Ah yes – hypocrisy at it's finest. I shall be waiting for the reporters to be “investigating”

Only on CBC. Pitiful.

Hope. Change. The Reckoning.

MSM believes they are the anointed ones – Just ask them!

Isn't that why the PPG in Canada staged a revolt against the PM, preselected questioners, or getting a name on a list. Seems like O is following PMSH in more ways than one. And the lib media want it the other way around.
His press conference did not go over so well. If Pres Bush had done this they would still be writing stories about it. Hypocrisy, thy name is Obama

If everything around Obama becomes a staged facade, as some have speculated, then how long before one of those “DISSed” reporters, turn on him?
As we see in this country, the MSM, needs to get the story so that THEY ARE the story.
It is a huge ego thing and may get intriquing.

Seems like O is following PMSH in more ways than one-
SO TRUE.-SO TRUE -which irks the MSM of canada.
Who wants to tackle with three opposition parties who have no regards for their country endangering our country for the sake of terrorist groups. Who in their right mind would want to do business with them.-surely not OBAMA who in fact is getting rid of terrorists from his country-not welcoming them like those morons in the opposition parties in canada.

If Stephen Harper controls the questions at a press conference, it is 'gagging the press'. If Barack Obama does it, it is wise use of the president's limited available time. Tut, tut, can't you see the difference?</sarc off>

What I would love is for Obama to “dis” Jack, Igg and Gilles, as they attempt some hooting and hollering over Omar Khadr. It would be great.

What I would love is for Obama to “dis” Jack, Igg and Gilles, as they attempt some hooting and hollering over Omar Khadr. It would be great.

What I would love is for Obama to “dis” Jack, Igg and Gilles, as they attempt some hooting and hollering over Omar Khadr. It would be great.

No, MaryT, “hypocrisy, thy name is the media” IMO.

Mr. Obama did not ask to be venerated and idolized, akin to the second coming. That was done by the sycophants in the media who “felt a tingle” going up their leg every time they laid eyes upon Obama. Had they felt that tingle and kept it to themselves … well, that would have been their business. But to be so overtly pro Obama, forgetting any semblance of impartiality, that's where they betrayed whatever journalistic ethics they've ever laid claim to.

And that goes double for Canadian intrepid reporters, pundits, columnists, as well as all those MPs, like Jack Layton, who are going weak in the knees fantasizing about meeting O-BA-MA! They're behaving like a bunch of teeny boppers at a teen idol's concert.

Come down to earth. He puts on his pants one leg at a time just like any other man, folks.

Obama is a Harper clone!

Harper is a Bush clone.

Obama = Bush

Obama is a Harper clone!

Harper is a Bush clone.

Obama = Bush

Obama is a Harper clone!

Harper is a Bush clone.

Obama = Bush

After seeing that video, I can only hope that embarrasement and shame is a world still used in the youth dictionary, because I know they will learn the word socailism soon. Do they even know what they are cheering about?

After seeing that video, I can only hope that embarrasement and shame is a world still used in the youth dictionary, because I know they will learn the word socailism soon. Do they even know what they are cheering about?

After seeing that video, I can only hope that embarrasement and shame is a world still used in the youth dictionary, because I know they will learn the word socailism soon. Do they even know what they are cheering about?

Obama supports George W. Bush in continuing keeping american troops in Afghanistan.
Obama like George W. BUSH ,continue to protect their people and united states from terrorists.
Obama like Prime Minister Stephen has brought in an ACCOUNTABILITY ACT BILL.
Obama admires the prime minister of canada.
Obama has learned that the conservative government of canada have a better relationship with the american presidents than with the liberal party of canada.
Obama is trying to be HARPER LIKE.

Obama’s MSM UNLIKE THE PRIME MINISTER WHO does not have a MSM to his name will protect OBAMA but will foreign reporters do the same-not likely.
Obama like the prime minister of canada love their country and do not support terrorist groups nor will OBama make the mistake of wrapping himself in a HEZBOLLAH FLAG.
THE LIBERALS NDP AND BLOC cry out for terrorists to come into canada whereas OBAMA wants terrorists OUT OF UNITED STATES.
The one MSM Obama cannot fool around with is Fox MSM,

Obama supports George W. Bush in continuing keeping american troops in Afghanistan.
Obama like George W. BUSH ,continue to protect their people and united states from terrorists.
Obama like Prime Minister Stephen has brought in an ACCOUNTABILITY ACT BILL.
Obama admires the prime minister of canada.
Obama has learned that the conservative government of canada have a better relationship with the american presidents than with the liberal party of canada.
Obama is trying to be HARPER LIKE.

