Narnia found!
Michael Ignatieff recently filmed some relatively bland ads where he told us that Canada needs to reach out India and China and make the new green jobs of tomorrow. The ads were largely panned as too light and I speculate that they served to re-introduce the Liberal leader through a softer lens rather than allow the Tories to solely define Ignatieff as “Just Visiting”. Andrew Coyne joked that the ads looked like they were filmed in Narnia, and I was only too happy to take the meme and run with it.
Today, I’m pleased to report that Narnia has been located! The ads were shot at Cherry Beach in… wait for it… downtown Toronto. As critics rip into Michael Ignatieff for taking his advice from a tight circle of downtown Toronto Liberal advisers, as the Liberal leader appears out of touch with Quebec (let alone the rest of Canada), and as the Liberal Party is lovingly dubbed the Liberal Party of Toronto by both its detractors and realist supporters, Michael Ignatieff shoots his definition ad in downtown Toronto.
Michael Ignatieff in Narnia? Algonquin park? The hundred-acre wood?
Michael Ignatieff’s new favourite park. Cherry Beach in downtown Toronto.
Michael Ignatieff once famously said “The only thing I missed about Canada was Algonquin Park”, it appears that Ignatieff doesn’t miss it too much these days as he couldn’t be bothered to drive more than 3km from the airport, or 15 minutes from Rosedale or Yorkville.
Michael Ignatieff tells us that we need to reach out to India and China, while he himself is loathe to reach out past his Toronto bunker. Ignatieff tells us that we need to create green jobs as he lectures us from a park located on an man-made island peninsula in Toronto.
Stephen Taylor is a scientist, political analyst and a blogger. Taylor writes here regularly and is the founder of bloggingtories.ca. Taylor has contributed to Macleans, CTV, talk radio and has been a featured speaker on new media at numerous events including the Western Standard Cruise and the Forum for Public Policy. In December 2008, Taylor organized Rally for Canada, a series of rallies held coast-to-coast to protest the proposed coalition government.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Typo in your article “it appears that Ignatieff does miss it too much these days as he” I believe you “mean doesn't miss it too much”.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:32 am
It's obviously not the same place. It only matches on the right side. Having said that, kudos for not manipulating the photo to suit your delusional rantings.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Geesh ottawasteph…of course it is the same place- you do know that flowers and plants change over time…look at the three trees on the left.
Soooooo – it is 'obviously' the same place – minus the bear
September 29th, 2009 at 11:45 am
The Liberal party has become the party of Scott Bryson, Gerard Kennedy, and the like who are really so socilist in their ideas that they make Layton look right
September 29th, 2009 at 11:48 am
“scoop” was sarcastic of course.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Perhaps the next wilderness we'll find him in will be a shovel ready field in a liberal held ridding that the conservatives refuse to give any to. That may get the point across a little better than these adds have, albeit, these ads did serve as a good positive introduction
September 29th, 2009 at 11:56 am
*refuse to give any money to*
September 29th, 2009 at 11:58 am
*refuse to give any 'money' to*
September 29th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Thanks!
September 29th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
No matter where it is located it is still considered the enchanted forest where are good things Liberal are dreamt up.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Ask Dennis Coderre if he agrees with your assertion.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
are we now in grammar class? The poiint was made and that is what counts.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I've never understood the Conservatives' anti-Toronto pandering. If you're going to “stand up for Canada”, you need to stand up for all Canadians, including Torontonians. We need to move beyond divisive regional politics and remind ourselves that Canadians are stronger together.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
no problem. enjoy reading your articles.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
The new leader of The Bloc Torontois….
September 29th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I think it was the LIBERAL guy that put down Toronto.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
The accusations are coming from Liberals themselves. It was led by a remarkably cynical comment from an Lib MP and his supporters.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
I think the Toronto Bashing is not a conservative thing…it's more a liberal thing…i.e. Liberals claiming Conservatives bash Toronto… In the West we jokingly refer to Toronto as the center of the universe…it simply is in the Canadian business scape. Realistically though your comment cuts both was… “If you're going to “stand up for Canada”, you need to stand up for all Canadians, including Torontonians.” and conversely Torontonians need to look at the bigger picture… if not for Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver to a lesser degree their would be no Liberal party and the NDP wouldn't exist… that speaks volumes as to who has Canada's best interests at heart and who panders to the major 3 cities and cultural vote bases like the Tamils and other non-Canadian interest groups who arrived here on the P.E.T. immigration express and continue to vote Liberal because they know or understand nothing else…because lets face it…besides us bloggers and those really into politics the Average Canadian has been turned off of politics
September 29th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
For God's sake, who cares?
