Ujjal Dosanjh’s terrible ten-percenter

The topic of the Harmonized Sales Tax (HST) is a quite unpopular one in British Columbia.  It was introduced by Liberal Premier Gordon Campbell in late July and will be implemented mid-2010.

The British Columbia NDP is very much against Gordon Campbell’s HST and even has a petition site against it.  The website explains,

Stop the HST

Gordon Campbell’s $4 billion tax hike is going to hit you hard.

The BC Liberals didn’t tell the truth about the HST.

Before the election, Campbell promised he wouldn’t impose a Harmonized Sales Tax, or HST. Shortly after election day he broke that promise, without any consultation.

Here is Liberal MP Ujjal Dosanjh’s ten-percenter against the HST. Dosanjh used to be the NDP leader in BC and even served as an NDP Premier in that province, but today he finds himself as a federal Liberal MP who narrowly squeaked by in the last election by 22 votes.

One can see what Dosanjh is doing. Instead of blaming the BC Liberals — the party that actually brought in the HST, and a party with which his federal party shares its name — Dosanjh is fabricating by telling his constituents by blaming the unpopular tax on his main threat: the federal Conservatives.

But is it truthful Mr. Dosanjh? Hopefully more than 22 people will know better next time around.

UPDATE: If you’re wondering what Dosanjh’s colleagues in the federal Liberal party have said about the idea of the HST, here’s a sample:

“We support harmonization, but that’s not the problem.

“The issue is deal by deal federalism with the provinces. We have no criticism of the provincial government’s budget. We think it’s a courageous budget in difficult circumstances. Our criticism is with Harper’s let’s make a deal federalism, which seems to me to put strains on the federation” — Michael Ignatieff (CTV Newsnet, March 27, 2009)

McCallum on the HST:

John McCallum, the party’s finance critic, was asked what he thought of the deal after Question Period and replied that it is “absolutely what the doctor ordered for the economy.” (National Post, March 27, 2009)

  • steve

    my guess – he will lose by 1,426 votes this time around.

  • slnazareth

    I did point out to Ujjal that the BC Liberals are the one who accepted the HST and it was not shoved down their throats and forced into it by the Feds, yet he says by offering a deal to BC they are the guilty party! How does that make any sense???

  • David

    There is more to it than just that.

    If we didn't know better one would think that Dosanjh is an independant MP. Nowhere is there any mention of the word Liberal. No mention of Ignatieff either.

    Remember the Team Martin campaign strategy? The Libs felt reminding voters of their brand would hurt them in a campaign (Re; adscam) so instead they branded themselves around their leader.

    This is not a huge factor because the ten percenters are pretty bottom of the barrel stuff (IMO) ; they go straight to the garbage bin.

    Is this a theme that other Lib MP's will adopt? Will they want their voters to forget that they are associated with the Libs? Will they even distance themselves from Iggy as well? Dosanjh has clearly done this here.

    We can do better….

    Note; in the small print he does say it is Harper approved….
    What does Iggy think of this tax? I suspect we will never find out.

  • http://twitter.com/markalanwhittle Mark-Alan Whittle

    Hoist on his own Petard.

  • Anon

    WOW… any chance this is going to backfire on the current Ontario Provinical by-election underway? The Liberal candiate is being backed by Federal counterpart Dr. Carolyn Bennett… now HER collegue from BC is opposing the HST, when the McGuinty Liberals are imposing the same tax? Wonder how the Ontario Liberals are gonna deal with that one.

  • Westerner

    I'm a fan Taylor but I fail to see where he's being untruthful?

    Many BC Conservatives are very, very opposed to the BC HST too.

    The upstart BC Conservative party has gone from 2% to 10% in the polls since this fiasco. Ask Ryan Warawa.

    Former Social Credit Leader and BC Premier Bill Van Der Zalm is leading the provincial opposition to it.

    And everyone knows the feds have been pushing this. A multi-billion dollar spending transfer incentive is pretty transparent.

    Like him or not, Ujjal's a moderate, straight-shooting guy – can't see a word of a lie in there

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    To call it “harper's tax” is a stretch. The BC Liberals wrote the policy and are implementing it.

  • MrEd256

    unfortunately, and I don't care what anyone outside of the area say because you don't see it first hand like we do in BC, in his riding and others like in across the lower mainland, they vote how they're told to vote by their spiritual leaders

  • diggertsi

    Remember, as a Fibberal – say anything, do anything. Just get elected. Then repeat the process to stay in office.