Obama’s MSM UNLIKE THE PRIME MINISTER WHO does not have a MSM to his name will protect OBAMA but will foreign reporters do the same-not likely.
Obama like the prime minister of canada love their country and do not support terrorist groups nor will OBama make the mistake of wrapping himself in a HEZBOLLAH FLAG.
THE LIBERALS NDP AND BLOC cry out for terrorists to come into canada whereas OBAMA wants terrorists OUT OF UNITED STATES.
The one MSM Obama cannot fool around with is Fox MSM,

Obama supports George W. Bush in continuing keeping american troops in Afghanistan.
Obama like George W. BUSH ,continue to protect their people and united states from terrorists.
Obama like Prime Minister Stephen has brought in an ACCOUNTABILITY ACT BILL.
Obama admires the prime minister of canada.
Obama has learned that the conservative government of canada have a better relationship with the american presidents than with the liberal party of canada.
Obama is trying to be HARPER LIKE.

Obama’s MSM UNLIKE THE PRIME MINISTER WHO does not have a MSM to his name will protect OBAMA but will foreign reporters do the same-not likely.
Obama like the prime minister of canada love their country and do not support terrorist groups nor will OBama make the mistake of wrapping himself in a HEZBOLLAH FLAG.
THE LIBERALS NDP AND BLOC cry out for terrorists to come into canada whereas OBAMA wants terrorists OUT OF UNITED STATES.
The one MSM Obama cannot fool around with is Fox MSM,

So when the Prime Minister and the President hold their normal joint presser after their meeting, are the PPG going to submit to being “pre-screened” ?

Paul Hunter is a Liberal shill no doubt, but in this instance what was he supposed to do? Keep a straight, objective look and say to the crowd, “I’m a reporter, I can’t be seen to take sides, so step back from me!”? That said, I wonder how many of those people celebrating actually know of Obama’s policies… very little I reckon.

Paul Hunter is a Liberal shill no doubt, but in this instance what was he supposed to do? Keep a straight, objective look and say to the crowd, “I’m a reporter, I can’t be seen to take sides, so step back from me!”? That said, I wonder how many of those people celebrating actually know of Obama’s policies… very little I reckon.

Paul Hunter is a Liberal shill no doubt, but in this instance what was he supposed to do? Keep a straight, objective look and say to the crowd, “I’m a reporter, I can’t be seen to take sides, so step back from me!”? That said, I wonder how many of those people celebrating actually know of Obama’s policies… very little I reckon.

They'll probably clamour to be on the list, so that they'll get to ask a really important question of Obama, like “Have you finalized your decision on what kind of dog to adopt?” and “Who will walk the dog, and who will wield the pooper-scooper?” Now, that's investigative journalism!

And if the presser is held in the Press Gallery conference room, where journos get to sit, will they stand when the two leaders enter?
mpletely, keeping to his list. I also noticed the predominance of women reporters on his list.

Stephen, You would do anything to take your mind off Harper’s numbers going south and soon to reach the south pole!!! You and Bourque…an obvious duo!!!

Nice try.

Stephen, You would do anything to take your mind off Harper’s numbers going south and soon to reach the south pole!!! You and Bourque…an obvious duo!!!

Nice try.

Stephen, You would do anything to take your mind off Harper’s numbers going south and soon to reach the south pole!!! You and Bourque…an obvious duo!!!

Nice try.

Typical tirade when things don't go the way harper and gang designed them. You and bourque must be buddies.

Oops! Part of a sentence I intended to delete strayed into my comment … so here’s the entire sentence, for your “delectation” (as commenter Vitruvius says over st SDA).

Some reporters not on the list shouted out their questions at times, but Pres. Obama ignored them completely, keeping to his list. I also noticed the predominance of women reporters on his list.

