A Liberal MP wakes up

Glen Pearson is the Liberal MP for London-North-Centre and is an avid blogger. He has some criticisms of the modern Liberal Party of Canada. I think he’s onto something. Here are some of his quotes:

“Like it or not, today’s Liberal Party is often viewed as elitist, out of touch with daily pressures of average people and groups.”

Michael Ignatieff is currently in China, getting in touch with the lives of everyday Canadians.

“Gone are the days when the Liberal Party could attract candidates from unions, social agencies, environmental groups, anti-poverty advocates, and even small business associations. This hurts, but it’s true.”

Three Liberal candidates have quit in the past month.

“[T]oday’s Liberal Party spends an inordinate amount of time talking about institutional politics and policy as opposed to the key role of the citizen as an agent of progress.”

Indeed, it’s more difficult to attract candidates when the reality of forming government seems too distant, but you need to attract candidates that are in it to make the individual lives of citizens better, not for a retirement plum or for a chauffeured car.

“One of our key weaknesses as a national party at present is our distance – physical, emotional, empathetic – from the average lives of citizens.”

Is it a problem of leadership? Of abandoning rural Canada and their concerns?

Is Pearson right? What do you believe plagues the Liberal Party of Canada?

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  • Glenpearson

    Stephen, it’s interesting that you only include my quotes as they pertain to the Liberal Party and not the ones that state the Conservative Party of Canada is guilty of the same things. I had hoped for better observation and comment. The issue is that politics itself is broken, and not merely the Liberal kind. I’m being honest about my party; hopefully you will be about yours.

    Glen

  • Glenpearson

    Stephen, it’s interesting that you only include my quotes as they pertain to the Liberal Party and not the ones that state the Conservative Party of Canada is guilty of the same things. I had hoped for better observation and comment. The issue is that politics itself is broken, and not merely the Liberal kind. I’m being honest about my party; hopefully you will be about yours.

    Glen

  • Peggyt1243

    In competence comes to mind.

  • Peggyt1243

    In competence comes to mind.

  • mecheng

    What do I think plagues the Liberal Party?

    Liberals.

  • wilson

    What do you believe plagues the Liberal Party of Canada?

    Reality
    And a Liberal bias media that sheilded the Libs and demonized the Reform/Alliance/Conservatives,
    making the former lazy and the later stronger and smarter.

  • bocanut

    What do you believe plagues the Liberal Party of Canada?
    Their inability to come to terms that they've stolen Canadian taxpayers money and not only do they refuse to acknowledge this crime they refuse to start paying anything back.
    Until they do they're doomed.

  • johndoe124

    Let me take a guess.

    On the one hand Mr. Pearson laments the elitism and disconnect of the Liberal party.

    ““Like it or not, today’s Liberal Party is often viewed as elitist, out of touch with daily pressures of average people and groups.”

    This is followed by a statement that epitomizes elitism and disconnect.

    “[T]oday’s Liberal Party spends an inordinate amount of time talking about institutional politics and policy as opposed to the key role of the citizen as an agent of progress.”

    Liberals don't view the citizens as autonomous individuals pursuing their own interests, they view them as agents of the State to be herded and harnessed in order to realize some kind of Progressive utopia. They objectify the citizenry. We're viewed as a means to an end, not as individuals with inherent rights and autonomy.

    So, since Progressive Liberalism objectifies the citizenry, is it any wonder that there is a disconnect?

  • calgaryjunkie

    What plagues the Liberal Party ?

    They can't play the political game from the Opposition side of the board.

  • Lee

    Corruption, elitism, failed socialist policies and, most of all, the enduring central Canada focus.

  • Lee

    Corruption, elitism, failed socialist policies and, most of all, the enduring central Canada focus.

  • Alberta Girl

    Well Glen – his post wasn’t about what you said about the Conservative party, it was what a Liberal said about the Liberal party. Take it like a man!

  • Alberta Girl

    Well Glen – his post wasn’t about what you said about the Conservative party, it was what a Liberal said about the Liberal party. Take it like a man!

  • spinassassin

    Those would be the quotes where you are dead wrong.