  • NovaDog

    Sending out political 10%er's without displaying the party colours seems a bit untruthful.

  • trustonlymulder

    As Minister O'Connor said to Dosanjh awhile back (on the subject of military spending)

    “This member should put a bag over his head in shame!”

  • Janni

    Yes you are correct that almost to a person, we are p*ssed in BC about the BC Liberals foisting the HST on us almost the day after the last provincial election, during which they assured us that this new tax would be a definite no go. However in the process of all the regulatory and bureaucratic effort required, in order to allay some of the cost of implementing a HST, the feds had offered 1.6 billion as they done something similar for Ontario. If the expenses where not incurred (HST not imposed), no $1.6B for cost recovery. It stinks to high heaven but the Feds did not force the provincial Liberals hands. Money as a carrot is very intoxicating for spendthrift government. BC and Alberta have also been trying to harmonize labour mobility laws and transportation issues between the two provinces and I believe the BC Liberals would likely have implemented this HST sooner than later anyways, The federal carrot was simply too enticing.
    I despise Dosanjh´s method and his hiding from the Liberal banner, but the crux is, he has tapped a valid vein.

  • tedbetts

    Is this any different than Harper Conservative MPs saying the HST is not something they have been promoting? Despite frequent calls by the Conservatives, including in the budget itself, for the remaining provinces to adopt HST? including topping up the one-time funding in order to encourage them to do so? Using billions and billions and billions of Canadian taxpayer dollars to do so?

    Another example of the pot calling the kettle black. Another example of Conservative “our principles don't apply to us”.

  • tedbetts

    Harper and Flaherty have been pushing HST for several years now and even offering billions and billions and billions of taxpayer dollars to encourage them to do so, topping the program that was already there.

    And it is being implemented after hours and days of negotiations with the Feds.

    The “policy” is a federal legislation and cannot move without Harper's approval.

  • Janni

    Ujjal has become nearly depraved, he´s an obnoxious career politician. Recently he practically called the PM a racist for the various predicaments of some Canadians abroad. Hopefully most of us remember that these identical Canadians, were also “ignored” by the ruling Liberal party prior to. Here in BC Ujjal was against holding Expo in Vancouver, against the Olympics, he was pro-fast ferry as a union friendly money pit, etc etc. He is one of the worst Liberals for continually insulting most of us by using the term “all Canadians believe..” when he is pushing his Harper-hate fests or when he is pushing his Liberals are the only party.
    Canadians believe.. this Canadians want that.. How would he actually know? A comparatively unknown candidate lost the last election against Dosanjh by only 22 votes. That should have been more instructive to Dosanjh. Evidently not.

  • Janni

    Ujjal has become nearly depraved, he´s an obnoxious career politician. Recently he practically called the PM a racist for the various predicaments of some Canadians abroad. Hopefully most of us remember that these identical Canadians, were also “ignored” by the ruling Liberal party prior to. Here in BC Ujjal was against holding Expo in Vancouver, against the Olympics, he was pro-fast ferry as a union friendly money pit, etc etc. He is one of the worst Liberals for continually insulting most of us by using the term “all Canadians believe..” when he is pushing his Harper-hate fests or when he is pushing his Liberals are the only party.
    Canadians believe.. this Canadians want that.. How would he actually know? A comparatively unknown candidate lost the last election against Dosanjh by only 22 votes. That should have been more instructive to Dosanjh. Evidently not.

  • Truthfairy

    Dosanjh has lost any credibility after his tirade coming out of the Liberal bee hive in Sudbury last week.
    He was vicious and came as close to calling the Conservative government racist as it gets. He's acting like a desperate man and sometimes desperate are given to desperate actions including lying or stretching the truth.

    The BC voters know who brought in the HST, it was their Liberal provincial government, they had a choice, the Feds did not force their hands.

    Dosanjh can lie/insinuate/intimate all he wants, he could well be toast next election. He's just one of the Liberal nervous Nellies. There are many nervous Nellies, judging by the reports following the meeting in the Big Nickle after their leader declared “Mr Harper, your time is up”. We'll soon see who's time is up.