Oops! Part of a sentence I intended to delete strayed into my comment … so here’s the entire sentence, for your “delectation” (as commenter Vitruvius says over st SDA).

Some reporters not on the list shouted out their questions at times, but Pres. Obama ignored them completely, keeping to his list. I also noticed the predominance of women reporters on his list.

Oops! Part of a sentence I intended to delete strayed into my comment … so here’s the entire sentence, for your “delectation” (as commenter Vitruvius says over st SDA).

Some reporters not on the list shouted out their questions at times, but Pres. Obama ignored them completely, keeping to his list. I also noticed the predominance of women reporters on his list.

Those that made him the messiah during the campaign and sold him to the MTV Realworld crowd will always fall in line. I'd bet you all that Mr President could pull a Great Carsoni, hold picking the “reporter” until after he's given his answer and be right about the question every single time. From where I sit this next “Great American Thinker” is just one part Johnny Carson and one part Vince from the Sham-WOW commercials. He'll get them to buy a “Pet Rock” and get them to swing at another on the pitch “Real Americans wouldn't want the first one to get lonely!”

Typical response from a leftie who if it were not for double standards would not have any.

vanIslander…. not everyone who thinks Harper needs to go is a leftie. There are progressives who have tired of his poor economic performance and his extremely poor performance in November. But as a typical angry righty you wouldn't have noticed.

“Typical tirade when things don't go the way harper and gang designed them.”
What did “harper and gang” design?

Are you implying that PM Harper “designed” Pres. Obama's press conference, which is the topic of this thread?

Or are you saying that PM Harper “designed” that silly performance by Paul Hunter, the secondary topic of this thread?

Yes!!! Harper the omnipotent! That must be it. His control extends to who gets on Pres. Obama's list.

Gabby in QC——-I don't know hw you could think I said or implied Harper could have designed Obamas speech.

I, in reality, said the tories are whiners when things don't unfold the way they view the world

Well, Terry1, all you needed to do was say “the tories are whiners when things don't unfold the way they view the world.”

You see, your original statement “Typical tirade when things don't go the way harper and gang designed them” left much to the imagination.

But then, I should have seen that as Lib-speak: say one thing, mean another, and if someone asks, give a third usually ambiguous interpretation.

Gabby, You mean its a “Harperism”. Say one thing and do another or simply lie about anything at any time its convenient.

Libs are not like nor are true progressives.

“Say one thing and do another …”
You mean like … vote for the budget but criticize it and hold it up in committee?

“Libs are not like nor are true progressives.”
Aha! the truth is out.

Gabby,

My rush to ge that out omitted some words and it should have read…” libs are not like harperites and are true progressives”.

The naoos poll out today gives me great hope that Iggy is on his way to being the next PM after Harper fails his report card. Imagine the government being held hostage to a report card. How desperate they are.

No more whiners than anyone I ever met in a union, anyone I ever met in a “save the…” organization or for that matter anyone I ever met who thought they “deserved” something. If you are going to call one then you certainly have to call them all and if you start now that list of whiners might be done before your great grand children retire… maybe. Anyone who has been to Europe and headed off the beaten path to the rest of Paris or Munich has seen first hand how much of a drop in the Canadian standard of living greater Socialism would cost. You want to pay for it, go right ahead but don't be whining about the results when things don't go your way. As for me, I'm keeping my hard earned money and no I don't believe anyone “deserves” my earnings nor I theirs.

All we can ever hope for in a government is less corruption than the previous one. If we adopted the notion of “hand in the cookie jar = lose the hand” we would see “change you can believe in” right here in Canada. Until then its going to be gigo as usual. Also please no more about President Obama. He's a rank amateur fumbling away in the dark when compared to our own Pierre Elliot Trudeau.

We are close to being a socialist country now but I don't see where I've said that is what the liberal party should be. I love how you angry right wing Tories get carried away with things Liberal. If George Bush is your hero then we understand your positions better.

More tory sleaze with the Cadman scandal:
CAMPBELL CLARK

Globe and Mail Update

February 13, 2009 at 2:14 PM EST

OTTAWA — The Conservatives are repeating allegations that a B.C. journalist doctored a tape of Stephen Harper talking about the Cadman affair – but only in places where they are protected from lawsuits.