  • Hoarfrost

    The main problem with the Liberal Party is that they do not have a central focus on where they stand in the political spectrum. I was once a card carrying Liberal before I became a card carrying Progressive Conservative who also lost their way thanks to Joe Clark. After a few years I latched onto the Alliance Party which I thought was a merger of Reform with the PC's. Eventually that merger became a fact thanks to the very honourable Mr. McKay. The Liberal party moved left and lost the mainstream Canadian voter. That left the middle way to the Conservative party under Stephen Harper. People have come to realise that there was no hidden agenda but a rational option for progress.

    To sum up, significant leadership elements of the Liberal Party are now entering into a discussion of a merger with the ultra socialist NDP. The NDP champions state control of private enterprise which is a very radical position for most Canadians. It seems that the Liberals are disunited in the way to the future. We Conservatives were in that position through much of the Chretien era. I am convinced that a lot of Liberals of today would move to the Conservative side if faced with a merger with the socialists. State control and ownership of business, I don't think so.

  • Top Can

    Glen, you have a point. I think Stephen should have included the quotes you had about Conservatives, and on politics in general. But c’mon, Stephen Taylor is the premiere Tory blogger, he’s not going to, pardon my pun, ‘harp’ on his own team here.

  • Top Can

    Glen, you have a point. I think Stephen should have included the quotes you had about Conservatives, and on politics in general. But c’mon, Stephen Taylor is the premiere Tory blogger, he’s not going to, pardon my pun, ‘harp’ on his own team here.

  • http://twitter.com/mooseandskwerl Moose and Squirrel

    In Pearson's entire post titled “Liberalism – The Power of One”, there was only one quote about Conservatives. His focus was all about the Liberal Party of Canada. But I agree with him that the Liberal Party is elitist and out of touch with Canadians. We are put off by the arrogance of the party's leader with his “natural governing party” remarks.

    And I agree that “liberalism is all about individual freedom.” Unfortunately, the Liberal Party of Canada is not. They are all about expanding taxpayer funded government control over our lives. Ignatieff has made it clear that a Liberal government would create a national day care program — we'll all be forced to pay to raise other peoples' kids. He would keep the censorship powers of Section 13 of Canada's Human Rights Act.

    Tell you what, Mr. Pearson, if you want Canadians to consider the Liberal Party as a viable option to govern us, then how about you guys return the tens of millions of Adscam money you stole from taxpayers. And, no, I won't shut up about that ever. Your party doesn't have the decency to return the stolen money and punish the crooks. I would never vote for a party of thieves.

  • kenn2

    Don't be too surprised. I respect Stephen Taylor, at the same time I know what he does for a living and who's paying, so I recognise that this site is mainly a worship and instruction centre for the faithful.

    Nonetheless, he brings us some new viewpoints and insights, including yours, for which I'm grateful.

    The federal Liberals… have lost their way, and uh, it comes from the top. Until an issue or a personality emerges that galvanizes the party and produces a clear policy message, they won't command a majority.

    Thanks for having the courage to be self-critical. We all stand to benefit from an improved system.

  • batb

    Absolutely dead on: “One of our key weaknesses as a national party at present is our distance – physical, emotional, empathetic – from the average lives of citizens.”

    And that's a key reason why increasing numbers of Canadians are finding Prime Minister Stephen Harper to be more attractive than our media wants him to be: He's one of us; he's not a lawyer; he lived on a normal street, in a normal house — not a mansion like the Liberal Rosedale/Forest Hill/Rockliffe socialists — before he became PM; he has kids who play hockey and a wife who provides shelter for orphaned animals AND rides a motorcycle!!

    PMSH can relate to the every-day expenses of Canadian families and shows some sympathy for the tax burden on the middle class, unlike the Liberals who have been “run” by the Power Corporation elite in Quebec.

    When's Glen Pearson going to cross the floor? Methinks he'd be more comfortable sitting with the CPC.

  • batb

    I beg to differ, Mr. Pearson, that the CPC and its members are “guilty of the same things” as your party. You've got AdScam and $40,000,000 of taxpayers' dollars stolen from us — and no admission of guilt, no apology, and no paying back the missing money. Canadians have long memories and this scandal is not going to go away, no matter how hard the LPC and its cheerleaders in the media try to sweep it under the carpet.

    Also, Mr. Pearson, Power Corporation is a huge millstone around the LPC's neck — not for Canadians who don't know about the Desmarais Family's influence on decades of Liberal politicians but for those of us who do, Power Corporation can't be hidden behind the Wizard of Oz's curtain. How do you defend their involvement with the Liberals since Trudeau's time, their connections with China, their involvement in the oil industry in Iraq and their connections to Saddam Hussein?