  • wilson

    Yes, they did push for a harmonized sales tax.
    Now the BC and Ontario govts have to sell it:

    ''…Tough economic times are expected to be with us for some time. We must use that time to lay the building blocks for a more prosperous future in which every Ontarian is better off. The status quo is not an option. …''

    ''Under a harmonized sales tax some prices would go up while hundreds of others would go down. And experience has shown that consumers would enjoy higher wages and more disposable income:
    a harmonized sales tax would lower business costs and encourage investment, making companies more productive and competitive;
    more competitive companies can sell more products while more productive workers earn higher wages.
    This is an equation proven true in every jurisdiction in the world. Companies win. And their employees win.''

    http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/587565#s

  • terry1

    I too call it Harper's tax. Has he not promised several BB$ as a transition grant? that's not because Harpo's suddenly become a nice guy. I CALL IT BLOOD MONEY.

    Its just another method of downloading a la Mike Harris style and has Flaherty lies written all over it. I hope the feds wear it well.

  • terry1

    Dosanjh is not hiding from from the liberal banner. Iget 10%er's all the time from MP's all over the Country and most of the time the only oblique reference to party is in asking to fill in some check box that mentions harper by name as the guy doing best on that particular file.

    The HST is nothing but a federal download Tory style. Its too coincidental that both major provinces have agreed to it almost at the same time.

  • terry1

    Fairy, Dosanjh is correct…. this government is racist.

    You are correct he could be toast and so could about 70 or more reformatort MP's. Its an election stupid and the people will have their say.

    Bribery is a wonderful tool when used effectively. The reformatorts just got caught

  • terry1

    mulder, I also note that O'Coonor was not defence minister very long because he seriously screwed up the job. That's whose head the bag should have gone on.

  • terry1

    You mean they should tell the truth a la HARPO and try to make everyone believe the Libs are forming another coalition. Ther is a video circulating on utube that shows clearly it was the harpercrites who first proposed a coalition government in a letter tho the GG in 2005. There is other good stuff in there as well.

  • MrEd256

    as per your sop…out of context and different situations…

    What will you call it if Iffy calls an election over non-issues, we can do better, as steves suggested means the Harper gov't is doing a good job already, regardless of your previous arguements about maintaining the law regarding fixed election dates… oh wait, that's different, after supporting Harper for a year by voting with him it's now okay to take down the gov't over non-issues now that the economy is in recovery mode…

    but that's different when it's a Liberal doing it…

  • MrEd256

    LOL…maybe, but O'Conner had the balls to call Doozy and his party out on their historical record…

  • MrEd256

    from all over the country Terry…so you're not someone who just blogs for fun…if you're getting these from all over you must do this as something more than a hobby…as for a download it amounts that the province should hold back money they would normally send to Ottawa to dole out back to them… is that about it? careful how you answer Terry…there are pitfalls to how you word your responce

  • MrEd256

    read the key not here Terry… I know it's hard for you to spin the truth…

    “The BC voters know who brought in the HST, it was their Liberal provincial government, they had a choice, the Feds did not force their hands”

    Doozy is a Liberal… Provincial Liberals went back on their word and brought in the HST after saying they wouldn't…

    The thruth is Doozy is doing all he can to distance himself from being branded with the broad voter brush that will undoubtedly paint ALL Liberals as part of the same guild regardless of Priovincial or Fedral seat and if there's an election anytime in the next year he will face an electorate who is largely polarized in one respect… even voting NDP is better than voting Liberal in BC

  • Cat

    I'd like to say that I find Terry1's use of the word “Harpo” to name Stephen Harper interesting. I know he thinks he's being offensive and ticking us off. borrowing the moniker and all, but guess what Terry?
    It's not an insult. It puts Harper right up there with Harpo Marx, and Harpo(Oprah's production company).

    Stephen Harper's in great company even by your standards. You'll have to come up with something else to get a rise out of this crowd dude.

  • Zohan

    Taylor: “To call it “harper's tax” is a stretch.”

    Yes, it absolutely is. But – and this is an important point – the Conservatives have to be upfront about their role in this. The federal government has been attempting harmonization for a very long time. Martin pushed it as finance minister and as Prime Minister and Harper and Flaherty have been encouraging it as well.

    The facts are quite clear: this Conservative government will be providing $1.6 billion to BC and $4.3 billion to Ontario in transitional funding. The federal government will be administering and processing the tax. These are inescapable facts. The Harper government does have a large role to play in harmonization. With that said, so do Campbell and McGuinty. They went to the bargaining table and negotiated deals with Flaherty. It's all that simple. What each side created was a tax regime that is good public policy for Canada but their bickering is a threat to the deal.

    Campbell, McGuinty, Flaherty and Harper are partners in this thing. They should start selling the HST together as opposed to blaming each other.

