• terry1

    Yes the picture was taken at Sears in the same spot as the blue sweater photo of Harpo was taken….is that ok?

  • terry1

    If you think being part of the political is the only preparation for higher office then why bother with voting so often. Elect the MP's once an me them all independent and then let them appoint the PM. That's the kind of nonsense you are promoting.

    The Libs don't need iggy to be that experienced as they have a ton of experienced people in their shadow cabinet and in the senate. Their senate appointees are not all from the MSM.

  • TwoYen

    Amen, Gabby.

    More than anything I resent Libberals who have expropriated my country as their own.

    Liberal values are NOT Canadian values, thank god.

  • Bruce

    Ignatieff is just the puppet plaything of the Bloc Torontois Champaigne Sipping Liberal Socialist Elites who will toss Iggy under the bus with the same cold blooded heartlessness that they used on the hapless Stephane Dion before him as soon as Iggy is no longer of any use.

  • hollinm

    There is only one person spouting nonsense on these boards…and that is you
    Parnel. We are comfortable where we stand on the issues but on the other
    hand you never know what is going to come spilling forth from that
    cosmopolitan intellectual elitist you call a leader.

  • terry1

    TwoYen/Gabby…the country Dryden and others talk about getting back is the Country of about 70% of all Canadians. It is you who has it wrong and it is your very small minority of very right wing supporters of Harper who support him financially much more than any other element of that party that is trying to gain control of the agenda. thake you party back to being progessive vs hard core right andyou might see less vitriol. your blind support of Harper is driven by anti Liberal drivel and not any particular ideal that Harper espouses. That's where you would regret voting him into a majority and you should thank Canadians like me who see through his veneer and are determined to make sure he never makes it.

    Reform values are not even close to Canadian values and fit in George Bush's discredited mess.

  • terry1

    You are comfortable on what issues, Mevin? The denials and lies that become issues way after the fact, like the deficit and the recession or the $50BB deficit that I'm willing to wager goes to $60BB by fiscal year end.

    I'm comfortable that over 70% of all Canadians don't like Harpo's ideology and that includes many conservative voters who are from the former progressive Conservatives and have been totally ignored by the party apparatus. That won't last much longer.

    I'm comfortable that a liberal goverment will attack issues like unemployment and will stimulate the economy in a real way and not by hooking onto existing projects already announced. I'm comfortable that a Liberla will treat all Canadians equally and not pour money into select segments of our society.

    You can wail and moan all you want but the facts are there and sooner or later the left will align itself. Of the 181 seats in Central Canada the left won around 13o of those;plus almost 75% of the maritime seats….think about that while you get more more and more angry as all Tories do.

  • Wajid

    LOL.

    Found this apparently authentic amateur NDP effort here as well, pretty damn funny. Slams Warren Kinsella’s recent, and characteristically staggering hypocrisy when Jack and the PM had their recent unproductive but cordial meeting.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOv77Q3EhtU

    Enjoy, Tory compatriots on mine.

  • Wajid

    LOL.

    Found this apparently authentic amateur NDP effort here as well, pretty damn funny. Slams Warren Kinsella’s recent, and characteristically staggering hypocrisy when Jack and the PM had their recent unproductive but cordial meeting.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOv77Q3EhtU

    Enjoy, Tory compatriots on mine.

  • hollinm

    First of all votes are not fungible and so until the NDP decides they want
    to join the Libs you are stuck with the current reality.

    You said: “will attack issues like unemployment and will stimulate the
    economy” If a $50 billion deficit doesn't stimulate the economy then nothing
    will. Oh, I know the Libs would spend differently. I know how. Create
    another program to buy their friends so they can buy votes in Quebec.
    Message to Parnel the government does not create jobs (unless everybody is
    going to work for the government). They create the environment to create
    jobs. How will the Libs do that. I guess that will be kept for the campaign.
    Lets see Iggy get that message out when he is busy defending the coalition,
    war, Bush, terror, being an American and Britain being his favourite
    country.

    It is the Libs who are name callers and are angry. They are angry because
    most Canadians believe the PM is best to handle the economy. Watch the polls
    this week Parnel. Iggy is forcing an election and your polls are going to go
    south.

