Liberals: election now, before the economy gets better

In politics, one is usually driven to action to prevent a problem from developing, or to act to make something better when it is going in the wrong direction.

On the website of Michael Ignatieff’s war room chief Warren Kinsella, we learn why the Liberals are itching for an election now:

[In] politics, as in war, you attack when your opponent is weak, not strong. … Right now – due to the recession, due to a stumblebum Tory team, due to their leader who nobody likes – we know the other side is really, really weak. In a few months – due to a economy rebounding, mainly – they could be strong. Go with what you know is the reality, not what you hope may be the reality.

Of course, this logic is sound; if your enemy is weak, attack your enemy. This is strategy 101 and Iggy’s guy is among the best in the professional political class. However, it is difficult for Michael Ignatieff to say that he wants parliament to work when Liberal strategy reveals itself as ambition at the expense of jobs and the economy. If the economy is on track to rebound, why endanger this by throwing the helmsman overboard with an election? Prime Minister Stephen Harper released his second report on the Economic Action Plan to see Canada through this difficult economic period. Conservatives have revealed that 80% of planned stimulus is already out of the gate and those shovels are in the ground. It was also revealed that increased EI payments accounted for a large chunk of the deficit.

It will be difficult for the Liberals to go to an election on the economy for the following reasons.

  1. their chief election strategist explains that the economy will get better under the Conservatives and that the reason why Canadians should go to an election is because the Liberals don’t want the Tories to get the credit.
  2. they’ve complained that the stimulus money isn’t flowing when in fact it is.
  3. they’ve complained about the size of deficit when their only major plan for the economy is to increase EI eligibility (ballooning the deficit)
  4. Michael Ignatieff has written 17 books but at most a few scant paragraphs on economic theory while Stephen Harper has a graduate degree in economics.
  5. Ignatieff’s friends in the White House are racking up substantially larger deficits per capita and are doing nothing to stop an allied congress from destroying the Canadian economy with its “Buy American” protectionism.
  6. The Liberals have not produced any substantial pushback outside of Parliament save a boring two minute Youtube lecture on the politics of nice from Dr. Ignatieff. And on the economy? Grit girl Youtube ads? Torytube it ain’t, Warren.
  7. The Liberals don’t have a strong record themselves of balancing their own books. In substantial debt themselves under Dion and still posting underwhelming fundraising numbers under Ignatieff, how can the Liberals manage our pocketbooks when they cannot manage theirs?
  8. Conservative scandals highlighted by the opposition have not been on the economy. Raitt-gate will not turn the average voter. The scandal regarding Raitt’s unfortunate private remarks about cancer may indeed represent a “sexy” opportunity for career advancement for Dr. Ignatieff, however, he’ll find that the average Canadian voter doesn’t find this inside the Queensway stuff all too sexy or even relevant to them. Isotope supply is relevant, but a tape recording is not.
  9. If Michael Ignatieff wants to run an election on EI, he should wait a few years in order to pay as much into the system as the average Canadian voter. Forgive the talking point, but the man was outside of Canada for 34 years.
  10. During an election, Liberals will without fail propose social spending to fix the economy. This puts them on the ugly side of the wedge that is the $50 billion deficit.

Comments

comments

  • Bocanut

    Proof or a link to this statement would be nice:
    “Sadly, most of the real economists seem to disagree with him.”

  • terry1

    Well Gabby the lone Tory in QC……..pucker up Iggy has called a press conference for 1100AM tomorrow Monday. Lets hope he is taking Harper down.

  • Liz J

    Raise the bar with a resident Liberal spokesperson insulting us with impunity? We obviously won't agree on much politically, but it's human nature to react to such treatment. It's specifically difficult to ignore some which are laced with condescension . It certainly doesn't bring out the best in people and ruins a decent debate.

    I agree, raise the bar, some pretty juvenile stuff, not far from schoolyard quality.

    We got a fine example of how low the bar can go when Kinsella and the Liberals pulled a toy dinosaur to use against Stockwell Day. The shameful treatment given a very fine Canadian, Preston Manning was also from some of the same sources, with the same line of thought. It's hardly surprising we're dealing with the same tactics on the Conservative blogs.

