The Seinfeldian media

The latest installment of the “will there or won’t there be an election?” drama of As the Hill Turns, the Canadian Press reports that Quebec Liberal candidates at an election readiness workshop had their election “mug shots” done — these are the official photos that Elections Canada and the media will use to report on the election (and while these are Quebec Liberals, I say “mug shots” for lack of a more descriptive term).

Will they or won’t they? — that is the question that has the media scrambling to fill their columns and air-time. Today, I was on Montreal drive-time talk radio and despite mentioning that party leaders themselves ratchet up election timing rhetoric to fundraise and to fill nominations, we still chatted about the prospects of a fall election.  I fear that I didn’t play my role and let the audience down when I explained that all of this election talk is just the empty thrill of a cheap drama.  I explained that prior to the summer break, Michael Ignatieff had just six additional nominations filled beyond his caucus compliment.  Further, despite healthier second quarter fundraising numbers — buoyed largely by Liberal leadership convention fees — the Liberals still have a steep hill to climb when it comes to fundraising.  Party leaders (or their proxies) amp up imminent election talk to create a sense of urgency that compels people to give and to act.

As for those Quebec Liberal candidate photos that were snapped — indicating that we just be going for it soon — it’s pretty standard fare, I’m sorry to say.

Though I fear this will fuel even more election speculation, the Conservative candidates — all of them — had their election mug shots snapped at the Conservative training convention early last month.

A summer of communion wafers, G8 photo-ops and inuktitut spelling gaffes has professional flacks looking for something else, and instead of hopping on an expensive jet to cover news where its happening, most of the bubble-locked Ottawa media are in a standard holding pattern and doing their best as bit players in a show about nothing called When is the next election?

Because perhaps when those glorious days come, they’ll have something more to talk about.

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  • jamesrolfe

    We Canadians need another election like we all need a “Soup Nazi”……Seinfeldian enough for you Iggy?

  • Switchyard O'Taylor

    I hope Ignatieff learns faster than Dion that threatening an election and winning one are two entirely different things.

  • Parnella

    Seinfeldian media would be fitting to report on a Seinfeldian election.

    If there is a coming together of the mindless, a wheeling and dealing of opposition hot to trots for power seats, it will be about nothing beyond a grab for power. That fact will not be lost on the masses.

  • Parnella

    Seinfeldian media would be fitting to report on a Seinfeldian election.

    If there is a coming together of the mindless, a wheeling and dealing of opposition hot to trots for power seats, it will be about nothing beyond a grab for power. That fact will not be lost on the masses.

  • Parnella

    How fitting, a Seinfeldian election covered by the Seinfeldian media.

  • Parnella

    How fitting, a Seinfeldian election covered by the Seinfeldian media.

  • terry1

    Maybe the reformatorts should pay more attention to “ethnic” Canadians instead of trying to govern by threats to other parties through contiued confidence votes,etc. Maybe Stephen, you should be reading more broadly to see how these heroes of yours really act. The articvle below shows how color blind the angry white tories really are and how the ethnic comunities view them. we do need a change of government. Nik Nanos' poll out in the past few hours show that Canadians have had enough of him.

    http://www.thelinkpaper.ca/index.php?subaction=

    “The case of Suaad Hagi Mohamud, a 31 year old Somali-Canadian, who has been languishing in a Kenyan prison after wrongfully branded an imposter with a Canadian passport, shows that under the current Conservative government of Stephen Harper – if you are black, brown, yellow or some other non-white person – your Canadian citizenship means nothing if a minor allegation is made abroad against you by corrupt foreign officials. According to the Toronto Sun, Mohamud presented a number of documents to Canadian diplomats in Nairobi attesting to her Canadian citizenship. They included an Ontario driver's licence, an Ontario Health Insurance Plan card, a citizenship certificate, a social insurance card, credit card, bank cards, a Humber River Regional Hospital card, a Shoppers Drug Mart card, a note from her Toronto employer, and a recent Toronto dry cleaning receipt. However, this was not enough for them. They rejected the documents and continued to brand her an imposter. “
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  • terry1

    stephen, here's some non Seinfield sobering news for you.:

    Nik Nanos' poll out in the past few hours show that Canadians have had enough of him.
    Harper Re-election Question: [Rotate] Some people think that Stephen Harper has done a good enough job to deserve re-election. Others think that he has had his chance and it is time for a change. Which of these two opinions best reflects your personal view?