    As I told you before Conservatives are not unhappy with where they are
    today. They know what they stand for while the Libs are searching for a
    savior (its not Iggy) and struggle to find a winning formula to beat back
    the Conservatives.

    Trust me Parnel we had these same conversations when Dion was leader. You
    jumped on the bandwagon cheering your leader to oblivion.

  • hollinm

    Parnel….read it and weep. I told you that the polls will only get worse.
    Iggy is on the path to no return.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ne

  • terry1

    you also leaped for joy when the rogue poll came out two weeks ago. This ome's just about as accurate. EKOS and NANOS are the only two to follow right now. EKOS becasue thye are polling more than enough people,over 2,000 per weekly poll and Nanos becasue he knows how to poll accurately and consistently.

  • terry1

    Mervin, that's your best shot? wow are you ever slipping. Fisrt of all my point was to make sure you understnad that that you creepy Reform types are not in the majority in Canada. The real majority resides with red tories and liberals and those forces need to coalesce. sooner than later Harpo will drive that to happen as he continues to keep his progressives hidden.

    The rest of your diatribe was just drivel from your rat infested province.

  • terry1

    Mervin, further.

    Harpo is very vulnerable right now and that scares the hell out of you and the 12/16 hours a day you spend posting (whining) to every blog and newspaper in the land

  • takedeadaim

    I'm one of those guys that Iggy could potentially convince to vote Liberal (for the first time in many many years).

    I've been a loyal conservative voter but Harper hasn't done what he said he would do, and to me that has always been what has separated the Liberals from the Conservatives: Liberals say what they need to in order to win, regardless of what they've promised, and Conservatives stay faithful to their end of the political spectrum and play with whatever cards they're dealt as a result.

    Harper successfully moved his party as far to the centre as its going to probably get while still keeping all the various factions together, and ran an extremely effective election campaigns with clear messages that resonated with voters. But in the last 2 years he's been doing what Liberals do, which is do and say whatever keeps you in power, probably internally justifying it with “well if the OTHER guy gets in this chair, he's really gonna screw things up”.

    So i wouldn't call myself an completely undecided voter, but certainly my vote is up for grabs for the first time since the 80s.

    So unlike most of you on here who already know how you're going to vote, i'm looking at these ads with an 'ok, convince me' attitude.

    I suspect these are just introductory ads trying to set the bar for Iggy as a big picture, global leader. They're not bad, but they're not really good either.

    And just like harper's 2nd campaign against Martin, you have to be really good to swing the pendulum.

    Still, we're probably 2 months away from an election, and that's a lifetime in election politics.

    Incidentially, my inlaws are lifelong Liberal supporters (and volunteers for years as well) but voted against the Liberals for the first time in the last election (Thornhill, Peter Kent's riding). My father-in-law summed up his position as of today: “Harper hasn't been great, but he hasn't been that bad either, all things considered”.

    Again, i'm inclined to vote conservative by nature, but the Libs need voters like him if they want the election map to change, and they don't sound like they're close to changing his mind.

  • hollinm

    Of course any poll that does not favour the Libs is an outlier.

    Think what you will about IR poll but they are a reputable firm and they
    would not “cook” the books for the Conservatives and you know it.

    Give it a rest parnel. Accept the fact that Iggy is not catching on with
    Canadians.

    His bland ad in front of a fake forest ain't going to cut it other than with
    the kool-aid drinking Libs crowd. What about the flag of Monaco and Poland
    eh? You guys can't shoot straight when it comes to making videos.

  • hollinm

    As long as enough people vote Conservative in this country to elect us to
    government that is all we need.

    Parnel I wouldn't get too cocky. Only 26% had any use for Libs last time
    out.

    Progressive hidden agenda. Well if he has one then we certainly don't need
    the Libs do we.

    Your last comment does not deserve a response. It only reflects badly on you
    and emphasizes the fact you and the Libs are desperate.

  • Truthfairy

    Not looking too good for the Liberals in Quebec, appears they're on a slide. I'd say Iggy greased their butts, he's taking them nowhere fast, puffin poop does not a good foundation make.