  • terry1

    JJ, that's very funny coming from a supporter of the dirtiest PM in Canadian history using attack ads and dirty unethical political manouvers. Harper blames everyone but Albertans for all of Canada's problems.

  • terry1

    Ct, that was brilliant!!!!! ha ha.

  • terry1

    Force is not the operative word….. bribery is!!!

  • terry1

    tedbetts, you have siad in a nutshell what Liberals will be telling Canadians during the election campaign.

  • Gayle

    My husband works for a big company in Alberta. Once a year they get together and listen to the president of this big company give a “State of the Union” address, first in Calgary and then in Edmonton. That president invariably tells the employees to vote conservative if they want to save their jobs.

  • Bec

    Dosanjh, seems desperate. With the 'catsmeat' comment, still fresh and floating around and his near political death experience during the last episode of, 'Election Canada', he cannot possibly show his political stripe on this truth challenged 10%-er.
    Wei Young, an astute politician that almost whooped, legend in his own mind, Dosanjh, has likely kept the riding well oiled and ready for battle. This piece of bs propaganda, is as much directed at her, a formidable Conservative opponent as it is at the PM, imo.

    Besides that, why sully a piece of Liberal diatribe with truth, when propagandized crap is just so much more…..him.

  • Jen

    MrEd256, are you aware that Jean Chretien sent troops into Iraq and Macallum the defense minister at the time was aware of it and both of them lied to the their media.
    Oh, another thing, did you know that the LPOC cut funding to our troops. Now where did that 'money' for the troops go into. The LPOC of course. And quess what, the media kept quiet. Now I wonder why?

  • terry1

    Gsyle, as someone who does a lot of business in Alberta I am very aware of your husband's type of Company. I think Alberta is brain dead politically. They haven't had a good provincial government since Loughheed who was a red Tory. The recent batch of premiers have just been playthings for certain constituencies. The current guy got there by sheer accident and is proving to be a lap dog for the right wing nut bars.

    I don't even know why they bother having elections there.

  • 2009nancer

    Hey terro, we know who will truly wear this…the lying libs. And blood money? Really?

  • JJ

    Frankly, Ujjal Dosanjh disgusts me. His dirty and blatantly misleading politics are what we DON’T need right now. I know he lost any ounce of respect from me when he started blaming the voters for the close race. Talk about lack of humility and gratefulness. The idiot should be on his knees thanking the voters for giving him another chance instead of beating his chests in anger at the voters.

    I hope Wai Young trounces this idiot next time.

  • 2009nancer

    You say you do alot of business in Alberta…hmmm, seems you have no problem dealing with the so called brain dead nut bars!! So I guess that says more about you and your nasty rant about fellow Canadians, well if you are Canadian. And FYI, Klein was also a red Tory. TORY, TORY, TORY! YEAH!!! :) Oh, ya, have a nice day, terro.

  • wilson

    So then the Harmonized tax in
    Quebec,
    Newfoundland,
    Nova Scotia ,
    New Brunswick —
    you also call Chretien's tax!
    Seeing as Liberals governed in 1997, right?

  • wilson

    Why would Albertans elect Liberals?
    So they can raid the wealth from our province to give in to NDP demands in exchange for holding onto power?
    So they can throw our farmers in jail when we demand to be treated the same as Eastern farmers?
    So we can be the healthcare boogeyman as a way to win elections, when BC and Quebec are 'doing' what Albertans are only talking about?

    No thanks.
    And Saskatchewan and Manitoba flip you Liberals the bird too.

  • gimbol

    So what is Dosanj committing to?

    From what I understand the federal government cannot force a provincial government to rescind a provincial tax, so I’m guessing Dosanj is pledging that a liberal government will be reducing the GST like Harper did, or going one better and eliminating the GST altogether.
    Sort of like when Chretien said:”Da GST, we will kill et.”
    Because the only way the fed can stop the harmonization of a tax if the province is bent on doing it, is to eliminate the federal portion the GST.
    Surely they can do better than this.
    Dosanjh should be called on this to clarify what the liberal position on the GST is.
    Raise it?
    Lower it?
    Eliminiate it?
    Which one?

  • gimbol

    One more lie I’d like to point out about that 10%.

    On the bottom it makes reference to the “liberal committment to 2011 end date to our Afghan mission”

    Correction, that extention was approved in the HoC by Parliament in a vote that this MP voted against.
    Its Canada’s mission, not the liberals.

