives behaving just like old Liberals.

When it comes to claiming glory for public funds, it's true Liberals usually invited only their kind or cronies to announcements. But the Conservatives have elevated this strategy to an invitational art form. They have banished MPs of different parties from announcements in their ridings and even denied entry to rival-party provincial figures (the recent fiscal report card, for example), the better to have only Tories basking in front-row exposure."

As you can easily see its not one reporter or news source.

I suppose the Libs have given up trying to tell Canadians that the Cons. have done a poor job dealing with the economic downturn. It ain't flying.

They will have to find some scandal and hope that it sticks. So far they have failed miserably. This one has some meat but they'll scrape it to the bone and beyond.

This is a defining moment for the Libs. The best poll has them at 28% nationally. It could be closer to 25%. They do not want people to get too comfortable seeing their numbers in the mid 20's and accept that as the norm.

The Libs are looking for momentum anywhere and they want it fast.I think you'll see a continuation of this blitz style fake rage on any number of issues until ,they hope , something sticks.

David, you don't think Harpo's summer theatre of the absurd wasn't an act to gain points in the polls?
Just how dumb are you?

What you refer to as "summer theatre of the absurd" was the stimulus plan (urged on by the other parties) being rolled out. The result earned a rise in the polls for the PM and the CPC. The government did what it was asked to do. I'll toss the question back to you. If you refuse to acknowledge the absurdity of your stance, just how dumb are you?

Anne in swON..........let me suggest that they should have been workin to get the actual money out instead of mounting a hollywood production at our expense.

I simply don't acknowledge absurity unless its the one I originally pointed out. The rise in the polls is only a temporary rerieve for this useless government.

By the way the stimulus plan approved in the HOC, and at only half the current planned deficit, said nothing about a gong show to get the announcements out.

Stephen T.

Mainstreet is not paying attention because of a logo or oversized cheque "scandal" (FIP-violation).

The Polls reflect a rebuke of the Liberal Party since their declaration this September.

The Polls are not a reflection of CPC handling of the economy, H1N1, jobs files as they are a "snapshot" in time of an opposition party that refuses to have an adult conversation with voters on how, what, how much regarding their alternative and demanding we hold an election.

Out of touch, arrogance numbers for MI have shot up as a result.-Angus Reid

Main street are not posting or reading blogs or watching the National At Issue Panel. Mansbridge and his wafer brigade was the last straw for many of us.

The CPC numbers have been steadily recovering to their 2008 October election results.

Great site BTW!

We know just how desperation has caused the Liberals to lose the simple ability to reason when they're using even using H1N1 to try to make political gain. What would they have been able to do differently isn't something they have or can put forward. Government Health Ministers are not medical experts, they have to rely on the real experts to do the job and that's just what this Minister has done. It must be a safe vaccine and one that will be effective , that's the criteria that comes before haste. This isn't an issue to go off half cocked on, we're dealing with people's lives.

How is demanding better or demanding what every other country has done "using H1N1 to try to make political gain"?

The US has the vaccine. Japan has the vaccine. Even much smaller countries have the vaccine.

Their citizens are being protected.

We are not. And we won't be until... who knows when.

Ted you need to focus on your "faux" scandals.

The crisis over the CPC MP's violation (FIP) , looking forward to the campaign from the Liberals complaining to the regular voter about the logos. (Don't forget to add the olympic conspiracy rant too)

H1N1 is being managed at we have an ACTUAL plan. Remember SARS, the government took notes and learned their lesson.

Almost as funny as the two Liberal MP's who are MD's talking to themselves and pretending the Press Gallery are listening.

In one breath your liberals smear the US health system, than point to it as an example.

Reminds me of your leader bragging about how China is doing wonderful things for Green Energy and the environment. (You should have demanded a democratic leadership contest).

Canadian nonsense......you are a crackpot from oakville and are well known and avoided there by all and sundry. IS THIS YOUR WAY OF GETTING EVEN FOR BEING IGNORED?