MP Pierre Poilievre, the parliamentary secretary to the Prime Minister, slipped out of the Commons by the back door this morning rather than take up the NDP's challenge that he repeat the claims outside the chamber. MPs cannot be sued for what they say in the Commons, but outside the door of the House, they have no special protection.

terry 1. Arent you forgetting something, I remember I guy who promised to do away with
the salestax and then never did. I wonder if Mr. Iggy will reintroduce it. what I don't understand is that you lefties don't see the handwriting on the Wall. Obama will be the
worst President ever. His economics are totally insane. The histeria about ” change” is gone and we have the same old same. ( Pork ) His has dumped more debt on the American Public. They will rue they day they voted for him. No because is not a nice man
well spoken and the first black President, that is all very wonderful, but he has not got what it takes. It is beginning to show.

terry1 No wonder you don't get anywhere. No new “scandals” I would have thought there are more important
things on the agenda, then dead people. Of course we could instead talk about Canada's Sergeant Schulz : I know nothing, I see nothing I hear nothing ” Chretien. and the 40 million stolen from the taxpayers by the Liberals.

Terry 1.
Canada is already Socialist? Who made is that way? Successive Liberal Governements in particular Trudeau and Chretien.

jckirlan.
Not yet, but soon. The next 6 generaltion of unborn Americans will have to pay for the insaneties of Bush and Obama.

omanator…the wrost president ever just left office and he was a right wing brother of Harper……..get it?

You don't think Mulroney was a wannabe socialist?.

oMANATOR,Yada yada yada

«My rush to ge that out omitted some words and it should have read…” libs are not like harperites and are true progressives”.»

Tsk, tsk … I detect a bit of revisionism going on …

Terry1. I happen to be a blue member. I know of nobody in the party who wants to out PMSH. That is another total media bunk. Make up something when you have not anything new to tell.
As far as his poor economic performance is concered, why are all the others are saying Canada is better off than any of the G7.Why are they trying to emulate our banking regulations for example. The Wirtschaftswunder of the past is today deep in debt. Harper payed down our debt. His performance is fine with me.The other European Countries whished they had.

umm yes….I am also going to rescind and revise the income trust decision…LOL

You angry old Tories are fun.

So you are now saying Harper is responsibile for the good banking rules we play by.

As far as progressives wanting him gone thye unfortunatley have no mpower jsut yet within the party which as you know is controlled tightly by the reformers who also get most of the donations the party receives.

You keep the faith but the truth is Harper is done. His November screw up will be his legacy by the time Iggy gets through with him.

You folk continue to amaze me. With a genuine, world-changing economic crisis unfolding, you still have time to stoke your petty little MSM – Obama grudges. I guess this either means that you aren’t being affected by the economic crisis, or that you deem it more important to keep feeding the the hard-right trolls that helped boost the CPoC into office, than to actually address real issues.

First -what’s your source? A bitter little op-ed in the Wall St Journal, itself a lapdog of the GOP, and currently in the doghouse of public opinion for failing to investigate and warn on the financial meltdown that started in its own backyard.

This was not a regular White House press briefing, it was a special, prime-time address to the public. I’ve seen this “stage-managing” confirmed in other news reports, but I have yet to find another writer that also concludes that Obama is muzzling the press. I’m certain that every other president in modern history has done likewise… if they included a press conference at all.

Also remember, they did include a reporter from Faux News, so at least one question should have been fair and balanced, right?

In both Canada and the US, the right has been sullenly mute when it comes to proposing real, workable steps for reversing the downturn. It’s understandable; a whole herd of right-wing sacred cows have been slayed along with our retirement savings. Still, when the going gets tough, the tough should get going, instead of sulking, with only the occasional petulant grunt of “tax cuts!’ coming from their corner.

[stephen - an editing choice for you]
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To his credit, Harper has apparently risen above naked partisanship to deal head-on with the crisis. Maybe the conservative base could stop licking their ideological nuts long enough to support and guide their Prime Minister?

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To his credit, Harper has apparently risen above naked partisanship to deal head-on with the crisis. Maybe the conservative base could stop their self-indulgent grumbling long enough to support and guide their Prime Minister?