    An election would really fix things for them big time, it will give them all the time they need to rebuild their crumbling house. People like Coderre, or Rae are not going to do it either.

  • singlemaltwhisky

    The CPC has more small donors than the Liebranos. It is not a small minority of right wing people, it is a large number of regular Canadians that contribute financially (average approx $130 a year), because CPC represents their values not some holier than thou pie in the sky dream fest. If you are gonna spout off get your facts straight. It was the PET Liberals that put programs into the budget that became structural line items that needed continued funding thus resulting in structural deficits in the 70's, which were compounded by the NEP, high interest and recession of the 80's.

  • terry1

    Mervin, this blast from the past is a good indicator of what could happen. Keep sticking your chest out but hang on to your suspenders so they don't bust and leave you exposed:
    …………………………………………….
    NEWS
    Campbell best-liked PM in 30 years: poll
    By Edison Stewart TORONTO STAR
    16 August 1993

    OTTAWA – Kim Campbell has the highest approval rating of any Canadian prime minister in 30 years, according to a Gallup poll.

    Slightly more than half of the respondents – 51 per cent – approve of how she is handling her job while only 22 per cent disapprove, the survey found.

    “Not since the days of Lester B. Pearson (who hit 56 per cent in 1963) has a Canadian prime minister received as high an approval rating as Kim Campbell does today,” Gallup reported.

    The only other prime minister to receive a higher rating since 1957 was John Diefenbaker, who hit 52 per cent in 1959.

  • terry1

    there is an interesting utube video on the blogsite of :

    http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/

    I'm sure you will all enjoy some rather interesting facts.

  • terry1

    Mervin, here''s another news story from the first week of that campaign(I don't think I need to repeat the news form the actual election that year):
    News
    ELECTION '93 THE GLOBE POLL: Poll shows PCs, Liberals neck and neck Campbell popularity key to rise in Tory support, Globe survey finds
    by Hugh Winsor GLOBE AND MAIL
    16 September 1993

    Pushed by the strongly positive public perception of their Leader, Kim Campbell, the Conservatives have caught up to and may have edged past the Liberals as the popular vote choice of Canadians, a new Globe and Mail”ComQuest Research Group poll indicates.

    The poll of 1,446 eligible voters taken between Sept. 8 and Sept. 14, the first week of the election campaign, found that on a national basis the Progressive Conservative Party had the support of 36 per cent of people who have made up their mind or are leaning toward a specific party, compared with 33 per cent for the Liberal Party, 11 per cent for the Reform Party, 10 per cent for the Bloc Quebecois, 8 per cent for the New Democrats and 2 per cent for the National Party.

  • terry1

    Did Harper break the law or is he just dishonest?:

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Harper+2008

    That suit, filed last September, was being heard Tuesday before Justice Michel Shore of the Federal Court of Canada.

    “If Democracy Watch wins, the Federal Court will rule that Prime Minister Harper is a dishonest lawbreaker because he gave false reasons for calling the snap federal election last September in violation of his own fixed-election-date law,” Duff Conacher said.

    “If Democracy Watch loses, the court will rule that Prime Minister Harper is a dishonest promise-breaker because he failed to keep his 2006 election promise to pass a law fixing election dates.”

    Democracy Watch lawyer Peter Rosenthal argued Tuesday that a plain reading of the legislation governing election dates, combined with comments made by Conservative MP Rob Nicholson — justice minister at the time of the bill's introduction — support the contention that Harper should not have been able to ask Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean to dissolve Parliament last September.
    …………………………

    I think he both broke the law and is dishonest as well.

  • terry1

    The CRAP party definitely has moere small donors than the Libs but the day is soon coming when the libs will have both more donors and more donations from each. Its called commitment!!!!!

    I would say you are the one spouting off because you are obviously unaware of Iggy's recent track record in signing new members. The Libs now have over 100,000 members. How many does the reformatort party have ? And how many are outside of Western Canada.

    PET did nothing of the kind. Any program he put in place could and should have been cancelled by future governments once they ran their course. Mulroney clearly failed in that department.