Please go back and support Terence Young. He needs your help to lose the enxt election.

As usual, you know diddly squat and just go into Liberal fearmongering.

The US has a LIVE virus nasal vaccine, making it available for VERY limited use.
I know this because one of Health Canada's people was on CTV telling us what's happening in the world of swine flu.
November our vaccine gets distributed, and within days Canada will actually be ahead of the other countries,
as we are not taking a piece meal approach, and doing massive delivery with enough doses for every last man women and child in our country.

The Provinces have been doing alot of advertising, in concert with the Feds....because delivery of healthcare is a Provincial responsibility.

The Oakville crackpot has arrived...there goes another good site

Actually it's much more than just Keddy's cheque. If you go through the photos on the flickr account you'll see Lisa Raitt handing out a cheque that has no reference to the GOC, only a flag. Then you have Clement and Gallant with cheques from "Canada's New Government", Larry Miller with a cheque that appears to be from himself, same with Brian Storseth....

If you want to go all cheesy and hand out giant cheques, they should look like the ones Rona Ambrose had. Her's looked like the GST or rebate cheques from the government.

I'm sorry but it's more than 1 photo, and even the ones that say "Government of Canada" somewhere are so overtly covered in Conservative messaging it's obvious they've been made to look like cheques from the Conservative Party.

I don't know how it could be any more obvious that the CPC are using tax dollars to score cheap political points, and the party should stop pretending they're any different from the Liberals before them.

It was a prop, at a photo op.
No one in their right minds thinks a 2 X 6 cardboard cheque can be cashed.

"Canada's New Government" was an official wordmark of the Government of Canada, not of the Conservative Party of Canada.

Just because the the CPC created a wordmark for the GoC instead of the CPC, doesn't make it innocuously nonpartisan.

Van Loan and other cabinet ministers had the Tory slogan on it, Stephen. Others had the logo.

The signatures are also not allowed, especially when there is no reference to the Government of Canada as is usually the case. Although I accept that these breaches of the rules are less egregious.

But given the sheer number of personalized cheques, use of the logo, use of party slogans, even the small infractions of the rules shows the bigger pattern. Flagrant abuse of taxpayer money for partisan advertising, over and over and over.

Do you really think Say Anything Harper would have cared less and said nothing about this scheme if Martin had been doing it? Honestly?

Keep on whining and sniveling Ted, where are the LPoC's numbers going? Freefalling into the abyss of becoming "da turd pardi", that's where.

I bet the third quarter donation toals will be very slim indeed for the party that Gomery called 'criminally organized".

That's the kicker, ...."local MP spends your money on you in your community", how many would turn it down on principle? Remember it's all about principles for the Liberal squawkers on this issue they're trying to make a mountain on. Liberals are so high on principles and ethics and morals from the sidelines.

Can't really see this as an issue at all, it may be a little tacky but not a topic of conversation, folks have more pressing matters to deal with.

As for accountability, accountability for what? The Conservative government is putting our money into our communities on projects to stimulate our economy and create jobs, that's the accountability that matters, not this latest display of desperation by the Opposition to try to create a scandal they hope will help them get enough traction to get out of the hole they put themselves in.

Watching the Liberals is like watching monkeys in a cage ceaselessly throwing feces at a wet wall all the while desperately hoping that something will stick.

What a pathetic bunch.

It was not just one cheque. You are whitewashing this.

There were 181 plus cheques with MP signatures on them all. That is not proper since it is a Government of Canada document, but probably not a big deal.

However, at least a dozen of them had a Conservative Party logo or slogan on it. Not one.