[version #1 - I couldn't not write that, it sustained the dog metaphor so nicely, and it works on several levels. reluctantly, I concede that it might be too inflammatory for this crowd]

You folk continue to amaze me. With a genuine, world-changing economic crisis unfolding, you still have time to stoke your petty little MSM – Obama grudges. I guess this either means that you aren’t being affected by the economic crisis, or that you deem it more important to keep feeding the the hard-right trolls that helped boost the CPoC into office, than to actually address real issues.

First -what’s your source? A bitter little op-ed in the Wall St Journal, itself a lapdog of the GOP, and currently in the doghouse of public opinion for failing to investigate and warn on the financial meltdown that started in its own backyard.

This was not a regular White House press briefing, it was a special, prime-time address to the public. I’ve seen this “stage-managing” confirmed in other news reports, but I have yet to find another writer that also concludes that Obama is muzzling the press. I’m certain that every other president in modern history has done likewise… if they included a press conference at all.

Also remember, they did include a reporter from Faux News, so at least one question should have been fair and balanced, right?

In both Canada and the US, the right has been sullenly mute when it comes to proposing real, workable steps for reversing the downturn. It’s understandable; a whole herd of right-wing sacred cows have been slayed along with our retirement savings. Still, when the going gets tough, the tough should get going, instead of sulking, with only the occasional petulant grunt of “tax cuts!’ coming from their corner.

[stephen - an editing choice for you]
version #1
To his credit, Harper has apparently risen above naked partisanship to deal head-on with the crisis. Maybe the conservative base could stop licking their ideological nuts long enough to support and guide their Prime Minister?

version #2
To his credit, Harper has apparently risen above naked partisanship to deal head-on with the crisis. Maybe the conservative base could stop their self-indulgent grumbling long enough to support and guide their Prime Minister?

[version #1 - I couldn't not write that, it sustained the dog metaphor so nicely, and it works on several levels. reluctantly, I concede that it might be too inflammatory for this crowd]

You folk continue to amaze me. With a genuine, world-changing economic crisis unfolding, you still have time to stoke your petty little MSM – Obama grudges. I guess this either means that you aren’t being affected by the economic crisis, or that you deem it more important to keep feeding the the hard-right trolls that helped boost the CPoC into office, than to actually address real issues.

First -what’s your source? A bitter little op-ed in the Wall St Journal, itself a lapdog of the GOP, and currently in the doghouse of public opinion for failing to investigate and warn on the financial meltdown that started in its own backyard.

This was not a regular White House press briefing, it was a special, prime-time address to the public. I’ve seen this “stage-managing” confirmed in other news reports, but I have yet to find another writer that also concludes that Obama is muzzling the press. I’m certain that every other president in modern history has done likewise… if they included a press conference at all.

Also remember, they did include a reporter from Faux News, so at least one question should have been fair and balanced, right?

In both Canada and the US, the right has been sullenly mute when it comes to proposing real, workable steps for reversing the downturn. It’s understandable; a whole herd of right-wing sacred cows have been slayed along with our retirement savings. Still, when the going gets tough, the tough should get going, instead of sulking, with only the occasional petulant grunt of “tax cuts!’ coming from their corner.

[stephen - an editing choice for you]
version #1
To his credit, Harper has apparently risen above naked partisanship to deal head-on with the crisis. Maybe the conservative base could stop licking their ideological nuts long enough to support and guide their Prime Minister?

version #2
To his credit, Harper has apparently risen above naked partisanship to deal head-on with the crisis. Maybe the conservative base could stop their self-indulgent grumbling long enough to support and guide their Prime Minister?

[version #1 - I couldn't not write that, it sustained the dog metaphor so nicely, and it works on several levels. reluctantly, I concede that it might be too inflammatory for this crowd]

Terry1 I think you are dreaming in technicalor. A lot of wishfull thinking. Obvieously Iggy has recognized how elianated the West is. Now he wants to change that, goog luck. All the animosity given to the West for the last 20 years is not going away in a few month. There lies Iggies problem. Withoust substantial seats in the West, the best he can hope for is a minority.