    Until the Liberals come clean with Canadians and stop acting as though they're the perpetual ruling party, until they show some humility, until they stop continually criticizing the present government's policies without offering any viable alternatives or having the guts to bring a no-confidence motion against the government, they will be held in contempt by a great many Canadians, myself included.

    Political parties have to EARN respect. It's just not handed to them on a silver or gold platter. They have to earn respect by showing that they have the good of the country and Canadians as their highest priority, not the good of their party and its members at the top of their list. The way too many Liberal MPs carry on, unmercifully tearing down Prime Minister Harper's duly elected government, is an affront to a great many Canadians and has resulted in legitimate criticism of the LPC, yours included.

    Until the LPC faces reality, acknowledges and apologizes for lots of mismanagement of the public purse, and begins to work WITH the Harper government for the good of all Canadians, it will continue to languish. It's carrying way too much baggage to be able to gain lift off.

  • Liz J

    So, because the LPC is broken you go on to deduct therefore politics itself is broken.

    Sounds like a slight bit of Liberal arrogance to me.

    Politics isn't broken but it's a pretty shabby job the Liberals are doing as Official Opposition, it's about more than playing gotcha games.

  • kenn2
  • east of eden

    But, but, but…our party is NOT guilty of the same things. That's most likely why Stephen left them out so as to not embarrass you further.

  • Mthielen

    What is wrong with the liberal party is their media friends who will never tell us the truth. Their hate for our PM has blinded them. We now have other means of finding out news and the truth.
    First, all their leadership guys/gals should pay back their loans, then adscam and the missing money. And they must issue a very public and meaningful mea culpa and name names.
    We have apologized to natives, residential school victims, the chinese, and who else. Do we have to wait 100 yrs for libs to apologize to Canadians.
    Next they could ask/order a lot of longtime liberals to resign. Regardless of the leader it is those that come with him to make up the caucus that are the problem.
    3 candidates of quit, another is facing some serious charges and a sitting mp has been arrested and still sits in caucus. Then the biggest problem for the liberals is their annointed leader. They were hoping for a quick election, and win it, before we found out the truth about him. Didn't work, and if his buddies really thought Dion would resign if the coup had worked, they had better think again.

  • DougM

    The problem with the Liberal party is (as well as what's mentioned above) twofold, their history and their brand. From Trudeau running against Clarke's wage and price controls and them imposing them to his decimating the military, taking us into a national debt, and dividing the country with his NEP and bilingualism, to Cretin's running on eliminating the GST and re-writing NAFTA and then giving us the HRDC scandal, Shawinigate, the Billion dollar boondoggle of a useless Long gun registry to the Grand mere affair and Adscam, they have given us 50 years of unmitigated disaster – simply put, they have taken that old joke about “How do you know when a politician is lying” (Answer – when his lips are moving) and virtually owned it and made it theirs. Moreover – they insist they are right even when buried under the litany of their lies. To put Dion up as a Leader when he was part of the Kyoto disaster and part of Cretin's Adscam Cabinet wasn't just arrogance, it was giving the electorate the finger (maybe the same one Trudeau gave the public in Salmon Arm BC.) Rae was and remains unelectable in Ontario for anyone who was of working age for Rae-Days so they had to go outside the country to get Iggy who was untainted by Adscam who came with his own baggage. Through all of this, the arrogance of their social engineering attempts and attacks on the west continued even as the west was gaining economic and electoral power. (Liberal Senator) Keith Davies “Screw the west, we'll take the rest” has come home to roost as well. Not the brightest tactics. It wasn't helped by CBC becoming a Liberal mouthpiece either a it enabled them to continue without criticism when just deepened the hole. As one wag put it after the last election “If you look at the electoral map, the Liberal party is now a party of greater Toronto” and to both Davies and the Liberals dismay, the country is far bigger than Toronto and the Bloc has taken over in Quebec which leaves pretty slim pickings.
    The fact is that the west is coming of age which means, to encapsulate, new Canada is, if not taking over, certainly rising up from old Canada which paid attention almost exclusively to Ontario and Quebec. If Iggy had the balls to fight off his Rosedale handlers, he might have a chance but the days when the media attacked Manning, Day, and anyone who came out of the west (Harper included) simply pissed people off and they don't swallow the bogeyman bull anymore because its been proven to be bunk. We had Dosanjh screaming we didn't need the planes that turned out to be necessary to send relief to Haiti, pretty much the entire international community complimenting us on the Governments handling of the economic crisis and we are stepping back onto the world stage that years of the Liberal party have removed us from. Again, we are claiming soverignty in our north which the Liberals all but abandoned with the PM insisting on missions and bases up there so just maybe we can recover mineral and resource rights before everyone from Denmark to Russia claim them on our behalf. Vote Liberal? I did that once, and that was for Trudeau – I'm still ashamed….