More importantly, it isn't about the politicizing of the novelty cheque. It is about the politicizing the entire stimuls and government. The vast vast vast majority of stimulus and infrastructure spending is being funnelled into Tory ridings. The website and the TV ads are overtly partisan. For example, we saw the rather innocuous ads all summer, but only when Ignatieff threatend an election did the phrase "we must stay on track" suddenly find itself in the ad and suddenly the ad was in much heavier rotation. That doesn't even tackle the issue about why is the ad being paid for with taxdollars anyway? And why so way out of proportion to sending out information we need like on H1N1?

The politicizing is so bad and corrupt that the Economic Action Plan "Connect" links all go to Say Anything Steve's personal websites, including the youtube link that links directly to his piano performance at the National Arts gala. WTF???

And now Tory MPs have the audacity to blame the bureaucrats for this? Double WTF?

How disconnected from Canadians can a government be to be playing such partisan games in the middle of a recession in which Canadians from all regions, not just Tory ridings, are suffering.

But it shows another disconnect as well, between the MPs and their base. Not only are plenty of conservatives and Blogging Tories pretty outraged by this, but the loyalists who would never criticize Say Anything are taking a different defensive tack.

While Stephen here and some others are trying to take a DefCon6 (DefendConservatives 6) approach, others like this anonymous MP are ramping it up to DefCon3. Gerald Keddy himself when immediately to DefCon2. So we know they recognize their vulnerability on this.

The DefCon chart:

DefCon6: Dismiss the story/controversy/event as minor, not relevant and a non-story.
DefCon5: If it does not go away, blame the Liberal Party.
DefCon4: If it still does not go away, blame the media.
DefCon3: If it still does not go away, find some other non-Conservative to blame - a bureaucrat, provincial premier
DefCon2: If it has still not gone away, blame a staffer and fire him or her if necessary
DefCon1: If none of the foregoing has worked to deflect, start talking about the Sponsorship Scandal, broken GST promises, Trudeau's NEP, torture, "just visiting".

Ted,
as a partisan for the Liberal Party your efforts to highlight a violation regarding 1-2 cheques does help lift the political fortunes of your party.
The error on the use of party logos is not in dispute. The error(s) has been explained and corrected. This is not a scandal or a systematic widespread example of abuse.

The Auditor General Sheila Fraser has many examples of abuses and that were systemic under the previous Federal Liberal Government.

Ted you would only have to look at your provincial Liberals government as an example of abuse of power and coverup. The list is too long.

I am in favour of much more detail in EAP. I don't accept the excuses for the delays.

I was not in favour of the amount of stimulus and the lack of debate from the opposition in many of the spending this year. How many days and questions did the opposition spend on the $ 10.5 Billion dollar bailout? How much attention have they spent on olympic logos, bodybags, attacking the government or being racist or incompentent regarding H1N1?

The 25% in the Polls reflect the Liberal "GPS" strategy. It is not the TV ads or the NAC's video that is responsible for the state of affairs in the Liberal Party.

Stop blaming the voters who turn away and turn off the garbage from the partisans who ignore reality and common sense. Voters are not stupid or are being tricked. The BS called Liberal criticism is NOT working. The CBC, Toronto Star and Jane Taber's can not restore your party to power.

Canadian nonsense...stick to your knotting and go stop the power plant in Oakville if you can get anyone to listen to you. Everyone there knows you as a crackpot. Thank God you are a Tory!!!!!!

What will you say next week if the polls show the libs back over 30%, which is entirely possible.

You will have another discussion with yourself, because no one else will, and come up with another stupid answer.

Terry, please contribute to the discussion rather than spew insults

Stephen, I hope you sent the same message to the troll, Bruce, to whom I responded. Look at his post.

Yes, yes, we'll deal with all bad behaviour. But please take personal responsibility for your own.

Thanks!

The other thing Stephen is that I just tried to edit my post but the edit feature is not there right now. It comes and goes. I have contacted Disqus about these problems and have heard nothing back yet.

Ok, keep me posted

''That is not proper since it is a Government of Canada document''

Oh grow up! It was a prop, and not an official anything, not a govt document by any stretch of the imagination.