    Time for a change 58.5%
    Deserves re-election 31.9%
    Unsure 9.5%

    That poll was taken in late July when most Canadians don't really focus on politics, yet the vast majority either wanted or possibly wanted a change in government. That same poll taken again in mid September or later would probably show even higher numbers wanting a change.

  • Michael Harkov

    Terry, if that is the case, why does every poll taken recently state that the voters are happy with the direction the Tories are taking this country? Why are their performance numbers on areas like how they are handling the economy remaining steady, even improving as people are becoming more confident in our economy’s recovery?

    A change in government doesn’t necessarily mean a change of the party in power. Remember that poll not too long ago that stated that people were ready for a majority government? After three minority governments in a row, this could very well be “the change in government” that people want.

    Now tell me Terry, which party do you HONESTLY think is more in a position to secure that majority? But before you answer, consider the narrative – the Tories have had two stints as a minority government, and they have not been the uber scarey soldiers-in-our-streets variety that Liberal attack ads screamed that they would be. It is the governing Tories that are the ones now making their pitch for a more stable government in these tough economic times. Also consider that poll after poll after poll has the voters telling us that they DON”T want another election. Who do you think is going to be punished at the voter’s booth for defeating a sitting government during bad economic times? It takes all the opposition parties to defeat the government (including the Liberals) to cause an election that no one wants. Since it is the Tories who are saying they don’t want an election and it is the Liberals and their leader that are constantly agititating for an election (yet caving evey single time when the opportunity presents itself) who do you think will be the target of the voters wrath?

    If it is an election that you want, Terry, you know the oldsaying – be careful what you wish for…… :D

  • Michael Harkov

    Terry, if that is the case, why does every poll taken recently state that the voters are happy with the direction the Tories are taking this country? Why are their performance numbers on areas like how they are handling the economy remaining steady, even improving as people are becoming more confident in our economy’s recovery?

    A change in government doesn’t necessarily mean a change of the party in power. Remember that poll not too long ago that stated that people were ready for a majority government? After three minority governments in a row, this could very well be “the change in government” that people want.

    Now tell me Terry, which party do you HONESTLY think is more in a position to secure that majority? But before you answer, consider the narrative – the Tories have had two stints as a minority government, and they have not been the uber scarey soldiers-in-our-streets variety that Liberal attack ads screamed that they would be. It is the governing Tories that are the ones now making their pitch for a more stable government in these tough economic times. Also consider that poll after poll after poll has the voters telling us that they DON”T want another election. Who do you think is going to be punished at the voter’s booth for defeating a sitting government during bad economic times? It takes all the opposition parties to defeat the government (including the Liberals) to cause an election that no one wants. Since it is the Tories who are saying they don’t want an election and it is the Liberals and their leader that are constantly agititating for an election (yet caving evey single time when the opportunity presents itself) who do you think will be the target of the voters wrath?

    If it is an election that you want, Terry, you know the oldsaying – be careful what you wish for…… :D

  • http://streetadvisorconsulting.blogspot.com markalanwhittle

    That NANO's poll asks more questions than it answers. The recession has raised doubts among many Canadian's yet they still have faith in government. The responses seem conflicted and the questions staged. All I know is that here in Hamilton there are more cranes in the air than you can shake a stick at. Boom town for us.

  • Jen

    All I know is that here in Hamilton there are more cranes in the air than you can shake a stick at. Boom town for us.

    So it is here in Alberta, which indicates, recovery is on but it seems the opposition parties and their uselsess media are not interested. Why should they? They report good news on 'gloom and doom'

  • Parnella

    So true and especially an election about nothing but a grab for power.

  • East of Eden

    The latest MacLean's magazine shows some positive news for PM Harper. I will post some excerpts later this evening or tomorrow – no time at the present to do so. The numbers and the experts' opinions don't put our PM in majority territory but they do show him as looking fairly decent and Ignatieff starting to fade a bit. The NDP and Green were not mentioned – not surprisingly.

  • terry1

    You dn't get more damning results than the current ones for a PM who has had the front pages almost all to himself all summer.