  • batb

    kenn2, I KNEW it was going to be a poll. I almost didn't click on your link.

    Polls come and polls go. We still have a CPC government. Prime Minister Stephen Harper is still Canada's prime minister and the leader of our government. He's been playing this role very well for almost five years.

    Yes, increasing numbers are beginning to see that PMSH is a stalwart, he's smart, he's steady, he's an able leader, he's a grown up.

    Oh yeah, that's another thing that plagues the Liberals: their juvenile state: It's not my fault! It's her fault! It's his fault! I didn't do it! Don't blame me! It's Stephen Harper's fault! The CPC are mean! Stephen Harper's a control freak! etc., etc. ad nauseum.

    With the likes of Marlene Jennings, Mark Holland, Carolyn Bennett, Denis Coderre, Ruby Dhalla, Ujjal Dosanjh, Hedy Fry, Justin Truedau, to name only a few, in the LPC caucus, Canadians aren't impressed. Their “gotcha” politics are wearing increasingly thin because those are the only arrows they seem to have in their quiver. Liberals need to prove to Canadians that they're not just on the taxpayer-funded gravy train — first-class all the way.

    The Liberals have to prove that they want the government to work for Canadians, not just for their small, self-serving constituency. Up to now, they haven't proven this, they've proved the opposite. They're for themselves and they want power at all costs because they really seem to think that they're the “natural ruling party.”

    Hahahahahahahaha!

  • kenn2

    I'm trying to stay out of your way, really… but this can't pass unchallenged:

    pretty much the entire international community complimenting us on the Governments handling of the economic crisis

    the economic fundamentals that got Canada through this economic crisis were put in place long before Harper. Harper at least had the good sense not to screw those up. It did take a good swift kick coalition to the backside before he finally saw sense on stimulus funding.

  • Liz J

    Good synopsis, Doug.

    You should be ashamed for voting for Trudeau but he wasn't exactly what he seemed to many early on.

  • Liz J

    Oh, yes, how do you account for all the crying from the coalition of losers about the deficit being bumped up due to all the stimulous demanded by them… OR ELSE ?

    God, how pathetic can you get?

  • DougM

    A bit simplisitc and misleading. While the Bank Act was certainly not a CPC invention, the fact is that the stimulus and timing was. You may remember that prior governments (both PC and Liberal) has raised the National Debt to a point that it couldn't be controlled – it was actually Preston Manning who started preaching fiscal conservatism and the Libs were still against it until our National and bond credit rating was downgraded, literally forcing Martin to take action. His action was to simply download everything on to the provinces – if he had done it and, at the same time eliminated the Transfer payments that would have done the trick as it would have forced Provinces to pay for their own programs. Instead he tried to force, through those payments, the west to pay for the rest of them (and include Ontario here as the three “have” provinces were BC Alta and Ont.). (As Liberal MP Karyganis pointed out – that was the idea of the Green Shift too but I digress). But the fact is that the awards and rocognition came for more than just the fundamentals. To wit: “that the policies adopted by Canada for battling global financial meltdown have helped it in attaining this reputation.” (See below for the entire article) An example of that was the governments initiatives on “Shovel ready” projects and the tax breaks for home improvements – what they did was keep the guys on the street employed, the tradesmen instead of simply bailing out the high profile boys as was done in the States – trickle up economics, if you will – and none of that had anything to do with the coalition. In fact, if Harper had really wanted to get his majority over the best interests in the country – all he had to do was to let the government fall and go to the polls – if you remember, after the 3 stooges tried their little power grab, the polls were saying clearly that the CPC would have had 78% of support – so the Dippers and Lieberals would have now been extinct. So to encapsulate; – the “Coalition” was about the worst idea Dion et al could possibly have come up with, it was based on the panic arising from the fact that in the proposed budget, all political parties would have had their collective hands removed for the public teat (as 65% of Canadians wished) and had bugger all to do with Liberal financial acumen for the global meltdown.