Next time you write a blog post test, link to it instead. Thanks for the comment though

So how many betts have you lost ted?

"It is about the politicizing the entire stimuls and government."

Why is it that I don't think you gave a damn about "politicizing the entire stimuls and government" when it was the LIBERALS pulling this sort of garbage with our money, Ted? That's the REAL difference between most Liberals and most Conservatives; most Conservatives will speak up about it when they see feather-bedding, but Liberals are happy with no matter what happens, so long as they get their cut.

"Why is it that I don't think you gave a damn "

I don't know. You tell me. It is you who is making wild assertions without any knowledge about what I thought or believed or did. Not that that is relevant to whether the current government is scamming us or not, of course.

"most Conservatives will speak up about it "

OK, show me where?

You can start with the half-dozen or so posts about it on Blogging Tories, for one. When the truth started to come out about Chretien's brown paper bags, there was nary a peep to be heard about it from Liblogs, only "How can we hush this up?"

They should have known better than to pull this crap in the first place. Is it as bad as running a kickback scheme to line the pockets of your pals the way the Liberals did? No, of course not, but it stinks of the same "it's our money, so we're going to spend it the way we want to" sense of entitlement that the Liberals are well-known for. Politicians don't BREAK WIND without considering how that's going to be sold to the public, both by themselves and the opposition, and I can't believe that no-one in the government said "Hey, this is going to look like the Shawinigan Strangler is back in business". THINK for a minute, you idiots.

I think those enormous cheques look pretty damn good.
Just stay within the guidelines guys and gals.

Oh, and I love it anytime anyone uses ADSCAM in a comment,
keep it up, and maybe we can find out who those 12 Liberal candidates were that Liberal bagman Cote confessed to giving stolen and laundered taxpayer cash to..!!
Dion says 'me not know',
Iffy was imported so he couldn't know......

Ugh, how about Governments (of all stripes) agreeing to stop presenting cheques in photo-ops as if the government spending public money is somehow akin to Ed McMahon arriving with the prize patrol?

I don't agree. Photo-ops are an important part of community life.
When I pick up the local rag, and see 'Walmart ribbon cutting ceremony' etc,
it connects us to local events.
How do we expect a larger voter turnout if people are not engaged in their community?

And note to CPC MPs in Alberta, don't get lazy.
I haven't seen my Cons MP 'ever' in my community.
And look at Edmonton Strathcona with a Dipper as the sitting MP.

Don't think that can't happen in ANY Alberta riding.....Get visible and get crackin'.

Wilson, I asked an MP in alberta that question 'why are they not making more appearance ect'
Well, a while back I asked a conservative mp why we are not hearing or seeing what he is doing on television expecially when it has to do in a particular area where albertans would like to know.
He said that the media is with him but why they refuse to air him or write about him is a question he wonders himself.

Which means Wilson, media reporter television crew and the rest of them are with the conservatives when they are doing the job for the government for the people and for some reason or other the media and reporter decides whether or not the community is worth broadcasting meaning the job the prime minister has been doing for your community or montreal or quebec or alberta or where ever is worth the airtime .
The media just don't like to see the conservatives working for the public. rather they would like to see the liberals work for -THE MEDIA.
Have you ever heard a reporter ask a liberal for the $40million which the libs still owe so we can pay for some thing-NO and why should they-they work for the LPOC.

Well, then the Cons MPs have to do alot of self promotion, not expect the media to cover them.
Bring a camera and submit the pics to the local rag.
Send letters to the editor, pick a project/issue and get vocal, get on the radio.
Hold town halls.....hold community meetings at Tim Hortons.
But don't expect a free ride from PMSH.

Wilson, the mp I was talking about is not mine it just so happens that that mp deals in that partiular area where I was curious to know.
However, I must say my own mp is very good, he goes to communities, send emails to update me what he is doing as well as the party. I have to admit he is good in his job and cares.

You might be onto something there!