    Your wet dreams are about to become a nightmare of sorts as the hot rumour around Ottawa right now is that Harpo will resign in the next few weeks. I have maintained that position on him for some time now as once he realized Iggy is for real, and he is very much so, the majority he needs and ideological makeover of our society would never happen.

    In this case there will not be an election until about 90 days after the party chooses a new leader. I estimate that to be next spring and the Libs will really be loaded with cash and lots more ammo to take down the cons.

  • Paul O

    terry1, you might want to revisit the polling results for that same question as asked at the last election. You might find that in a minority Government situation, only a minority of voters who actually cast ballots voted for the incumbent Party. The Nanos results are not a surprise, nor are they an indication of anything other than that a number of voters plan to vote for the Bloq, the Lierals, and even the NDP if there were an election held today.

    What would be a national news story would be if, even in the face of the worst economic situation since the 1930's, more than a third of Canadians felt an affinity for a Party they didn't vote for last time out.

    But these are the polls which the Liberals want to use to take us to the polls once again, in the desperate hope of winning three more seats than last time. Or maybe even ten – oh what a victory that would be!

  • terry1

    Paul O….you might also want to understand the dynamics of the last election better. Harper succeeded in demonizing Dion,called an election when he wasn't supposed to, and over 800,000 lib voters stayed home both in protest of Dion's leadership and the morally illegal election call. I saw that clearly and even the Harpo party even received fewer votes than in 2006. This guy is going nowhere except back to a think tank bunker.

    In apite of what you might think Iggy has more momentum going for him that you realize. He has kept a very low profile all summer, while out raising money and memberships, and didn't take a hit at all in party standings while Harpo had the front pages all to himself and is going sideways or down.

    The Libs will win at least 25 seats more if an election was held today but stand to gain as many as 45 to 50 seats in the enxt election. The reformatorts would lose over 30 seats in an election held today,based on recent polls, and their real prospects are even dimmer than that.

  • East of Eden

    BTW – I like your on-line handle. Quite unusual.

  • East of Eden

    Terry1 shows up on Janke's blog as Parnell. Wonder why the guy switches handles.

  • East of Eden

    Why is this short-lived recession described as being the worst since the 1930s? I remember the Trudeau years as being horrific. Double-digit inflation, unemployment and interest rates. Businesses were going under or moving out of Canada, people were losing their homes and jobs. Personally, I suffered far more under Trudeau's recession than this one. I lost my job, years out of my career, almost lost my home…etc.

  • terry1

    I show up as parnel not parnell. I don't switch handles. For some reason I could not register that name on this site. does that answer your question.

    I have nothing to hide, I'm not a reformatort.

  • terry1

    The Trudeau were years of high inflation world wide and fast growing populations as baby boomers were in need of much more infrastructure than was available as none was really built from just after the postwar boom.

    My career was just starting and I did quite well in those times. Must have been my cheeryLiberal outlook and not being a whiney tory.

  • East of Eden

    Parnell/Terry1: you seem fixated on sexual activities. You mention wet dreams quite often and seem very familiar with them. I think I got over those when I was about 12 but, obviously, you still have them. You're also fixated on male parts – that's fine but why are you always bringing them up in discussions – this is not a dating site, in case you wondered. You give the impression of having a thing for our PM and for Conservatives, in general. You really should discuss this with somebody who can help you.

  • East of Eden

    Unfortunately, you don't hide the less appealing qualities which you possess. It would be nice if you did. If you can't register as Parnel on this site, then why not use Terry1 on Janke's site. Actually, I kind of like the name Parnel – I guess the nickname, in your case, would be Parno – since you have some kind of sexual fixation.

  • East of Eden

    Given the tone of your comments, I highly doubt if you were even born during the Trudeau reign of economic ruination.

  • East of Eden

    “need of much more infrastructure than was available as none was really built from just after the postwar boom” – balderdash. You just proved that you were not around at that time. If you were, you would not have made such a stupid comment.

  • terry1

    “Wet dreams” among other expressions are figures of speech well used by many in the very heavy industrial sector I usually find myself in.

    Its obviously you haven't gotten over that fixation since its the second time you have mentioned.

    I don't need help. I need a new Prime minister who won't bring continued shame on our country.