  • terry1

    Quebec does not have HST…..just to further point out your true ignorance.

  • wilson

    Did Harper, Duceppe and Layton go beyond'consultaions' and 'arrangements' to sign an agreement,
    that was also signed by every opposition MP
    and presented to the public and the GG?

    Were Dippers assigned Cabinet positions?

    Were separatists promised Senate seats and given a veto over legislation?

    no, no, and no.

  • terry1

    I simply meant in a nice way that they need a brainy easterner to get them results. sorry to disturb your nut bar coma.

  • wilson

    Then it also must have been too coincidental that in 1997, under the Chretien Harmonization Tax, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Nflnd/Lab all signed on too.

    You know diddly squat about harmonizing sales taxes terry,
    they did it to get competitive…and it works,
    not just in Canada, but globally too.

    I thought Iffy was big man on the global scene….doesn't he know that? Maybe he just hasn't got to that in his Economincs 101 class.

  • Spydyman

    Stephen, you’ve got one angry Dosanjh all atwitter over on twitter right now … As you know, he’s been baring his fangs at you all night through his tweets. Seeing him lathered up like that just compelled me to come over to your site and say …. Damned good job! :-)

  • wilson

    Like this 1997 $1 Billion Chretien bribery for tax harmonization?:

    ''…Ottawa facilitated (via a $1 billion transfer and free tax collection) the creation of a Harmonized Sales Tax for three Atlantic provinces (Newfoundland and Labrador, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia).
    The federal government also enticed Quebec to harmonize its PST with the Goods and Services Tax (GST) by allowing
    Quebec to collect the combined Ottawa-Quebec GST in the province and then to transfer the relevant share to Ottawa….''

    PSTs in the remaining five provinces remain non-harmonized with the federal GST, and do so at considerable economic cost since most PSTs
    end up taxing production inputs which then get embedded in the prices of exported goods.
    Converting these PSTs to a GST format would allow tax rebates on exports.
    Some federal incentives may be in order to bring the outlying provinces into the GST fold,
    especially since as already noted financial incentives were
    given (1997) to those four provinces that have now adopted the GST format…''

    pg 16
    http://www.irpp.org/wp/archive/wp2008-01.pdf

  • terry1

    Here you go boys and girls. CBC ran a huge story near the top of their newscast, a few minutes ago, featuring a videotape of the Reformatory leader at a no-media, no-public party gathering in the Sault.

    A sampling of what the Cons didn't want you to hear:

    · On his claim to be satisfied with a Parliamentary majority: “Let me be clear about this, we need to win a majority in the next election campaign…we need to win a majority…to teach them a lesson.”
    · On women, gays and minorities which are helped by a government program: “[They’re] left-wing fringe groups.”
    · On gun control: “We are still trying to get rid of that registry…we need a mandate to get that thing passed.”
    · On our international allies: “[We don’t poll] the U.N. General Assembly to determine Canada’s foreign policy.”
    · On judges: “[They’re] left-wing ideologues.”

    http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/news/features/harpe

    Enjoy your racist/sexist/ignorant leader at his best.

  • terry1

    mervin,

    I don't see reformatort support on the CBC site for that video:

    It is time to get rid of Harper and his Cons!!! We deserve Better!!! Harper is too much of a Right wing Ideologue!!!
    279 for
    115 against

  • terry1

    I hear rumours Harpo has been trying to get Karzai's Afghan voting booth scrutineers working for him in th election.

  • wilson

    ooooh, copy and paste off Spinsella, eh big T.

    Here's the actual video, PMSH making his case very clearly, Con majority or Iffy teams up with Dippers and the Bloc

    http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/news/features/harpe

  • terry1

    I could care less about the whole video which is all brainwashing crap. The important stuff has sbeen captured for the war room and it will generate more fallout than you can ever imagine.

    the head of government slurring judges/women/gays,etc. is completely ignorant.

  • Bec

    Lies, lies, lies. The poor fools just can't help themselves.

  • wilson

    That's the video Spinsella has on his blog and he says “Here's the entire video”,
    it is not edited, in all of your excitement, you got sucked into Spinsella….spinning….lol

  • wilson

    Did you watch the video Bec?
    Game on, no way Iffy can avoid answering the coalition of losers question now!!!
    go to 7:10

    ''Do not be fooled for a moment. If we do not get majority, the Liberals, NDP, BQ will combine and will form a government
    They will deny this until their blue in the face, in an election campaign, but I guarantee you, if we do not win a majority, this country will have a Liberal government propped up by the socialists and the separatists….

    http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/news/features/harpe

  • Bec

    This has become very entertaining! lol

  • Bec

    Absolutely! It's terrific!