September 29th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
you did… enough to comment
September 29th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
yes, we're all very terrible people. /sarcasm
September 29th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
continuity would dictate that the tree sway erratically from left to right depending on the weather
September 29th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
and I enjoy writing them!
September 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
meh, I had some time to kill.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
The bear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2xJstJ_2nw
September 29th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
“conversely Torontonians need to look at the bigger picture”
I agree with that. I grew up in southern Ontario and today I live in the prairies, so I see both sides of these kinds of issues. I think that we all need to make an effort to move beyond regional politics and toward a more co-operative model of federalism. I think that there are legitimate criticisms that can be raised about how our status quo treats certain regions unfairly, and we should absolutely try to address those issues. But I don't think it's helpful when that debate devolves into region bashing one way or the other.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Would love to talk about Ignatieff's policies, though I have to wait until he comes up with them.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Kady O'Malley says:
“As a friend of the non-Liberal persuasion pointed out to ITQ last night, if you charted the last few months of Liberal poll numbers alongside Ignatieff’s disappearance from the political landscape, you could rightly conclude that his best strategy for the next election will be to spend it holed up in an underground silo somewhere in Narnia. Still, you’re stuck with him for the moment, so you may as well make the best of it — and leave the preemptive post-mortem performing to us professionals.”
That underground silo in Narnia would be downtown Toronto.
Instead of reaching out to India and China, he should be reaching out beyond Toronto.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
You could find the same flora anywhere south of 60° in Canada. The possibilities are endless.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Stephen Taylor….I hope you realize I was being sarcastic. My attempt at humour failed I guess.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
haha oh my. I love that you found this spot. Too funny.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Are you saying that the great Iffy tried to pull a fast one on Canadians?
This is sweet Stephen! Thanks – it's worthy of wide WIDE sharing to my family, friends.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Stephen, is that the best you can do? Who gives a rat's a$$ about that location?
Why not tell us why harpo needs to run away from parliament to deliver his economic lies. Was he afraid of being laughed out of the house?
September 29th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Socialist isn't an argument, it's an economic philosophy, and therefore I disregard your comment as pedantic.
Go ahead look it up, Gerard Kennedy told me to use it.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Seriously. Grow up.
Who cares if it was shot in Toronto?
I'm sick of the Conservatives and the lowest common denominator politics. Why can't you talk about real issues? Seriously. You guys are disgraceful sometimes.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
We'll talk about real issues when the world-renowned thinker named Michael Ignatieff proposes some actual policy. For those of us paying attention, we haven't seen much offered from the Liberal leader.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Hmmm, it seems to be more of a man-made peninsula!
September 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Did anyone catch Dominic LaBlanc on From the Hill saying that the party is very strong in Quebec and there are no problems anywhere. It is all just Codere's ego.
Again, the cbc talkers laughed at him.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Fret not, it has been confirmed.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
“Who cares” seems to be the common line from the Liberal folks in this thread. Is there a mailing list out there that I haven't subscribed to?
September 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I think he was there. It's the post production work that makes it look sort of dreamlike
September 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
The Globe and Mail seemed to care enough about this “trivial” issue
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/th...
September 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
The bear was Mercer's best in a while.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Yes, no worries.
I was just looking for a place to plug in that paragraph
September 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Reminds me of the time earlier last week when Iggy showed up at the wrong field in Burlington, ON.
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullco...
“A senior party strategist noted that the Liberal advance team, seeking to highlight the government's alleged tardiness in spending stimulus money, had used the wrong field for an Ignatieff photo op last week, and that the park wasn't scheduled for construction until next year anyway. “In our rush to dump Stephane Dion, we have given ourselves John Turner,” he sighed.”