  • MaryT

    As stated Aug 1 is a civic holiday and many people are back in their home town for the celebrations, or travelling to somewhere else. So, if an election was held Aug 2, a lot of people wont be in their riding. Will they vote at the advanced polls, or say, forget it. Holidays are planned and booked weeks and months in advance, so that will take away a lot of voters. August is also when one is getting ready for back to school sales. Spending money will make them realize a lot of stuff could be higher re GST cuts. And will all those media people be angry at a working summer, riding the buses/planes etc.
    I just hope that the PM gets a strong supporter to accompany him during the campaign so we get the truth, not the bias. Do the liberals have a plane yet. Are the ndp still needing money to mount a full campaign aka the e-mail they send Susan Delacour (as a strong supporter).
    Duceppe will eat Iggy alive in Quebec, and Layton will take him on in Ont. This time liberals will have to fight 3 opponents rather than one. If he gets a free ride, we know the coalition is hiding in the buses.

  • Gayle

    I would guess that works in the favour of the opposition. People who want a change are more likely to ensure they vote.

    “This time liberals will have to fight 3 opponents rather than one.”

    Hate to break it to you, but the LPC have been fighting three opponents for years now.

  • Beer and Popcorn

    More Lieberal Lie$

  • batb

    Gayle: “Hate to break it to you, but the LPC have been fighting three opponents for years now.”

    Yeah, Gayle I agree with you and they're not necessarily the CPC, the NDP, and the Bloc. They're humility, grace, and service all of which the LPC have been running from for a long, long time.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Conservatives spin too!

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Dr. Ignatieff will inform us of our summer schedules on Monday…

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Ignatieff has not yet fought a real battle that he has won. The only real contest was against Stephane Dion, which he lost.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    That's a great line!

    To win a small minority they would have to add 40+ seats! And, would we see a coalition after that?

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    To be fair, the big bank stuff on the Raitt tapes was heresay…

    further, there are donation limits and new laws on lending.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    She determined that upon the PM's advice, the parliamentary session should end. She cannot prorogue Parliament after the PM loses a confidence vote.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Martin argued that he could ignore the confidence vote because it was formed in committee and not put forward as a strict motion in the House if I remember correctly.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Generally, the public forgets why an election is called 1-2 days after the writ is dropped.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    this is an interesting thesis. Is the media biased towards having an election for ad revenues from election ads?

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Thanks Terry

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Booyakasha!

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    er… “Shit From Hell”

  • terry1

    Bocanut….I say its a good idea to be proactive whic is what WK advocates. The fast he attacks your useless leader makes me happy and I hav eno qualms about it.

  • terry1

    B&P…is that your best shot…………..prety damn weak!!!!

  • terry1

    BatB, so what is Harpercrite fighting? His own ego and his stupidity in assuming the Libs would lie down in front of his frontal attacks?

  • scanoo

    but the lieberals are the masters at it – have done it so well over the course of my lifetime, that most governments have been liberal – I remember well when they destroyed Deifenbaker – Clark ? well you know that one – Mulroney ? – gawd they are still at it – Harper ? watch them brag about how he is hated all across the land – how do you hate this guy ? – best discipline, best wife, best sounding, family, smart man ever in 24 sussex – the CPC is learning, but ever so slowly – what is liberal policy ? hmmmmm – my belief is it is time to truly rebuild this great party of Laurier – that is the only way to give Canada a real choice

  • MaryT

    Time for Gayle and Terry to put up or shut up. Where will Iggy gain seats, who will they defeat. Other than when Brian was decimated by his one time voters, what is the greatest seat loss for any party.
    Libs have lost seats in the last 3 elections. As for complaining about PMSH calling an election, how about Paul Martin, he had a majority with 2 yrs left in his mandate. Why did he call an election. Other than pride that he wanted a larger majority than Chretain had ever got. OOPS, something happened on the way to the polls. He ended up with a minority as punishment for calling an unnecessary election.
    Funny how Terry forgets that.
    So, name the mps that will be defeated by the liberals. Name the liberals that will be re-elected across Canada. Bet you can't or wont cause your all hot air. You will all be ignored if an election is called. We wont allow you to change the topic. Oh, and Codere says they might support the budget.
    They ae covering their bases.

  • Keith

    If the Opposition parties do not pass the finance estimates on Friday Jun 19th, that will be tantamount to a vote of non-confidence. If the writ is dropped the next day and 36 days minimum required for an election, we will be voting on July 28th.

    If the estimates pass with the cooperation of the BQ or NDP, that would force Ignatieff to table a non-confidence motion on the Liberal 'opposition' day of June 23rd … plus 36 days would push the election date to August 4th right after the Civic Holidays.

    If it appears that the NDP and BQ will support their past coalition partner for a June 19th no confidence vote, expect to see the airwaves flooded with CPC election-ready ads this coming week.

