To the McGuintys is Dion a four letter word in Ottawa South?

Ottawa South is the federal riding of David McGuinty and the provincial riding of his brother, the Premier of Ontario.

On Monday, the Liberal Premier of Ontario Dalton McGuinty refused to endorse the federal Liberal leader Stephane Dion and even passed on endorsing the man’s key policy plank. From the Toronto Star,

McGuinty vowed to remain neutral other than campaigning with his brother, Liberal incumbent David McGuinty (Ottawa South).

While McGuinty said his aides would be allowed to help federal Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion “on their own time,” he took a veiled shot at the federal party’s Green Shift carbon-emission reduction program, which would tax fossil fuel consumption in exchange for income and corporate tax cuts. “I’ve got my own particular approach when it comes to dealing with carbon emissions. We believe in a cap-and-trade system.”

David McGuinty is Stephane Dion’s shadow minister of the environment. However, at the time of this writing, on his campaign website you will david-mcguinty of Dion’s showcase policy, the Green Shift. The younger brother of the Premier also supported Michael Ignatieff during the leadership race and praised him for wanting to put a price on carbon, essentially what Dion is proposing by using the taxation powers of the federal government. So why no mention of the Green Shift by Dion’s Green Lieutenant in Parliament?

Though David has eyed running for leadership of the federal party in the past, it is his brother Dalton who may be positioning himself for a run for the top Liberal job in the country (until recently that used to also almost always include the job of PM itself — it comes with a bonus and a drafty house). Dalton McGuinty is the first Liberal in Ontario to win back-to-back majority governments in 70 years and before the economy slips and as Ontario flirts dangerously with have-not status, Dalton may be looking to upgrade. As a Liberal with governing experience he would provide solid competition but clearer red-orange contrast to the presumed Liberal front-runner post-Dion, the former NDP Premier of Ontario Bob Rae. After years of government at Queen’s Park, McGuinty would also bring a solid camp of support to a future leadership race against the numbers that are grouping behind Rae.

So are the McGuintys looking to run their own campaign to Dump Dion? Though still winnable by Conservatives if they get out the vote with their candidate Elie Salibi (a Lebanese Canadian with solid community support), Ottawa South is considered safe by Liberal strategists. The McGuintys may be looking to give their 1% effort for Stephane Dion while setting up brother Dalton for a shot at the PMO.

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  • Liz J

    David McGuinty is right beside Dion, smiling and clapping at his every word. Gimme a break. McGuinty is the number one head nodder in the HOC, haven't heard a sensible comment from him yet. The people of Ottawa South must be living in some kind of bubble or doing the Toronto thing, brain free Liberal voting.

    Dalton for the PMO? Surely you jest!

  • http://grumpyvoter.blogspot.com The Grumpy Voter

    As I mentioned on my blog yesterday, I believe there are four or possibly five separate campaigns going on right now instead of one national campaign – namely, Iggy, Rae, Kennedy, Martha and possibly Justin. Look on those sites… see a pic of Dion anywhere? I sure as heck don't.

  • Cool Blue

    I’m curious why Dion never visited Ottawa-Orleans or Glengarry-Prescott-Russell, both former Liberal strongholds which went to the CPC by a few hundred votes.

    He was stuck in Eastern Ontario and western Quebec on a bus so why not stop there? He seemed to only go to safe Liberal ridings.

    Is it because the local campaign are trying to hide their leader? The website of Dan Boudria the Lib candidate in GPR makes no mention of Dion or the Green Shift!

  • http://nikonthenumbers.com/profile/648714 Taylor Cutforth

    Funny how Dalton still tries to blame the down turn of the Ontario's manufacturing issues on the federal Conservatives who have been stuck with a minority government while Dalton has had a free reign to take any measure he may like to fix the actual problems.

    It is Dalton's government that is in a better position to make a difference. He could be doing plenty more than whta little he has been given the political capital he seems to possess.

  • anon

    Dalton McGuinty will never become PM. He has broken too many promises as premier, particularly his promise NOT to raise taxes if elected and then legislating in the BIGGEST tax grab in Ontario’s history—the $3 Billion Health Tax.

    However, the ability to break one’s promise is an “attribute” that will make him VERY attractive to the Liberal Party, should he decide to run in the next leadership race, which should be in about, oh, 8-10 months from now. (The timing is in doubt, but whether there will be one begining immediatley after Oct 14 is NOT!)

    You see, getting elected (pulling the wool over people’s eyes) and breaking promises—especially right out of the chute—is the dream of BECOMING a Liberal. The Bigger the broken promise, the better! The more revered within Liberal ranks you are. That’s what people don’t seem to understand. It’s like a rite of passage. Like gangs have initiations for prospective new members, the same holds true for the Liberal Party. Liberal PM’s breaking promises once elected to form gov’t is a way to show your underlings that you have the mettle to be a strong, viable LIBERAL PM—someone with no principle or integrity. McGuinty fits that mold. And he’ll appeal greatly to the core 25% of the electorate who will vote Liberal no matter what. Getting the other 15% or so needed to form a majority is another matter altogether and would be a greater challenge… but the payoff is that satisified feeling Liberals get when they have successfully pulled the wool over the electorates’ eyes, knowing voters can’t do anything for at least 4 more years. And by then, the leader can come up with new schemes to try and buy that same 15% off with their own money—yet another challenge that, if successful a second time, gives Liberals another sense of reward and entitlement.

  • http://loreweaver.btblogs.ca Lore_Weaver

    Dalton v Harper. Now *that* would be a contest worth watching.