September 29th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
There are bears in downtown Toronto?
Is it true that Gerrard Kennedy has introduced a private member's bill to rename Toronto Narnia?
September 29th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
more likely he wanted to get the message out completely in one un interupted pressentation before some a$$hole rudly interupted him… that said the details were released to parliment simultaniously regardless of the fact Igneative had already prepared a vote of non-confidence
September 29th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
MI: We demand a report card X 4! That's the only way we will support this government and try to save face while we're doing it.
SH: Oh, you'll get those 4 reports, Mikey, BUT they'll be delivered to 'ordinary' Canadians in places of my choosing. Now try not to fall on your face getting off your high horse.
Score: SH 1 MI 0
September 29th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
IgNarcist is only reaching out to Chinese and Indian voters.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
It's their new slogan.
“We can do better” flopped.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
*puts on CSI hat* Okay, the angles of the two shots are slightly out which means backgrounds in 3D including foliage are somewhat unreliable. The most reliable (and obvious) anchor point for both shots is the leaning tree, so let's use that. First, we have to agree on a unit of measurement and I would suggest the length of one of Iggy's eybrows is usable.
You will note in both shots, there appears to be a broken branch protruding from the main trunk about one Iggy Brow (1 IB) in length. If you travel up the main trunk in the first shot, about 1 IB, you will see a dark area with a white “dot” on it. This corresponds to a dark area, same distance up, in the second shot.
If you travel down the main trunk from the broken branch in the second shot, say about 1.5-2.0 IB, you will see two lateral score marks perpendicular to the bark grain. They are each about 1/2 the thickness of the main trunk with the top one starting on the left side running toward the centre and the bottom one starting on the right side, also running towards the centre. The are separated by 1/2 IB (approximately). These score marks can be seen correlated to the two dark slashes in the first photo. A case could also be made for a fainter score mark just below the broken branch stub.
There you have it, your Honour. I recommend that bail be denied and we should all go out for mojitos and wings.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
All joking about the park aside. You are missing the most important point. Denny Coderre, is making clear to Iggy, that he has to treat Quebec better. After all Quebec is better than any other
Province and deserves it. When some pollester says this whole disagreement would have no effect on the next poll I disagree. The Block will make hay out of this.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I see you are in a very playful mood today Stephen. Love it! I will also be campaigning for the Iggy Brow to be officially recognised as an SI unit!
September 29th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
We've hit the second largest deficit in our history, and you are looking for a forest. Methinks you can't see the forest for the trees; but did you notice the shovel-ready project we'll announce in the far right corner of the shot?
September 29th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Funny it didn't bother you that Stephen Harper become the first prime minister in Canadian history to go into a televised debate without a platform
September 29th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Good forest..strong roots.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Andrew, of course they nitpick . They will do and say anything to avoid the real facts of life.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Oh my…the enablers are restless!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Harpo also porogued parliament because he had no policies then either.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Mervin, of course we are in grammar class…………reformatorts have nothing better to do than spell check. Ask your friend Gabby.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
actually no… he porogued parliament to stop a koo that would have colapsed Canada's economy and potentially resulted in the colision in calling for the military to enforce marshial law…something only the Liberals under PET have the honor of having the claim for in Quebec..
September 29th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
refreshing honesty Taylor, what would partisans do without the fodder.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
He didn't say it was an argument. Do you get hard trying to sound intelligent?
September 30th, 2009 at 12:34 am
the lies you hear from your leaders are now folklore I see.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Yusime…its actually harpo who has become the biggest socialist in his zeal to keep the perks of office. I call a $60BB deficit socialist thinking
September 30th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Ok my bad, thought he was saying something there. I understand now that I was wrong and it was just noise, thank you for correcting me.
Also I apologize for having a vocabulary and using it, here is a link to google next time I use a confusing word you can now look it up and feel a part of the conversation.
http://www.google.ca
September 30th, 2009 at 7:04 am
You are cute when you act superior. It is very liberal of you.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Also a well founded argument, you should be in politics, that kind of sidestepping the issue and appealing to the lowest common denominator could only help you get elected.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:23 am
“I understand now that I was wrong and it was just noise”
Right – I should stick to the “issues” like you do.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:39 am
“He didn't say it was an argument.”