    If Ignatieff chickens out of an election this summer, expect to see CPC MPs criss crossing the countries announcing stimulus programs non-stop … and then when Parliament resumes in September, a whole new batch of CPC ads defining and deriding Ignatieff and the lugubrious Liberals.

  • MrEd

    Actually it shows that because the laws were re-writen by expensive Liberal Legal teams they were within their rights to pilfer from the cookie jar… or more perhaps on point… at least the Liberal appointed Judges in the Liberal loaded courts of 35+ year of Liberal apointed Judges read the Liberal writen law that way…

    Sadly the rulings came out after the fact the Liberals had been turfed to the curb in 2008 and now in 2009 when that 51 billion would have been available to assist in our economic down turn and increased unemployment rates that money is all gone…but we effectively had 11 years of hiden extra taxes on our paychecks…

    A smarter plan would have been to invest it like a pension fund so it could have grown against such a time as today… or invested it and drawn revinue from it to limit the interest on national debit or reduce UI payments…oh wait, sorry, they're EI payments after they rewrote the laws and program…

  • MrEd

    Again Terry1 doesn't denigh…must be true

  • terry1

    Mr.Ed, so you mean like the lawyers who wrote the four year election law with its loophole that allowed Harpercrite to call an election last fall.

    The EI money is clearly tax money but has an employer tax as well and thus the need to keep a separate tally. If the $51BB had not been used to pay down our national debt by that amount and more we would, with your plan had money in a bank account and would still be paying down $51BB of national debt. Senseless and just like other tory populist ideological garbage. The cuts to GST created a deficit and you think that EI money should have done the same. What a load of hooey.

    The real rainy day money for Canadians that is our guaanteed CPP and OAS pensions were set aside by the Chretien Liberals into its own separately managed fund. The pension fund unlike a EI fund has specific actuarial accounting that knows at any time what it owes Canadians and therefore the funding formula is set. EI funds are simply part of government expenses and estimated everry year based on unemplyment rates etc.It is also used for maternity/paternity leaves and is kind of like medicare. I suppose you would like medicare taxes set aside in a separate fund also with your logic.

    Paul Martin did the right thing with EI money and this government has not changed it and shows no signs of wanting to, which you fail to note.

    Next populist nonsense please.

  • MrEd

    Actually Terry1…my plan said invest it not put it in the TD Bank… I also said that the money was stolen which is what the whole “wrongfuly taken” means but in small words for certain limited people to understand… As for EI being a tax…last I checked it’s called Employment Insurance….I can’t seem to rearange those words or letters to spell out tax…

    the laws were changed under a majority gov’t…therefore it was easy to push through the Liberal house and Liberal Senate because they could out vote the opposition… Harpers fixed election law went into effect in a minority gov’t…it made it past the house and Liberal based Senate… complaining about the loophole because you weren’t the first to exploit it is just bad grapes and carrys about as much weight as a wet noodle…

    More Limited Liberal/Leftist comebacks please…

    I will say one thing though that you’re right about indirectly… it is fun watching a liberals onion unwrap… gives a better understanding how to twist issues and logic into something that turns into hate a fear and always seems to turn to a grade 3 arguement of name calling and limited concepts or willingness to look beyond the border of Toronto… I’m guessing that’s where you have lived out your entire adult life not knowing Edmonton is in the West and Quebec is in the East

  • MrEd

    Actually Terry1…my plan said invest it not put it in the TD Bank… I also said that the money was stolen which is what the whole “wrongfuly taken” means but in small words for certain limited people to understand… As for EI being a tax…last I checked it’s called Employment Insurance….I can’t seem to rearange those words or letters to spell out tax…

    the laws were changed under a majority gov’t…therefore it was easy to push through the Liberal house and Liberal Senate because they could out vote the opposition… Harpers fixed election law went into effect in a minority gov’t…it made it past the house and Liberal based Senate… complaining about the loophole because you weren’t the first to exploit it is just bad grapes and carrys about as much weight as a wet noodle…

    More Limited Liberal/Leftist comebacks please…

    I will say one thing though that you’re right about indirectly… it is fun watching a liberals onion unwrap… gives a better understanding how to twist issues and logic into something that turns into hate a fear and always seems to turn to a grade 3 arguement of name calling and limited concepts or willingness to look beyond the border of Toronto… I’m guessing that’s where you have lived out your entire adult life not knowing Edmonton is in the West and Quebec is in the East