    These guys are seriously demented!

  • Gayle

    Klein was not a red tory. Klein was in politics for one reason – himself. He loved those taxpayer funded private jets. He loved his Wednesday evening soirees where big business bent over backwards to please him. He loves his new post political life sitting on boards and consulting for big bucks. His only disappointment is that, in failing to privatize medicare, he failed to get in on the big US private health insurers who wanted to move in and make sure he made lots of money for his efforts in his behalf.

  • Gayle

    Does it really matter, when, in 2005 Harper was saying it is Okey dokey to be in government even though he had fewer seats than the other party, and he would only be able to stay in government if propped up by the Bloc?

    In fact, the only real difference between Harper 2006 and the coalition 2008 was that the coalition had a signed agreement by the Bloc wherein the Bloc agreed to give up its right to defeat the government. In case you cannot figure it out, that means what Harper was proposing in 2005 was unstable. So, if your point is that the LPC was far better at extracting an agreement for stability and good government than Harper was – well that is true.

  • Gayle

    wilson you are so funny. Why do you think the fact that Harper has repeated the same old tired talking points to an audience of his party faithful that suddenly Ignatieff “must” address Harper's false premise.

    You need to go back to political strategist school.

  • 2009nancer

    terro, NUT bar, NUTshell…a pattern is emerging. Tells me you are either a squirrley libber or a NUTty dipper. Hey, maybe you can tell us which shell those thieving libs hid all the money they stole from us under. And thats what Conservatives will continue to tell Canadians during the next election.

  • terry1

    nancer…your pattern is well emerged……….seek help

  • terry1

    Gayle, in my opinion Harpo has set a trap for himself with those remarks. Firstly, there is a pretty good video on utube that completely strips away any veneer that harpo was n ot inbed with duceppe in 2005. harper wrote to the GG, Duceppe clarified it was true and its all there.

    Secondly, its ovious that Harpo has given up on Quebec with those comments. The stupid part is that he then needs to win 155 out of 233 seats in the ROC for his majority. Isn't that brilliant strategy. It plays very well for Iggy who has certain appeal in Quebec that he can now use to reel in the nationalist votes as a lever to defeat harpo who is clearly anti Quebec.

  • terry1

    gayle I used red tory becasue Klein's actions, in my opinion, were down to mulroney standards in “good life” stuff.

  • terry1

    Wilson, you are truly brain dead.

  • terry1

    Gayle, further to my last post here is an article from Le Devoir stating that internal reformatort polls show they could lose up to 6 Quebec seats in an election. Now we know why harpo is yelling out in his desperate attempt for a majority. He just wants to stay alive and hopefully squeak out a narrow minority.

    I'm starting to really like where this potential election is heading.

  • terry1

    The article:

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=

    ” Thus, under this analysis, only Maxime Bernier (Beauce), Josee Verner (Louis-Saint-Laurent), Christian Paradis (Mégantic-l'Érable) and Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Jonquière-Alma) could sleep peacefully. Le siège des six autres élus est en danger s'il ya des élections cet automne (Lawrence Cannon, Sylvie Boucher, Denis Lebel, Steven Blaney et Daniel Petit). The headquarters of the six other elected officials is at risk if there are elections this fall (Lawrence Cannon, Sylvie Boucher, Denis Lebel, Steven Blaney, Daniel Petit).”

  • Gabby in QC

    [from Wiki]
    “GST is imposed at 5% in Part IX of the Excise Tax Act. GST is levied on supplies of goods or services made in Canada and include most products, except certain politically sensitive essentials such as groceries, residential rent, and medical services, and services such as financial services.” [my bolding]

    So why does Dosanjh's flyer state “Everything from food to housing will cost more”?

  • Truthfairy

    You must have worked very hard to get that big, disgusting hunk of excrement out or perhaps the Liberal train wreck unfolding scared it out. You may as well jump on the Iggy Choo Choo, go down with your fellow losers.

    Step out of your bunker, stop, look, listen, majority, almost 75% do not want an election, including many, many Liberals.

