• calgary_junkie

    Maybe Genco should heed the advice of a Liberal partisan, Jim, who posted this on a
    Liberal blog

    … HOWEVER, I suggeset we do NOT run with the idea that Fantino is a parachute candidate who doesn’t know the riding. He does actually live there:

    Torstar link

    “Fantino — who lives in Vaughan’s Italian enclave of Woodbridge”

    I think he’s lived there for awhile actually and I don’t think people would have been encouraging him to run for Vaughan mayor if he didn’t know the issues or was actually a “parachute”

    All parties have had parachute candidates (Stephen Harper, Martha Hall Findlay, Bob Rae, Jack Layton)so I find that line could blow up in our faces.

    I think we can win, but let’s not peg our hopes on lines that could backfire or presume that Fantino doesn’t know the riding that well.

  • Liz J

    Wonder if the TorStar will get itself up from the huge knockdown it suffered, after it’s support for the loser of the Toronto Mayoralty flopped, in time to slander and badmouth Fantino?

  • Gabby in QC

    Does Michael Ignatieff qualify as one of those “superstar candidates”?

    And on candidates actually living in the riding they represent … why has no one asked perennially outraged NDP MP for Winnipeg Centre Pat Martin where he actually lives? I’ve read he lives in Vancouver — not that there’s anything wrong with it — and a couple of weeks ago, QP (the CTV program) interviewed Martin from there. So, where does he actually live?

  • Gabby in QC

    Does Michael Ignatieff qualify as one of those “superstar candidates”?

    And on candidates actually living in the riding they represent … why has no one asked perennially outraged NDP MP for Winnipeg Centre Pat Martin where he actually lives? I’ve read he lives in Vancouver — not that there’s anything wrong with it — and a couple of weeks ago, QP (the CTV program) interviewed Martin from there. So, where does he actually live?

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    Ignatieff has been a great asset to the CPC. He was able to beat Dion in falling behind Layton in nearly half the time. He also has managed to win the most absent MP for this session.

  • batb

    When has irony or subtlety ever been a hallmark of the Liberal$?

    Liberal and subtlety together is an oxymoron.

    The Liberal$ more than any other Canadian political party have played the “superstar” card over and over again, parachuting candidates into ridings and luring politicians from other parties to cross the floor. A few examples? Justin Trudeau, Belinda Stronach, Bob Rae, and Michael Ignatieff himself.

    ‘The pot calling the kettle black — but to recognize that, one would have to understand irony, something completely lacking in the Liberal kit bag.

  • Liz J

    He sure must be considered a “superstar candidate”, the Liberals lured him back to Canada on the wings of opportunity, promising him the leadership and surefire,in their optimism, the PM of the country.

    So, Ignatieff had to bail from another country to make his parachute jump. In the process he bumped out a popular MP, Jean Augustine, who had no intentions of resigning. So it was a bump before the grind which he continues to this day, grinding away and making little progress toward the ultimate goal he was assured would be his.

    They may wish to block out their own history of luring people to cross the floor with promises of Cabinet seats but they did it and it’s legal, it’s easy for them to forget and the public to forget as well because the media simply ignores it, not so for the Conservatives, as we recall when David Emerson crossed the floor, he was treated like dirt by his former Liberal cohorts AND their buddies in the media.

  • Liz J

    How’s this for convoluted reasoning: “Ignatieff thinks the Ford win is a clear warning Harper.”

    I really think he needs to go off somewhere and really give his head a hard shake, must be full of cobwebs left over from the halls of academia. He’s not really into active politics and the masses just aren’t into him.

    I can suggest a good Saturday read for Iggy from today’s Ottawa Sun by Michael Coren:”Diversity bites back.” Bob Rae should read it too , he is quoted in that column for his condescending remark: “I don’t really know Rob Ford” he said. “We live in different worlds.”

  • Liz J

    How’s this for convoluted reasoning: “Ignatieff thinks the Ford win is a clear warning Harper.”

    I really think he needs to go off somewhere and really give his head a hard shake, must be full of cobwebs left over from the halls of academia. He’s not really into active politics and the masses just aren’t into him.

    I can suggest a good Saturday read for Iggy from today’s Ottawa Sun by Michael Coren:”Diversity bites back.” Bob Rae should read it too , he is quoted in that column for his condescending remark: “I don’t really know Rob Ford” he said. “We live in different worlds.”

  • batb

    Coren’s article:

    http://www.ottawasun.com/columnists/

    Iggy’s reading off the Liberal Script, handed to him every week by the backroom boys — and not only is he not really into active politics, Liz, he’s a bad actor. Nothing any politician right of centre does can be congratulated, accepted, or endorsed. Anything accomplished by a politician other than one of theirs (which would include the Dippers and Blockheads, because they’re on the left of the political spectrum) has got to be put in a negative light.

    It’s become so predictable as to be laughable, in a rueful kind of way. Yeah, yeah, Iggy, do your best; a win for Rob Ford spells gloom and doom for Prime Minister Harper. You said it, it’s gotta be true.