  • MrEd

    Actually Terry1…my plan said invest it not put it in the TD Bank… I also said that the money was stolen which is what the whole “wrongfuly taken” means but in small words for certain limited people to understand… As for EI being a tax…last I checked it’s called Employment Insurance….I can’t seem to rearange those words or letters to spell out tax…

    the laws were changed under a majority gov’t…therefore it was easy to push through the Liberal house and Liberal Senate because they could out vote the opposition… Harpers fixed election law went into effect in a minority gov’t…it made it past the house and Liberal based Senate… complaining about the loophole because you weren’t the first to exploit it is just bad grapes and carrys about as much weight as a wet noodle…

    More Limited Liberal/Leftist comebacks please…

    I will say one thing though that you’re right about indirectly… it is fun watching a liberals onion unwrap… gives a better understanding how to twist issues and logic into something that turns into hate a fear and always seems to turn to a grade 3 arguement of name calling and limited concepts or willingness to look beyond the border of Toronto… I’m guessing that’s where you have lived out your entire adult life not knowing Edmonton is in the West and Quebec is in the East

  • Bocanut

    Let's not forget the public battles between themselves.

  • scanoo

    you know, I happen to like our current prime minister – he seems to be a smart, fine man, with a wonderful family, not spinning everything 24/7 (like his predecessors), and doing a rather good job – yet in this, and many other, blogs, we are subjected to him being called every name in the book – idiot, liar, pathalogical liar, “harpercrite”, most hated – on and on – perhaps I should not have called them “dorks” but is it really so unexpected ?
    I have begun to believe that we must at least voice our concerns about the non-stop bullying of the left, and their msm allies, or we must pay the ultimate price – a loss to the liberals, and their hands back on the treasury – to turn the other cheek is cowardly

  • scanoo

    you know, I happen to like our current prime minister – he seems to be a smart, fine man, with a wonderful family, not spinning everything 24/7 (like his predecessors), and doing a rather good job – yet in this, and many other, blogs, we are subjected to him being called every name in the book – idiot, liar, pathalogical liar, “harpercrite”, most hated – on and on – perhaps I should not have called them “dorks” but is it really so unexpected ?
    I have begun to believe that we must at least voice our concerns about the non-stop bullying of the left, and their msm allies, or we must pay the ultimate price – a loss to the liberals, and their hands back on the treasury – to turn the other cheek is cowardly

  • scanoo

    you know, I happen to like our current prime minister – he seems to be a smart, fine man, with a wonderful family, not spinning everything 24/7 (like his predecessors), and doing a rather good job – yet in this, and many other, blogs, we are subjected to him being called every name in the book – idiot, liar, pathalogical liar, “harpercrite”, most hated – on and on – perhaps I should not have called them “dorks” but is it really so unexpected ?
    I have begun to believe that we must at least voice our concerns about the non-stop bullying of the left, and their msm allies, or we must pay the ultimate price – a loss to the liberals, and their hands back on the treasury – to turn the other cheek is cowardly

  • Skinny

    I don't know what the fuss is all about. The economy, while at the moment has stopped it's freefall, isn't about to get better. There's nothing wrong with expressing optimism, in fact this is a good thing to help it from freefalling further. Obvious point.

    But the economy, is going to have some real rough patches ahead yet. In fact, I'd say far rougher than we've seen at this point. This is the 3rd recession I've lived and worked through, and this ain't over, by a long shot.

    So if the liberals, are smart enough to know this obvious point, which I suspect they are, I think this notion that the liberals want to pull the plug before the economy gets better is just sheer stupidity. Not that I wouldn't think a party of any stripe would pull something like that, but it simply isn't the case here.

    You'd have to have been dropped on your head to think we're on the way up from here.

  • Skinny

    I don't know what the fuss is all about. The economy, while at the moment has stopped it's freefall, isn't about to get better. There's nothing wrong with expressing optimism, in fact this is a good thing to help it from freefalling further. Obvious point.

    But the economy, is going to have some real rough patches ahead yet. In fact, I'd say far rougher than we've seen at this point. This is the 3rd recession I've lived and worked through, and this ain't over, by a long shot.

    So if the liberals, are smart enough to know this obvious point, which I suspect they are, I think this notion that the liberals want to pull the plug before the economy gets better is just sheer stupidity. Not that I wouldn't think a party of any stripe would pull something like that, but it simply isn't the case here.

    You'd have to have been dropped on your head to think we're on the way up from here.