    “The Euromoney magazine has named Canada's Jim Flaherty as the finance minister of the year. This is the second honour for Canada, after it was rated as the best of the G8 nations by World Economic Forum for showcasing a good battle against current global crisis.
    The International Monetary Fund has also forecast that Canada will be one of the nations, which will have a minimal impact from economic meltdown. It has also been predicted to witness the strongest and earliest recovery signs from economic crises among the G8 nations.
    Euromoney magazine, which presented the award after the IMF and World Bank meeting got over, mentioned that the policies adopted by Canada for battling global financial meltdown have helped it in attaining this reputation. Flaherty listed responsible fiscal management and effective regulation of the financial system as the reasons for Canada's better performance. He added that the sound fiscal management has helped Canada to witness lower job cuts when compared to US.”

  • kenn2

    Not so pathetic as to credit the CPC for policies, regulations and work done by others.

    (…and why are you blaming ME for every utterance of anyone left of Mussolini? I haven't blamed you for DougM, have I?)

  • DougM

    What can I say, I was young and ignorant. In my defense there is the old adage “If you haven't been a socialist by the time you are twenty, you have no heart. If you are still a socialist by the time you are forty, you have no brain..” It only took me to about 20 to get a brain, and there are far far worse.

  • kenn2

    From your article:
    Flaherty listed responsible fiscal management and effective regulation of the financial system as the reasons for Canada's better performance.

    That didn't just happen in the last 4 years.

  • DougM

    Indeed, he did. That's because in some circles (and damned certainly not Liberal ones, so perhaps you should be forgiven this lapse) it is considered unseemly to crow about your achievements, particularly on a public podium when recieving an award. So Flaherty also acknowledged the “responsible fiscal management and effective regulation of the financial system” which was at least partly in place before their arrival, (something no Liberal would ever do) however fiscal management is also part of a budget and therefore a Parliamentry session. But again I direct you to the wording of the award, to wit; a.)” showcasing a good battle against current global crisis”; and b.) “the policies adopted by Canada for battling global financial meltdown”. Ergo, the policies he was being awarded for, were the current ones, what Flaherty did was include the structures in place such as the Bank Act. Again, with any type of modesty and truth so utterly foreign to Liberals, clearly I should have been more precise. But it is, after all, a Conservative blog. My apoligies.

  • DougM

    But then, I'm in the center and not on the right so it would be incorrect. Just because I happen to object to people who have made lying to the Canadian public, doing precisely the opposite of what they run a platform on, and running a government on a level of corruption that could only be envied by the Hell's Angels, a virtual trademark, doesn't put me on the right of the political spectrum. It simply means that when Jean Cretin vomited into an open mike that ” If US Politicians were in Canada, they would all be in jail” what he was really saying was that if we had impeachment procedures in Canada, his party would have been in there first and no doubt making the beds for the US pols.

  • Tedbetts

    Actually, Batb, Martin did apologize for Adscam and the party repaid the $14M. The $40M is a blogger invention. Your memory is not as long as you pretend it to be.

    As for Power Corp and the Desmarais… well, Stephen Harper's transformation into Mulroney should now be considered complete.

    Until the CPC faces reality, acknowledges and apologizes for lots of mismanagement of the public purse, and begins to work WITH Parliament for the good of all Canadians, it will continue to languish in minority. It's already generated way too much baggage to be able to gain lift off.

  • Tedbetts

    When the government continuously and regularly breaks the law, shows utter contempt for our fundamental democratic and accountability institutions, uses government and government spending as its own money… and completely gets away with it… yes, politics itself is broken.

  • Tedbetts

    Batb:

    Polls do indeed go up and down, but you are the one who claims support is going up for Harper and all evidence points the other way. Not only did fewer Canadians vote for him in the last election than in 2006, but he won with the lowest level of support of any PM in our entire history. And now he wallows around 30%. When has someone who consistently only gets the support of a third of voters been considered to be popular and successful?