Sorry if it's not an argument then it's just noise. I apologized for my misinterpretation, thought he was using the word socialist to disparage someone. You corrected me by rightly pointing out the same thing I said in that he wasn't making an argument at all.
Honestly after reviewing your comments I see that your not really saying anything either except making assumptions about my politics, and trying to colour me as an elitist.
Just think what we could accomplish if we stopped jabbing at each other and actually attempted to make an argument. Sadly this is a political commentary so it would be out of step with the theme wouldn't it?
September 30th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Phew…
September 30th, 2009 at 7:44 am
koo eh?
Like a Dove koo, because I have heard that happen before and it didn't collapse anything.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:10 am
don't you?
September 30th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Cherry beach is not in downtown Toronto.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Check the map
September 30th, 2009 at 10:03 am
it has never happened in recent history where a party with the sole intent of breaking up a nation has been given veto control over same country's future
September 30th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Short memory MrEd?
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/11/23/ottaw...
Let me guess, but that was different right?
September 30th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
September 30th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
I guess all of those news reports about the “coalition” were lies and folklore too???
October 1st, 2009 at 12:32 am
Which coalition…the reformatort one in 2005 or the Liberal one in 2008.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:56 am
Is this the accountibility Canmadians can expect from the reformatort liars:
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/703628
“Critics say it is just further proof the port authority has been supplanted by Tory faithful and has become little more than a partisan arm of the Conservative government, but a port authority official says it was all a simple transgression.”
AND HERE IS THE MINISTER'S ANSWER:
“Transport Minister John Baird said he was assured by the arm's-length agency that it wouldn't happen again.”
THIS GOVERNMENT IS NOTHING BUT AN UNSUPERVISED GOON SQUAD
October 1st, 2009 at 8:29 am
Actually I have a great memory… from your own reference you may want to read it… “That would mean Prime Minister Paul Martin's minority Liberal government would fall, triggering an election call on Nov. 29 and a campaign during the holiday season”
… this was a vote of non-confidence…totally different than a “Colision of Losers”…the three party's who failed to win enough seats to form gov't joining together to sleaze power…
The article you refernce clearly states it was not an attempt of the parties in question to form gov't…
and before you jump on the CPC and Bloc discussing this same issue back when Belinda crossed the floor and Cadmen voted with the Liberals (because his family would not receive any parlimentary death benifits if parlament desolved and he was not a seated member but in the midst of an election campaign when he died…which he would have been) I'll remind you that there was never any Veto Power provided the Bloc and the intent was to force a non-confidence vote and trigger an election
October 1st, 2009 at 9:19 am
mred……………….more garbage from you.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:21 am
it's 6 blocks south of front st. I think you're depending too much on the technical to make your point. It's like saying the Toronto Island airport isn't “downtown”
October 1st, 2009 at 9:27 am
confirmed in the Toronto Star: http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/703107
“It is hard to imagine anyone taking to a podium to denounce the preponderance of Montrealers working in politicians' offices – a fact of life stretching back decades in Ottawa – or Calgarians, for that matter. But Toronto seems to evoke a special stigma in its perceived influence behind the scenes in politics.
Ignatieff's advisers, for instance, have gone to great pains to obscure the fact that the recent wave of TV ads, featuring the leader in a woodland glade, were filmed in Toronto, at Cherry Beach.
And none of the advisers who call Toronto their hometown – chief of staff Ian Davey, communications director Jill Fairbrother, principal secretary Dan Brock – wanted to talk yesterday.”
October 1st, 2009 at 9:55 am
LMAO…you are too funny. So let me see if I can sum up your tempest in a tea cup… A woman MP asks former co-workers who are like minded (otherwise she'd have not likely saddled herself with them while working in an authority position) asks them to help out and volinteer on their own time to help send invitations and invite other people whom they know are like minded and formerly worked together with to an event… Instead of stealing the contact list and taking it home to email people as many people would they instead send out some emails to these people and a few go to the wrong people who run to the Red Star screaming the “sky is falling”, “uproar”, “wah wah wah”, “etc,…”
and based on this you come to the biased conclusion that “THIS GOVERNMENT IS NOTHING BUT AN UNSUPERVISED GOON SQUAD”???