  • terry1

    Well well a fortune teller……the stupidity in your comments about me is simply amazing. You are clearly not up to any intellectual task.

  • terry1

    so, if you're so knowledgeable why not tell me what infrastructure was built between the mid fifties and the late 60's. The seaway and dew line and a few other major projects were built in the early to mid 50's and then we had Diefenbaker and nothing happened for several years.

    You cannot just take pot shots w/o backing up your stupidity. I will be here to wake you up.

  • Kingston

    Well Terry1, the problem with you ordained vision and happyness, is the LPC is in the same situation as the conservative side in the ninties and early this century, 31 % say re-elect, and 59 say not to,,, well approx 18 % of those are NDP, 9% Block and 6% Green so that leaves your LPC with about 26% when the not sure isn't included. Now as always this battle will be over those not sure voters.. This is a straight forward question that was asked about Mr. Harper, I would wager if the election was today the majority of that nine percent would lean toward Mr. Harper which means we end up with the same type of house compostion we already have. As a side not, If the LPC forces and election over the EI issue, they will be punished as you have to remember that as of right now 91% of the Canadian work force is collecting of paycheck and it is not a huge issue to them. Numbers are so much fun are they not Terry when you actually look at them and put some thought into what they actually mean

  • terry1

    Well Kingston with all your hoi polloi talk, the fact remains that Harpo is unpopular,very unpopular, while Iggy is sitting back and letting him basically self destruct. The particular poll did not give any party breakdowns and you are simply guessestimating with your reformatort hat on. The current polls have both parties neck and neck with the Libs having 70% of the voters to chase while Harpo has what he has now. He has plateaued and hit a very tough glass ceiling. He is considered at best a minority PM and the country is now clamouring for majority government and the incumbent is getting no juice out of that. He should have opened up a five to seven point lead over the summer but has basically just hung on.

    You can wager all you want about the undecided but generally thye follow the trend and the
    trend is not going Harpo's way.

    You're right numbers are great fun especially when you look at them through the right prism.

    As for your thoughts about EI being an issue that would punish the Libs I would suggest you think about that again. They run on the left and the left is where the EI money generally goes. In fact EI is only one of many economic issues Iggy would hammer the reformatorts on.

    So please go back to your think tank and rewind those numbers with some degree of reality.

  • Kingston

    Ahhh Terry1,, I have to love the way you spin,, lol,, your actually quite humourous in your attempt to deflect, you say that the way I explained the numbers is partisean but you then use the same basic logic with your seventy percent logic..Will you at least admit that each of the parties have a basic level of support ant that is basically what we are seeing in this last poll by Nick, the Conservatives have a basic core level around 32-33%, the NDP around 18% and recent history shows the Greens around 6%. You take away the blocs roughly nine percent and add in the LPC of late traditional support of around 30 percent and you start to the see the importance of the other remaining say approx seven percent, they are for the most part middle income average Canadian with the low income as you mentioned for the most part already committed to the NDP or LPC. The middle income are for the most part still employed, with children, and they are more concerned with Taxes, pay their own way, and law and order issues and health care. The party that responds to these issues will be the winner of these peoples votes. The political brain trusts understand this Terry1, why you cannot is a mystery to me

  • wilson

    So, you are saying EoE is right, eh…

  • wilson

    'Parnell/Terry1: you seem fixated on sexual activities.'

    harrassment and sexual remarks to women commentors is common amongst Liberals who troll on Bloggingtories and
    Liberals who patrol on Libloggers,
    like Ti-Guy.

  • terry1

    wilson, if you say so it must be true………….then again we have seen your logic or complete lack thereof before so I take you stuff with as grain of salt.

  • terry1

    The Liberals have been running at between 31 and 34% so your logic is off kilter right off the bat. The undecideds, particularly in Quebec mostly come to the Libs. If the 800,000 lib voters who sat on their hands last time come to vote their % numbers will grow well beyond 33/34%.

    My logic is not partisan its simple math.

  • Gabby in QC

    “My logic is not partisan its simple math.”

    Picture me, “the lone Tory standing,” ROTFLOL!