  • Gabby in QC

    Oooh! Wilson, you'd better listen to the professor in our midst, Gayle. She took some courses in constitutional law, you know, so she's expert on everything, including “political strategist school.”
    I bet you're shaking in your boots, eh? ;-)

  • MrEd256

    could be worse…at least the killings on the street seem to be centered in the places which are major Liberal strangle holds on the rest of the nation

  • MrEd256

    hmmm…”Red Tory”… I'd always understood that basically a Red Tory was a Liberal who's elected as a Tory … someone elected as a Tory who has tendancy's towards Liberal Red… are you complaining or are you confused?

  • MrEd256

    actually I was… but Terry and his trolls would have us all forget history for their re-writen one where PET is the second coming of Jesus, Jean was his first Diciple, Paul was his second, and Dion was the greatest mind since Einstein until Iffy came along to replace him without even the need for a party wide vote…

  • singlemaltwhisky

    It is obvious terry1 that you know little about the western canadian farmers who sold THEIR grain (wheat) into the U. S. themselves bypassing the Canadian Wheat Board (that name in and of its' self is a lie as only western canadian farmers are subject to the CWB rules) were charged and thrown in jail.

    There are more private for profit clinics in Montreal than the whole province of Alberta.

    If the best you can do is be childish and name call, go back to the play ground.

  • Bruce

    The outcry in B.C. is over the way the HST is to be implemented, the GST portion is not being applied to anymore Goods or Services than it applied previously, but the PST portion will now apply to myriad other Goods and Services, this is what is being seen as a massive tax grab by the B.C. provincial government. This same situation reared it's ugly head when the Maritime provinces moved to harmonize and was mitigated to a degree by lowering the PST portion at the time of harmonization, many in B.C. would like to see the same thing happen by lowering the PST portion from 7% to 5% or 6%.

    As for the raving leftist ,Dosanjh is running scared, he's knows as do many that his chances of re-election are now slim to none, his true colours are now coming out, he's showing us all what an unhinged moonbat he really is.

  • 2009nancer

    terro, looks like you're the one that needs to spend some quailty time on that couch.
    Sorry, you weren't hugged more as a child, I understand why, but still sorry.

  • Truthfairy

    Why? Because he's a fibber, it's the Liberal way when the truth doesn't suit their agenda.

    Dosey is not too happy, the folks might just boot him out when his leader gets support from his Troika gang to oust the government either pre- election or post if he gets enough seats to make a grab for power.
    I think Dosey's little red wagon is running on one wheel.

  • Truthfairy

    The shocker of shockers, the PM mentioned the M word at a party gathering.

    Well I've got news for the Professor of Opportunity, YES, Conservatives do want a majority to prevent the silly beggars, the Liberal party, himself included, from threatening to bring down the government for no good reason beyond grabbing power.

    Majority it must be, Liberals are inadvertently making that abundantly clear. It's also exposing them for what they are, power hungry for power's sake and nothing more. They're willing to cause all sorts of instability at a time when we are recovering nicely, all for power for themselves to get back into the hog trough to which they've become accustomed .

  • terry1

    Fairy…………. here's some truth serum for you to enjoy:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/co

    Now you can start another whine session.

  • Name

    Hey Stephen et al, the REAL story on the video “leak” of the PM's speech in the Sault is just in. Check it out on sootoday.com Turns out it was a Liberal party activist behind it all. Anyone surprised?

  • Cons_Rule

    I am sure you are none other than SCOTT TRIBE. the sadest liberal blogger out there. i have been comparing quotes and words back and forth across both sites. YOU ARE SCOTT!!

  • terry1

    cons_don't _rule……sorry pal…another wrong guess.

  • terry1

    I note with disgust flaherty's anouncement that the deficit is now going to be $56BB. Knowing how he has continuously and continuously lied we can now expect the deficit to hit my projected number of over $60BB. Achieved all in one year, isn't he amazing?

    Are you reformatort sheep happy to know he has borrowed all that money from you and I?

  • Truthfairy

    So damned amusing to see the man in the gray suit looking peckish, chewing on the latest bait tossed out.

    Majority is a word we're hearing more and more and it's all because of the outrageous unbelievable prospect of the Liberals with their coalition buddies triggering an election about nothing.

    We need a majority and it's not going to be a coalition majority, one of the partners only represents one province, that's not what federalism is all about.

  • terry1

    Another stupid answer from a reformatort.

    1. There will be no coalition with liberals in it although I suspect there could be one with the harpercrites and the bloc since one of their Quebec advisors has left and gone back to the bloc. Guess who really courts separatists in this Country

    2. Even if the Bloc only represents one province a coalition would have representation from across the country so a coalition is possibly the most representative government we could possibly have in today's environment.