What are you smoking and where can the rest of us get some Terry1?
On second thought strike that…please let us know so We can avoid it, your world sounds awefully dark and paranoid to the rest of us… I bet you think 9/11 was a conspiricy and that excuse “I never had sexual relations with that woman” translated to Clinton never cheating on his wife with Monica…
October 1st, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Ah, sorry I get it, thought you were getting all upset that the Libs may topple the gov, but no your still upset about the coalition.
First, the three parties do represent more people than the PC/Reform/Canadian Alliance/Conservatives. I believe we would get a better government if politicians were willing to work with each other more, but it is not that status quoe and like proportional representation it threatens the established norms we hold so that is out.
Second, I am sorry but so long as we have a party in power that won't consult with the people it needs to consult with to maintain that power we are going to have minority governments that last a year or so and fail.
Third. I also don't believe the bloc wants to break up the nation, although I do agree there is money to be made in the posturing that they do. Squeaky wheel and all.
Fourth. the only difference between the Coalition you are upset about and the Lib or NDP propping up the Con's like they have and may be is that it was put into a working document that would likely of resulted in more governmental stability (yes provided the people would accept it).
As for the other stuff you mentioned I don't really care if Belinda walked across the floor, (it's been done before it'll be done again it's politics) and Cadmen is dead so should that issue die.
October 1st, 2009 at 1:20 pm
my idea of good spin is the fact that the Harpercrites have said virtually nothing about that EI money and they have yet to put it in a separate fund. So your BS doesn't fly on that issue.
Iggy would not have gutted the GST and therefore the deficit would not be structural as its now designed. I beleive harpo has designed the defict to be cleaned up by the next liberal government as has always happened. That will give the country another 13 years of good solid government when it soon happens.
October 1st, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Mervin, I've asked the guy who Harpo dumped in McCallum's riding and he told it like it is. he says the reformatort party is a puppet show.
October 1st, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Its not that incident alone but the preponderance and abundance of those types of events like having harpo's picture pasted all over government of Canada ads on stimulus, bribing tory ridings only with stimulus money without regard to any other needy areas. The list of tory lies and deceipt goes on.
October 1st, 2009 at 1:52 pm
This event apparently happened quite close to Narnia:
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/703928
Ethics commissioner to investigate Lisa Raitt
October 1st, 2009 at 2:04 pm
LOL…you're funny when I'm right and you're well…limited
October 1st, 2009 at 2:07 pm
and the reason for no word on it….ummmm, duh… they're not in campaign mode bubba. wait until another 2 years have gone by and parliment is desolved… it'll be in campaign ads…front and center
October 1st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
lies terry…you have to resort to lies? how could you… Stimulous funds are being given to mainly Tory ridings…that's likelt because they're the ridings outside of Toronto…. Toronto and Montreal got more than their fare share of stimulous money directly and they choose how to spend it…
perhaps you could provide a list of your needy ridings? would that be like the park that won't complete for 7 years with stimulous money Iffy was all happy abuot where the Mayor Spanked Iffy in the same interview pointing out it would have been 12 years without the money?
and as for his picture everywhere with Gov't of Canada ads… um, he's the acting PM… would you rather see pictures of long dead people like PET? Santa Claus? Prince Caspian? Obama?
October 1st, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Don't know if anyone's pointed this out yet, but algonquin parks the big park 3 hours north of toronto, albion hills is the one about 20k from the airport, but algonquin is closer to ottawa.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Maybe if you read stuff that wasn't BS from your own partisan sources you might understand more of what goes on. Gerard Kennedy has written a concise report on the abuse of stimulus money and has asked fatso Baird every day to explain certain awards in specific parts of the country. All he gets back is the typical bluster of zilch from that AH.
Its apparent you are full of shite just like Baird
October 1st, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I'd love to read that report. Do you have a copy/link?
October 1st, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Maybe your reformatort masters have limited your computer's search capabilities to party approved sites!!!!