    Back to the books,single malt……..but do it sober this time.

  • singlemaltwhisky

    The CPC has well over 160,000 donors on an annual basis. It balloons to over 250,000 during an election year. How many members has he racked up in western CDA, doesn't even come close to what the CPC has in eastern membership? If it wasn't for the $1.95 per vote the Libranos would be broke. Since 2005 the CPC has averaged over $22 million a year, the Libs barely $8 million.

    PET grew the national debt at a higher rate in more expensive dollars during his tenure with structural programs ( which were permanent)that he implemented. He also borrowed the money at short periods of time with the majority of his debt maturing during the highest interest rate period this country had ever seen, which he renewed for longer period then he did before, cause he knew he was not going to win the next election. The deficits the ole' Irish Chin raked up was equivalent to the interest payments on PETS debt. Just look at the annual audited reports.

    With the good stuff you only drink a dram or two. That cheap gallon jug wine you must be lifting to your flapping lips have obviously clouded your judgement.

  • hollinm

    Oh Parnel I know times are tough for Libs and will be even tougher tomorrow
    when Nanos shows his new poll.

    Having to scrape up a 16 year old newspaper article to make a point. What
    point would that be?

    Unlike you who believe that the Libs have a divine right to govern and
    nothing should change that perception I do realize that politics is a tough
    business. However, the problem for the Libs is that they finally have a
    worthy opponent and cannot figure out what he will do next.

    How do you like the appointment of Dewar. When Harper asked me about it I
    said go for it (just kidding).

    Parnel look at the news coverage. Look at the columnists opinions. Look at
    what Canadians are saying. They do not want an election and yet your
    intellectual, cosmopolitan, arrogant leader ignores it all. So go forward at
    your peril and see what happens.

    The tide has changed and it is not in the Libs favour. Harper is going to
    win a majority government this time out and your guys will have 4 years to
    track down a new saviour.

  • Truthfairy

    More bad news for the Liberals tomorrow.

  • terry1

    mervin, just how tough is it? Do you see iggy and his tema running for the hills? Even the other opposition parties are jumping on board. They semll tory blood!!!

    As for the 16 year old ad…it simply says that campaigns are what elects governments not pre election polls. You choose to ignore the similarity that is ab out to happen.

    the tide has changed all right and Harper will be swept out by the undertow.

    Iggy is baout to show you ignaorant Saskatooners just how smart he is. He might even help sink some rats for you.

    you're starting to whine and get blustery…..good sign for the Libs.

  • terry1

    SINGLE MALT, you've been down in the cellar sniffing those old barrels again. your stats are as drunk as you are. Go sleep it off.

  • hollinm

    Keep drinking that swill Parnel. We will all see what we will see. Once
    again you said many of the same things about Dion and Harper is back in
    government with a stronger minority.

  • terry1

    The swill is the garbage fed to us by this fraudulent government.

    Iggy has raised almost ten million dolalrs in 9 months. He has signed about 80,000 new members and more are joining every day.

    He has a much smarter war room and a much better strategic team.

    He has a proven war room leader and winner in Kinsella.

    Harpo has a record of doing nothing and that will be front and center.

  • hollinm

    Rave on Parnel rave on!

  • terry1

    While you all get your jollies over the nanos poll showing the reformatorts with a 4% lead………bear in mind there were 24.6% undecideds, 28% in Ontario alone,23% in Quebec with accuracy of around +-7/8% in each province. It is also a summer poll where the party in power always does better and Harpo was maoikng several announcements a day last week. The Libs were just having their caucus meeting then as well so that Iggy's announcement is probably not factored in.

    I also do not think the dippers dropped 10% and gave those votes to the reformatorts in the maritimes. Highly unlikely.

    On the leadership question an interesting number is the fact Harpo's numbers as best PM went down 3% in a period where he was clearly very visible and Iggy's went down only 1% while he was pretty much invisible to the public and before his announcement on the 1st when the poll was just baout completed.

  • takedeadaim

    1. anyone getting their jollies over a poll BEFORE the writ is dropped hasn't paid attention over the last 30 years

    2. BUT, if anyone is getting their jollies over this poll it's to see how there can never, ever, be any bad news for the Liberals according to some supporters.