  • bennji

    Live in Ottawa now, but grew up in Glengarry-Prescott-Russell. Couple of things you have to keep in mind

    First, maybe you missed the BIG icon on the top right corner with a picture of Dion and a hyperlink back to the liberal web-site.

    Second, you have to keep in mind that in GNR, the Boudria name goes a long way. Dan's father Don was the MP for that riding from 1984 – 2006. He was very well liked, and both he and his family are very well respected in the community.

    Third, most of the towns and communities in the riding are Francophone (with the exception of some on the south side of the 417). I will give you that the Tories have done a bang up job getting support in Quebec, but have done very little iin supporting La francophonie outside of the province. We will know for sure on Oct. 14, but I am thinking that may come back to bite him in the butt.

    As for Ottawa-Orleans, I am anxious to see what happens there, as well as in Gatineau. Both of these riding are heavy with federal public servants. After adscam, both ridings dumped their Grit MP's (for a Con. in OO and a BQ in Gat.), again, not sure if this will reverse given the antagonistic approach that has been taken with the public service.

    None of these comments are meant to be partisan, just offering some insights from someone who knows the area quite well.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca stephentaylor

    The hyperlink and image are part of the standard Liberal campaign template that they produce for candidates via a cookie-cutter website process. McGuinty filled in the rest.

  • bennji

    Yup and all parties do it, albeit some much better than others.

    I have to tell you that i am blown away with the Conservatives use of technology. Kudos to whoever designed the myvirtual campaign section. Bang up job.

  • Andrew

    I live in the riding and agree with your comment about Ottawa South being winnable by the CPC this time around. Salibi is a very attractive candidate and will earn much more support in the ethnic portions of the riding than Cutler did last time. My sense is that McGuinty is too complaent about his prspects.

    As for Glengarry, Prescott Russell, one should not discount how hard the current MP Pierre Lemieux has worked over the past three years to solidy his base. My friends who live in teh ridin say he has turned up at virtually every single community event that has taken place in the past two years.

  • Beer and Popcorn

    I think strategically Dalton McGuinty is likely what they Liberal$ should try to step back from – huge Toronto-centric support and less solid support from the rural and suburban ridings. I don't think his latte-liberal smugness would sell as well in the West as it does in Toronto Centre. The next election shouldn't be about shoring up GTA support – wouldn't it be more likely trying to recover from the beating they are going to get in this election everywhere outside the GTA?

    Maybe Svend Robinson is the man for the job?

  • Samir Ahmed

    Stephen – I think you are bang on. Everyone knows that the McGuinty family considers themselves to be the equivalent to the Bush Family, the Kennedy's and even the Clintons. I know for a fact that this family wants nothing less to keep Ottawa South in their family forever… And, it is true that David seriously considered running for leadership – what a big joke and the only reason he supported Ignatieff was because he seemed to be the one who would win. Well, despite that, David the environment critic and often touted as a cabinet minister material… But, he's raging with jealousy because he knows that his borther Dalton has a better chance of leading the federal party than he does. And, I do agree that McGuint is positioning himself for a run at the Party's top job, but only after 2011, and depending on what happens in the provincial election. The real dilemma is what happens to David… Once Dalton wins the Leadership, he's gonna want Ottawa South. David has ot step down. Does he have the guts to run provincially???

  • Cool Red

    “””””The website of Dan Boudria the Lib candidate in GPR makes no mention of Dion or the Green Shift!””””””
    Maybe this candidate is more of a people in his ridding person than a representant of his leader. I'm serious…. Have you seen the web page of Pierre Lemieux?? All National and nothing for the ridding.

  • Cool Red

    “””””””””””””Is it because the local campaign are trying to hide their leader? The website of Dan Boudria the Lib candidate in GPR makes no mention of Dion or the Green Shift!””””””””””””””””

    I don't think this is the case. Looking at both websites (Boudria and Lemieux), I find that Boudria is working more for the people of GPR than Lemieux who has nothing on his website for us local residents. He has by the last video on Boudria's page, the solid support of 5 out of 7 mayors in GPR who turn after turn tell out loud that Lemieux has never found any cash for projects compared to the Liberal provincial GVT who worked hand in hand with every town in GPR and brought them money and support.

    These comments comming from the Mayors show's me that Lemieux is just a puppet to Harper and that nothing will change if Lemieux is re-elected. Just look at his website and you will see what I mean.

  • Cool Red

    “””””The website of Dan Boudria the Lib candidate in GPR makes no mention of Dion or the Green Shift!””””””
    Maybe this candidate is more of a people in his ridding person than a representant of his leader. I'm serious…. Have you seen the web page of Pierre Lemieux?? All National and nothing for the ridding.

  • Cool Red

    “””””””””””””Is it because the local campaign are trying to hide their leader? The website of Dan Boudria the Lib candidate in GPR makes no mention of Dion or the Green Shift!””””””””””””””””

    I don't think this is the case. Looking at both websites (Boudria and Lemieux), I find that Boudria is working more for the people of GPR than Lemieux who has nothing on his website for us local residents. He has by the last video on Boudria's page, the solid support of 5 out of 7 mayors in GPR who turn after turn tell out loud that Lemieux has never found any cash for projects compared to the Liberal provincial GVT who worked hand in hand with every town in GPR and brought them money and support.

    These comments comming from the Mayors show's me that Lemieux is just a puppet to Harper and that nothing will change if Lemieux is re-elected. Just look at his website and you will see what I mean.