Here it is:http://www.liberal.ca/pdf/docs/240909_inaction_plan.pdf
October 1st, 2009 at 6:34 pm
If you're too ignorant to read facts that's no ones fault but your own:
1. The SC court said the Liberals move of EI funds to general accounts was illegal but the reformatorts have not moved any new EI money into that separate fund and conti nue to put the money into general revenues.
2. I don't know what sites you have shut me on..probablky ones I haven't gone back to as dealing with ignorant a$$h**es like you is pretty damn easy. Canada is for sure resource export Country;that's not rocket science even for you I see. However, natural gas prices are way down and show no sign of recovery any time soon due to a more or less permanent oversupply that is now happening due to new NGL terminals in the US that can receive billions of CF of natural gas at lower prices than Canada can produce its conventional gas. The economics you choose to use are voodoo stuff that only a reformatort could produce. There is no way in hell that our export profits will offset $160BB of combined deficits and growing. Every economist in the Country says you are full of crap.
3. Canada is the richest natural resource country in the world but also has a government with the worst economic profile in the western world even worse than the Bush regime. Flaherty still hasn't told the tuth about the real deficit this year which will blow past $60BB….ALL IN ONE YEAR.
DO YOU GET IT YET, STUPID
October 1st, 2009 at 6:52 pm
I'm not so much limited as I am way ahead of you. I don't have to lower my pants to give mybrain feesh air.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 am
It appears that we are running into the collum so I'll bow to some of your points as we appear to be snowballing on issues.
Glad to hear a perspective that is thought out although I do not necessarily agree with you.
Incidentally where did you hear that the coalition was thought out before the election, that is not the way I heard it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
One other thing that should be pointed out because Iffy seems to want to ignore this… over 297 cases of civil unrest happen on a daily basis in China… almost 300 a day!!! in the next 15 years over 50% of the standing ground troops, trained military fighting men and women will reach the age of manditory retirement and be assimilated back into the general population…
So Mr Iffy, What do you think is going to happen in China when the people who are being suppressed outnumber the people doing the suppressing and those who make up the population are trained in the art of war?
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
so you're not wearing pants??? thats too much information thanks
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
ED, did I say I wasn't wearing pants……..as usual you reformatorts read what you want in any sentence.
Are you the talking horse or the stalking one
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
your understanding of human anatomy being such…”I don't have to lower my pants to give my brain feesh air.” (I think you ment Fresh) infered I had to do something I didn't to breath… It infered you needed to do this to get oxygen to your own brain and since you clearly stated you did not need to drop your own pants so eloquantly you must not be wearing pants… or the normal way you wear them is over your head and tied off around you neck cutting the oxygen supply to your brain … that is a given …for most people, we breath through our mouths or noses… my guess is you're a mouth breather…
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Ignatieff, the Liberal Party and Toronto … three things Canada would be a better place without. It's a shame he couldn't take the latter two with him when he heads back to Harvard after the next election.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
One other thing that should be pointed out because Iffy seems to want to ignore this… over 297 cases of civil unrest happen on a daily basis in China… almost 300 a day!!! in the next 15 years over 50% of the standing ground troops, trained military fighting men and women will reach the age of manditory retirement and be assimilated back into the general population…
So Mr Iffy, What do you think is going to happen in China when the people who are being suppressed outnumber the people doing the suppressing and those who make up the population are trained in the art of war?
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
so you're not wearing pants??? thats too much information thanks
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
ED, did I say I wasn't wearing pants……..as usual you reformatorts read what you want in any sentence.
Are you the talking horse or the stalking one
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:45 pm
your understanding of human anatomy being such…”I don't have to lower my pants to give my brain feesh air.” (I think you ment Fresh) infered I had to do something I didn't to breath… It infered you needed to do this to get oxygen to your own brain and since you clearly stated you did not need to drop your own pants so eloquantly you must not be wearing pants… or the normal way you wear them is over your head and tied off around you neck cutting the oxygen supply to your brain … that is a given …for most people, we breath through our mouths or noses… my guess is you're a mouth breather…
October 3rd, 2009 at 1:51 am
Ignatieff, the Liberal Party and Toronto … three things Canada would be a better place without. It's a shame he couldn't take the latter two with him when he heads back to Harvard after the next election.