    As for pass the buck “it's not our fault”, Harper and the CPC have perfected that. There is always someone else to blame and they will always find a way to blame the Liberals or the press or some staffer or the US or anyone else for their mistakes and screw-ups and incomptence.

    Don't mistake of equating Liberal weakness with Conservative competence. We've never had a less competent, fiscally idiotic, pass the buck and don't take blame government in my lifetime.

    The Conservatives have to prove that they want the government to work for Canadians, not just for their small, self-serving constituency. Up to now, they haven't proven this, they've proved the opposite. They're for themselves and they want power at all costs because they really seem to think that they're the “natural ruling party” and are entitled to their perks and entitled to a majority. With their arrogance and incompetence, they will never get it, no matter how badly the Liberals do.

  • Tedbetts

    Actually he almost did screw those things up.

    One of the first things he did was to introduce US-style cheap 40 year no-money-down mortgages backed by government insurance guarantees. After a year and a half of that way too obvious disaster in the making, enough sane people told him to shut down that volcano and he did. However, we are still on the hook for half a billion dollars worth of mortgage insurance company guarantees.

    Harper also has strongly opposed the very fiscal regulations he now takes credit for. Worse, he had new looser regulations in the works across all industries. He has begun to implement them but not the bank regulations.

  • bocanut

    Another honest analysis from someone who gives cash to the Liberals but votes NDP.

  • kenn2

    it is considered unseemly to crow about your achievements

    True. Harper introduced us to the modest custom of sticking the CPC logo on government presentation cheques.

  • kenn2

    …what was I thinking? Thanks Ted.

    I'm going for a blood test; I may have had some of the Koolaid here.

  • batb

    Nice try, Ted.

    Paul Martin's “apology” ain't worth zip, as he, Chretien, and Mo Strong hang out in China making lots of do-re-mi, something that started when they were politicians (Martin and Chretien: Check out the Sidewinder Report, which was deep-sixed by Chretien). There are still Adscam suspects being tried while Martin and Chretien try to fly under the radar — that is, when they're not publicly criticizing Prime Minister Harper (which used to be a real faux pas when former PMs were gentlemen, not sleaze-bag moral pygmies).

    As for the photo, I don't see how inviting Andre Desmarais to a dinner with Chinese officials in Canada could be avoided by the Prime Minister. PMSH, at least, isn't in bed with them, unless you know something that the rest of us don't. I'm sure he does, however, have to deal with them seeing as les hommes Desmarais shadow the Liberal Party, with their hands in their pockets like that ad on TV, and have huge dealings with the Chinese. Obviously, Canada is in trade negotiations with China, something that is unavoidable seeing as China is the largest market in the world.

    You're being disingenuous comparing a photo of Prime Minister Harper with Andre Desmarais and various Chinese officials to Power Corporation's long history of involvement with the Liberal Party of Canada. Remember, too, that Andre Desmarais is married to Jean Chretien's daughter, France, and that not joining our U.S. allies in the war in Iraq had less to do with Canada's “peaceful” tendenices than it had to do with Chretien's not wanting to interfere with his grandchildren's energy holdings, which were all wrapped up with Saddam Hussein's policies.

    The stench emanating from the Liberal/Power Corporation connection isn't going to go away. And if it weren't for the appalling non-appetite for investigative journalism on the part of the LPC-lapdog journos, more Canadians would be clamouring for more information. And THAT's another scandal: the media's role in covering up this connection. But that's a topic for another day.

  • batb

    Nice try, Ted.

    Paul Martin's “apology” ain't worth zip, as he, Chretien, and Mo Strong hang out in China making lots of do-re-mi, something that started when they were politicians (Martin and Chretien: Check out the Sidewinder Report, which was deep-sixed by Chretien). There are still Adscam suspects being tried while Martin and Chretien try to fly under the radar — that is, when they're not publicly criticizing Prime Minister Harper (which used to be a real faux pas when former PMs were gentlemen, not sleaze-bag moral pygmies).

    As for the photo, I don't see how inviting Andre Desmarais to a dinner with Chinese officials in Canada could be avoided by the Prime Minister. PMSH, at least, isn't in bed with them, unless you know something that the rest of us don't. I'm sure he does, however, have to deal with them seeing as les hommes Desmarais shadow the Liberal Party, with their hands in their pockets like that ad on TV, and have huge dealings with the Chinese. Obviously, Canada is in trade negotiations with China, something that is unavoidable seeing as China is the largest market in the world.