  • Kingston

    In reality Terry1, those additional one or two percent you are referring to are coming at the expense of the NDP when they do come, not at the cost of the tory base. The Liberal base is still not decided on what to make of the new leader of the LPC as grumbling on Lib blogs indicated with a majority of comments seeming to indicate that the leader of the LPC is more conservative then the conservatives which unless he had an awaking similar to the bright light that Saul encountered in biblical times would seem to be accurate, based on his pervious writings and musing which no doubt will play a major role in any future election campaign. As you have stated you expect the undecided in la belle province to fall to the LPC, I wonder if this will hold true when the comments he has made about notre francos are on the airwaves .

  • Omanator

    Eazt of Eden , you are no the only one. I remember we got stuck with a 14% interest rate on our morgage. I truly don't want to go back to thoses days. Voting Liberal would mean just that. After all they have to stuff their own pockets as we have seen in the E-health scandal in To. The money has to come from somewhere. Our Pockets.

  • Liz

    It is very fitting to have a “Seinfeldian” media chomping at the bit for an election about nothing.

    There really is nothing at this time that would warrant triggering an election beyond a grab for power by those who don't have it, that's the coalition. They all have to band together to oust the Harper government and they all will have to have their demands met.

  • terry1

    I hope you don't roll far…..I am not reponsible for injuries and as we all know reformatorts like to sue.

  • terry1

    Kingston, in reality the Libs have scored between 33 and 43% in four of the last five elections with the Dion being a low point at 26% but with many many fewer voters truning out at the polls.

    so, the overall Liberal base is well over 30% based on historical numbers. The rest of your mish mash makes no sense.

    I would not worry about Iggy's so called conservative mode. He is accused of being a socialist for his EI stand. So what is he?
    I like it that people are confused about him right now as it will make them that much more curious about him.

  • terry1

    Liz J …so it was ok for Harpo to have his power grab moment last fall but no one else can have one now because you reformatorts are terrified about having an election you don't control……give your head a shake.

  • Kingston

    Terry1, Are you really trying to reach back to 93 to justify your math. i perfer the numbers over the last two years which are much more revelant. The numbers that PMJC pulled off in 93 have nothing to do with todays debate except for the fact that he made those numbers with a total rejection of PMBM govt even though he was no longer at the helm and PMKC was less then a stellar performer on the campaign trail as well election results are not base numbers, base numbers incase you need clairification are those committed voters that will vote for the party not necessarily the leader or the MP.

    As to the rest of your post of people being curious what Iggy is all about I believe I addressed that in previous post, if you do not define yourself then you will be defined by others, and the sad fact is, the CPC is without a doubt going to help Iggy be defined with his own words and written submissions.

    The LPC at this point is bringing nothing to the table that advances the interests of the country and if you can point something out please do because we are all waiting for something. The EI debacle is proof that the LPC has no idea what it is doing and has no clear direction for either itself or the country, so what do you propose the LPC will bring forth, a high speed train between Quebec City and London, national childcare (even liberals do not believe that any more), the Kelowna Accord, do you propose that might be trotted back out, or do you figure that he will propose the pipeline from the oils ands to southern ontario, wonder how that would help his numbers in respect to the enviromentlists within his own party.

    You can say what you want Terry1 but until Iggy says something or the LPC does, then he and they do not stand for anything but a desperate attempt to get back into power.

    Oh by the way Terry1, that ISPOS poll is out on NW, since numbers are so much fun, lets have your interpretation of those. It would seem that the CPC are pulling away unlike your previous comment today of how they were not.

  • Kingston

    Terry1, Are you really trying to reach back to 93 to justify your math. i perfer the numbers over the last two years which are much more revelant. The numbers that PMJC pulled off in 93 have nothing to do with todays debate except for the fact that he made those numbers with a total rejection of PMBM govt even though he was no longer at the helm and PMKC was less then a stellar performer on the campaign trail as well election results are not base numbers, base numbers incase you need clairification are those committed voters that will vote for the party not necessarily the leader or the MP.

    As to the rest of your post of people being curious what Iggy is all about I believe I addressed that in previous post, if you do not define yourself then you will be defined by others, and the sad fact is, the CPC is without a doubt going to help Iggy be defined with his own words and written submissions.