  • Truthfairy

    No coalition with the Liberals in it? Wow, like wow! Can we take that to the bank?

  • Gayle

    Well, the funny thing is that Harper never seems to publicly ask for a majority. Do you think that might be because he fears a backlash from the voters? Didn't comments like that cost him the election in 2004? Didn't the Bloc have a successful campaign asking people to vote for them to prevent a Harper majority in 2008?

    That may be why Ignatieff is highlighting that comment from Harper. He wants voters to cast their votes to prevent a Harper majority.

  • Omanator

    Steve, Please fill me in. How do you arrive at the figure. Not that I would have anything against it.

  • Omanator

    David , You may have a point there. I wonder if they will use the same strategy in Ontario. After all the Liberal Brand in Ontario is in deep trouble. Not only about the HST, but for many other reasons as well. Since Ignatieff riding is in Ontario it would even may sense. I guess we will have to wait and see.

  • Janni

    terri1 Ever heard of a little ditty called the Canadian Wheat Board doughhead? Just search the term “wheat price differences Ontario vs Manitoba or Sask.” The CWB freezes prices for the “good of western farmers” and they get far less than wheat farmers in Ontario who are allowed (as they should be) to sell anywhere and to anyone for a true market price. You are a tiresome party groupie. Typically for you, it is only about the Party, not necesssarily the needs of everyday people.

  • Omanator

    Gayle, that was in 2004. By now People know Mr. Harper better and they have seen that the economy is rebounding. Mr. Ignatieff is doing Harper a favour. Mr. Harper does not have publy to ask for it. Every one knows ,this was a private and closed meeting. It looks rather bad on the person who did this. Since it was a Liberony it may well back fire.

  • Omanator

    Jen, a little reminder. Chretien sent our troups into Bosnia with no helmets, flakjackets you could poke a stick through, and jeeps with canvas doors, which the army did not want, and which were of course made by Chretiens Liberal cronies. When the bodybags with our men came home, Chretien
    had them classified as ” accidental death's”. Talk about a slime ball.

  • Omanator

    You ought to know. Theft and bribery was the operating word of the Liberonies.

  • Omanator

    You are only right in one thing. the Fall out. and it will surely go against the deceitful Liberonies,
    after all they are always cheeting.

  • Omanator

    Was there ever any doubt that a Liberal did this?

  • David

    The latest on the HST is that Iggy supports it. Mcguinty said so.Dosanjh will no doubt now start to refer to it as Iggy's tax….No?

  • MrEd

    lol…again with the numbers Terry1… what was oil and Natural gas at in January and where are they today? Alberta is 8 billion off of where they predicted provincially… that alone says the number should be more than 8 billion yet it's only 6 billion… Once Oil and Gas kick back in, which it will because it will take minimum 15 years, realistically 25 to change the USA over to some other fuel source, the numbers will reverse the trend… America will need their trade partners to help them turn the ship…

  • MrEd

    LOL… I wouldn't put much faith in that bank if owned by someone on the left side of the house…

  • Betty

    As a senior living under the poverty level, I will have to sell my house before the HST comes in on our Canada Day. I guess Campbell gave himself a reason to celebrate July the 1st. All the low income people and seniors will be hit the hardest. The HST will really help big business, and the saving, will be passed on to the consumer? In all my many years, I have never seen that happen. My furnace was set at 15 for winter, this year it will go down to 13. However, I know single moms and children, living on $8.00 will become homeless, those are the ones, that are really going to suffer the most. And Canada is free? Well I guess it is when you have to live outdoors, as least, so far, their hasn't been a tax on the air we breath yet.

  • Betty

    As a senior living under the poverty level, I will have to sell my house before the HST comes in on our Canada Day. I guess Campbell gave himself a reason to celebrate July the 1st. All the low income people and seniors will be hit the hardest. The HST will really help big business, and the saving, will be passed on to the consumer? In all my many years, I have never seen that happen. My furnace was set at 15 for winter, this year it will go down to 13. However, I know single moms and children, living on $8.00 will become homeless, those are the ones, that are really going to suffer the most. And Canada is free? Well I guess it is when you have to live outdoors, as least, so far, their hasn't been a tax on the air we breath yet.

  • Anonymous

      would it be considered
    against the law to say i had a dream that Harper died in a terrible plane crash
    and if i said it many hundreds of thousands time would it bring this dream to a
    colourful fruition?

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