    ‘Only problem with this meme is that Iggy, the Librano$, their lapdogs in the media, and other hangers-on have been wrong nearly every time. This whole neck-and-neck thing between Smitherman and Ford in the last week of the campaign was pure media hype and spin, desperately hoping they could entice some voters teetering between the two to, possibly, cast their vote for Smitherman who didn’t seem such a loser if the fairytale that he and Ford were really close could be believed.

    The Liberal$ have tried this ploy every time and it’s always backfired on them. Do they think we’re stupid? Do they think we’re deaf and blind, too?

    These are the sad dregs of rampant left-lib entitlement. The Liberal tactics are not working, they’re pretending that they do, and they continue to roll out the same old negativity towards anyone who doesn’t think like they do. It’s a losing strategy — and lucky for us, they haven’t figured it out yet!

    As for Bob Rae living in a different world than Rob Ford: Yup. For one thing, Bob Rae lives in the tony Baby Point section of West-end Toronto and Ford just lives in Etobicoke. For another, Bob Rae has no idea how the rest of us live, on limited budgets, wondering how we can afford another tax hike and how we can stretch our resources to pay all of our bills each month, whereas Rob Ford’s with the wo/man on the street who wants fewer taxes and better representation at City Hall.

  • batb

    Coren’s article:

    http://www.ottawasun.com/columnists/

    Iggy’s reading off the Liberal Script, handed to him every week by the backroom boys — and not only is he not really into active politics, Liz, he’s a bad actor. Nothing any politician right of centre does can be congratulated, accepted, or endorsed. Anything accomplished by a politician other than one of theirs (which would include the Dippers and Blockheads, because they’re on the left of the political spectrum) has got to be put in a negative light.

    It’s become so predictable as to be laughable, in a rueful kind of way. Yeah, yeah, Iggy, do your best; a win for Rob Ford spells gloom and doom for Prime Minister Harper. You said it, it’s gotta be true.

    ‘Only problem with this meme is that Iggy, the Librano$, their lapdogs in the media, and other hangers-on have been wrong nearly every time. This whole neck-and-neck thing between Smitherman and Ford in the last week of the campaign was pure media hype and spin, desperately hoping they could entice some voters teetering between the two to, possibly, cast their vote for Smitherman who didn’t seem such a loser if the fairytale that he and Ford were really close could be believed.

    The Liberal$ have tried this ploy every time and it’s always backfired on them. Do they think we’re stupid? Do they think we’re deaf and blind, too?

    These are the sad dregs of rampant left-lib entitlement. The Liberal tactics are not working, they’re pretending that they do, and they continue to roll out the same old negativity towards anyone who doesn’t think like they do. It’s a losing strategy — and lucky for us, they haven’t figured it out yet!

    As for Bob Rae living in a different world than Rob Ford: Yup. For one thing, Bob Rae lives in the tony Baby Point section of West-end Toronto and Ford just lives in Etobicoke. For another, Bob Rae has no idea how the rest of us live, on limited budgets, wondering how we can afford another tax hike and how we can stretch our resources to pay all of our bills each month, whereas Rob Ford’s with the wo/man on the street who wants fewer taxes and better representation at City Hall.

  • Liz J

    My daughter and spouse and their Bernese Mountain dog, live in the perpetually frazzled and excited Doc Bennett’s riding of St Pauls, she was trotting about shilling for Smitherman, no doubt he won in that riding, it’s hopelessly Liberal. I sorta think Doc Bennett might make the Bernese Mountain dog a tad nervous with those hands flying about the air constantly.

    When a candidate in Toronto can win in spite of all the negativity put out by the TorStar, with all their efforts to smear and demean , we have to conclude there was an awakening, people didn’t do the usual brain free voting, they made their own decision and for good reason. People get tired of empty wallets after paying municipal bills including high taxes.

    I agree, Iggy is not a good actor, he takes direction poorly or he’s being badly directed. However he is billed as a leader so he shouldn’t need direction. If he doesn’t know where he’s going there’s there’s not much hope for his followers!

  • Liz J

    My daughter and spouse and their Bernese Mountain dog, live in the perpetually frazzled and excited Doc Bennett’s riding of St Pauls, she was trotting about shilling for Smitherman, no doubt he won in that riding, it’s hopelessly Liberal. I sorta think Doc Bennett might make the Bernese Mountain dog a tad nervous with those hands flying about the air constantly.

    When a candidate in Toronto can win in spite of all the negativity put out by the TorStar, with all their efforts to smear and demean , we have to conclude there was an awakening, people didn’t do the usual brain free voting, they made their own decision and for good reason. People get tired of empty wallets after paying municipal bills including high taxes.

    I agree, Iggy is not a good actor, he takes direction poorly or he’s being badly directed. However he is billed as a leader so he shouldn’t need direction. If he doesn’t know where he’s going there’s there’s not much hope for his followers!