    The LPC at this point is bringing nothing to the table that advances the interests of the country and if you can point something out please do because we are all waiting for something. The EI debacle is proof that the LPC has no idea what it is doing and has no clear direction for either itself or the country, so what do you propose the LPC will bring forth, a high speed train between Quebec City and London, national childcare (even liberals do not believe that any more), the Kelowna Accord, do you propose that might be trotted back out, or do you figure that he will propose the pipeline from the oils ands to southern ontario, wonder how that would help his numbers in respect to the enviromentlists within his own party.

    You can say what you want Terry1 but until Iggy says something or the LPC does, then he and they do not stand for anything but a desperate attempt to get back into power.

    Oh by the way Terry1, that ISPOS poll is out on NW, since numbers are so much fun, lets have your interpretation of those. It would seem that the CPC are pulling away unlike your previous comment today of how they were not.

  • Kingston

    Terry1, Are you really trying to reach back to 93 to justify your math. i perfer the numbers over the last two years which are much more revelant. The numbers that PMJC pulled off in 93 have nothing to do with todays debate except for the fact that he made those numbers with a total rejection of PMBM govt even though he was no longer at the helm and PMKC was less then a stellar performer on the campaign trail as well election results are not base numbers, base numbers incase you need clairification are those committed voters that will vote for the party not necessarily the leader or the MP.

    As to the rest of your post of people being curious what Iggy is all about I believe I addressed that in previous post, if you do not define yourself then you will be defined by others, and the sad fact is, the CPC is without a doubt going to help Iggy be defined with his own words and written submissions.

    The LPC at this point is bringing nothing to the table that advances the interests of the country and if you can point something out please do because we are all waiting for something. The EI debacle is proof that the LPC has no idea what it is doing and has no clear direction for either itself or the country, so what do you propose the LPC will bring forth, a high speed train between Quebec City and London, national childcare (even liberals do not believe that any more), the Kelowna Accord, do you propose that might be trotted back out, or do you figure that he will propose the pipeline from the oils ands to southern ontario, wonder how that would help his numbers in respect to the enviromentlists within his own party.

    You can say what you want Terry1 but until Iggy says something or the LPC does, then he and they do not stand for anything but a desperate attempt to get back into power.

    Oh by the way Terry1, that ISPOS poll is out on NW, since numbers are so much fun, lets have your interpretation of those. It would seem that the CPC are pulling away unlike your previous comment today of how they were not.

  • Kingston

    Terry1, Are you really trying to reach back to 93 to justify your math. i perfer the numbers over the last two years which are much more revelant. The numbers that PMJC pulled off in 93 have nothing to do with todays debate except for the fact that he made those numbers with a total rejection of PMBM govt even though he was no longer at the helm and PMKC was less then a stellar performer on the campaign trail as well election results are not base numbers, base numbers incase you need clairification are those committed voters that will vote for the party not necessarily the leader or the MP.

    As to the rest of your post of people being curious what Iggy is all about I believe I addressed that in previous post, if you do not define yourself then you will be defined by others, and the sad fact is, the CPC is without a doubt going to help Iggy be defined with his own words and written submissions.

    The LPC at this point is bringing nothing to the table that advances the interests of the country and if you can point something out please do because we are all waiting for something. The EI debacle is proof that the LPC has no idea what it is doing and has no clear direction for either itself or the country, so what do you propose the LPC will bring forth, a high speed train between Quebec City and London, national childcare (even liberals do not believe that any more), the Kelowna Accord, do you propose that might be trotted back out, or do you figure that he will propose the pipeline from the oils ands to southern ontario, wonder how that would help his numbers in respect to the enviromentlists within his own party.

    You can say what you want Terry1 but until Iggy says something or the LPC does, then he and they do not stand for anything but a desperate attempt to get back into power.

    Oh by the way Terry1, that ISPOS poll is out on NW, since numbers are so much fun, lets have your interpretation of those. It would seem that the CPC are pulling away unlike your previous comment today of how they were not.

  • Kingston

    Terry1, Can you please provide some foundation to you your assertion that the CPC are terrified of an election, I fail to see it, I did see the Iggy and LPC back down from their numerous threats over the last eight months to bring down the govt with the most pathic being in June. Mr Harper saved Iggy and June from a rookie mistake and you are not being honest with yourself if you do not acknowledge it.

  • Kingston

    Stephen, I have no idea why that posted four times,,sorry friend, could you clean that up for me

  • Liz

    Liz J?