  • terry1

    I didn't say whether it was good news or bad….I said it was a SUMMER poll.

  • Truthfairy

    With polls, you just never know, but trends are key and Liberals are trending down on all counts as people are slowly returning from what passed for summer.

    Panic is descending on the Liberal camp as a result of your leader's bravado, he's taken them to the cliff and there's no turning back.

    Are you questioning your favourite, most accurate pollster? The Dippers have been dropping, Jack is sounding a tad nervous, ready to work with the government, well after he postures and huffs through his 'stache for a bit…..

  • Beer and Popcorn

    Looks like Mr Ignatieff and his team aren't too creative – no policies, a lust for power wrapped in an Obama-like campaign isn't going to fool anyone.

    Par for the course from Canada's LIEberal$.

  • terry1

    truthfairy, I'm well past the tooth fairy part of my life; glad to see you haven't grown up,though.

    did I suggest I was questioning my favorite pollster. With 25% undecideds the poll automatically becomes more inaccurate and I'm sure Nik would agree.

    I for one am not worried and neither are the party brass from what I see and hear.

  • terry1

    yada yada yada…can't you ever change the same off key tune? Policies are issued at election time but that doesn't appear to stop your whining about them. where are Harpo's policies?

  • Truthfairy

    The fact the “party brass” are not worried. well so you say, should worry the hell out of you. It's proof they're not seeing and facing reality.

  • terry1

    You being a fairy would surely understand that

  • terry1

    Don't you just love headlines that marry similar people together; liars and cheaters of the world united:

    John Ibbitson
    Harper's fate tied up with Karzai's
    With another election looming, and the situation in Afghanistan deteriorating , the Tories especially face electoral erosion over the Afghan adventure

  • Casual observer

    As one who is SO looking forward to the upcoming Conservative majority government, I just want to say a great big THANK YOU to Iggy, Jack and Gilles (went up the hill?) for their outstanding wisdom and good sense, to read the Canadian public's current desire for an election, and how the public are ready and willing to punish, and punish they will, those willing to bring one on.

  • Beer and Popcorn

    Yes – for those wondering what the path to a Conservative majority might be, I believe we have tapped it.

    Terry, your LIEberal$ are going down, and going down hard!

  • batb

    This ad is a HOOT!

    When Ignatieff mentioned reaching out to India and China, I couldn't help seeing Jean Chretien and Mo Strong standing over his left shoulder. Ignatieff, Strong, and Chretien might just as well have been doing a Kumbaya circle dance around one of those green trees.

    The LPC is morally and ethically bankrupt and seem to have no ability to discern between an effective ad and a joke.

    I'm doubled over …

  • MrEd256

    Does Terry actually have a real job or is he secretly from Narnia and now living in his adoptive families basement as a shut in afraid to see the light of day?

  • MrEd256

    LOL…maybe you need to go back and start polling some of your Liberal team mates on how they really feel… What's to say they aren't trying to send your great leader the message that if he pulls the trigger on an election they will pull the trigger on him?

    and I have to ask…Does Terry actually have a real job or is he secretly from Narnia and now living in his adoptive families basement as a shut in afraid to see the light of day?

  • batb

    MrEd256: ” Does Terry actually have a real job …?”

    I suspect that this IS his/her full-time job, and that the LPC is paying him/her to shoot back a response to every comment on Stephen's blog. (S/he's been a little slow in the past 24 hours.) Someone, somewhere seems to think that this blog needs to be hijacked by nincompoop responses which clog up the intelligent commentary.

    I guess in some ways having terry1 clog your blog is a backhanded compliment, an admission that this blog needs to be scuppered … but it's a damned shame.

  • terry1

    It appears that old bats never die and just keep whining.

    The only one who pays me is me,sorry about that.

    Why don't you talk about the scandal that is Harpo;the most unethical PM ever.

  • MrEd

    Does Terry actually have a real job or is he secretly from Narnia and now living in his adoptive families basement as a shut in afraid to see the light of day?