    You're being disingenuous comparing a photo of Prime Minister Harper with Andre Desmarais and various Chinese officials to Power Corporation's long history of involvement with the Liberal Party of Canada. Remember, too, that Andre Desmarais is married to Jean Chretien's daughter, France, and that not joining our U.S. allies in the war in Iraq had less to do with Canada's “peaceful” tendenices than it had to do with Chretien's not wanting to interfere with his grandchildren's energy holdings, which were all wrapped up with Saddam Hussein's policies.

    The stench emanating from the Liberal/Power Corporation connection isn't going to go away. And if it weren't for the appalling non-appetite for investigative journalism on the part of the LPC-lapdog journos, more Canadians would be clamouring for more information. And THAT's another scandal: the media's role in covering up this connection. But that's a topic for another day.

  • batb

    Uh huh. So you say.

    The Liberal sleaze for over 30 years (and I'm proud to say that I was never sucked into Trudeaumania; I smelled a rat back in the early '70s when I could first vote) has badly eroded voter confidence and the Charter-of-Rights (no responsibilities)-and-Freedoms (mistaken for license)-fed new generations of “voters” don't even bother to vote. Hey, why should they? They've got their “rights” (check out Christie Blatchford's article on the “protesters”: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ch…).

    These entitled kids with good teeth are the legacy of Trudeaupia; I've seen this train coming down the track for a long time and because I don't suffer from historical amnesia or that most odious of syndromes, the political correctness one, my eyes are wide open.

    Our prime minister and his party aren't perfect — what political party is? — but given their combined leftard and separatist Opposition, they're holding up pretty well. The fact that PMSH was able to hold onto a minority, at all, with three Opposition parties opposing him and the jackals in the media acting as an unelected Opposition, tells you that Canadians — the few of us who bothered to vote — preferred the CPC brand to the others. They were duly elected, whatever the stats are and whatever your opinion, Ted.

    Canada's Parliamentary democracy is taking a huge beating with four political parties, and one whose sole purpose is to break up Canada and for whose candidates only people in one province can vote; what a travesty of democracy. I suspect that it's going to be increasingly difficult for ANY Canadian political party to win a majority, let alone the CPC.

    Any way you cut it, Ted, the LPC is in big trouble due to lack of leadership (crowning party leaders isn't the Canadian way, especially when you parachute the leader in from having spent 30 years away from Canada), unresolved scandals for which the LPC refuse to take responsibility or be accountable for, and the inability to raise substantial funds due to the lack of grassroots support. If I were a Liberal, I'd begin to attend to my own glass house, which is in major disrepair, rather than throwing stones at someone else's.

  • batb

    Yeah, kenn2, and the Opposition parties are now criticizing Prime Minister Harper and his government for spending TOO much on the stimulation package.

    We all know that because the LPC lacks a sound policy platform — after all, they were able to rely on their comfy majority, their money-making scandals, AND a compliant media to keep them in power through the Trudeau/Chretien/Martin years — their only modus operandi is to pile on the CPC and its leader at every opportunity, which is about twice or three times a day. I'd like, just once, to see a dignified and meaningful Question Period in the HOC without either Marlene Jennings, Usajj Dosanjh, Bob Rae, Carolyn Bennett, or Mark Holland going on a rant.

    There ARE legitimate criticisms that can be made of the CPC, as there are for all governments, but these guys are such a pack of jackals and cry “Wolf!” so often, that it's impossible not to see them as simply obstructionist.

  • Gayle

    “The issue is that politics itself is broken, and not merely the Liberal kind. I'm being honest about my party; hopefully you will be about yours.'

    I trust you now see this was the wrong place to come if you wanted an honest analysis of either party.

  • batb

    Thanks, Doug, for all of your input. The LPC footprint isn't going to go away and the more we continue to place in front of people the results of the Trudeau/Chretien/Martin/Power Corporation legacy, the more apparent it will become that Trudeau's and the LPC's “golden age” was nothing but a beard for some of the most ruthless, unprincipled gouging of the electorate in Canada's history.

  • kenn2

    I still have some difficulty seeing all the Suns, the National Post… Global (at least when owned by the Aspers) as “LPC-lapdog journos”. How come they missed the Liberal/Power Corporation “stench”, then?