I agree that he was till now the worst. How are you going to connect Harper now with Obama. Until now he was a Bush Stooge. Bush is gone and Obama is anything but conservative. He is much more like your liberalist socialist crowd. He will get along with Iggy just great, after all Iggy and he went to the same Ivory Tower school. Iggy as Priminister would mean an American would run the country. How obscene is that.

You too.

No american has ever run our Country and none will. You are dreaming if you think Iggy will lie down in front of Obama. I think the opposite might happen as Obama is a big fan of Iggy's writings and his intellect.

Which does not bode well for Obama's intellegence.Iggy will do anything that serves his own purpose. Iggy's intellect does not show in the House of Commons. In fact he comes through rather badly.

Alberta Girl, I hear Prof. Iggy is making a trip to your part of the world to convince you ,should all love the Liberals and him. How do you feel about it.?

Its too bad your blue filters can't see the real facts.

Iggy has Harper clearly in his sights and won't let go.

Terry1. Ha, Ha, Ha. I remember another guy who wanted to be Prime Minister, He said I apply for the job.

Remember will have to re apply pretty soon and he will be rejected for the job since he is so incompetent.

I am not sure who you are talking about. If by an chance you are talking about PMSH he has done the best job sofar. At least he has been more interested in ordinary people than the Libs ever did. I am greatful as a Senior Citizen that he saw fit to increase our pension, which had not happened for more than 17 years. He more competent than Iggy ever will be.

Oh you call the itmes below an interest in ordinary people:

1, He screwed thousands of ordinary people when his dissed us ont he income trust legislation.
2. He dissed us all when he lowered the GST for strictly partisan reasons to protect his narrow right wing reform base. He did not have the country in mind when he did that becasue he knew a recession was around the corner.
3. He dissed us again when he used his partisan approach and absolute distaste for minority government and spent $300MM while breaking his own own election law just to screw the opposition.
4. He further dissed the Country and our democracy when he used an economic update in Novemeber to literally financially break the main opposition parties. He had no intentions of doing anything to stimulate the economy.

I don't wan to take up any more space but I could on in detail with Cadman, in an out scandal and other issues that really diss us as citizens.,

You can have him but I think he belongs with the unemployed.

This is my last reply to your nonsense. It is obvously that you have the red glasses on . For your information I was a card carrying Liberal for more than 20 years, sat on the board of Dir. of the Riding Ass. for 6 years. I knew Trudeau personally and met Chretien, He probably does not remember me.
Two years after he got to power I dumped the Lib. Party like a hot potatoe. By then I had most of the inside chenanigans.
As far as the Income trust goes,if Martin had been PM he would have done the same thing if some the oil companies had deposeted their money into a taxfree account.
Your 2 and 3 are nothing but leftist spin. The Libs are very good at this. chretien was a master in calling an election when it was to his advantage. I know of two such elections by liberal governments.
As far are the taxpayer footing the bill for parties that is insane
and I am totally against it, no matter who is the Government.
Chretien was the best PM for screwing the people. As far as Cadman is concerened I rather belief Mr. Cadman himself, who absolutely denied that offer had been made. I will not again answer you, you obviously don't have enough knowledge.
You comparison of Chaves with Steven Harper only shows you come right out of the Leftist Gutter.

Its obvious you can't stand the fact Harper is a jerk and you changed parties to put up with his crooked nonsense…good luck in the future;

This is my last reply to your nonsense. It is obvously that you have the red glasses on . For your information I was a card carrying Liberal for more than 20 years, sat on the board of Dir. of the Riding Ass. for 6 years. I knew Trudeau personally and met Chretien, He probably does not remember me.
Two years after he got to power I dumped the Lib. Party like a hot potatoe. By then I had most of the inside chenanigans.
As far as the Income trust goes,if Martin had been PM he would have done the same thing if some the oil companies had deposeted their money into a taxfree account.
Your 2 and 3 are nothing but leftist spin. The Libs are very good at this. chretien was a master in calling an election when it was to his advantage. I know of two such elections by liberal governments.
As far are the taxpayer footing the bill for parties that is insane
and I am totally against it, no matter who is the Government.
Chretien was the best PM for screwing the people. As far as Cadman is concerened I rather belief Mr. Cadman himself, who absolutely denied that offer had been made. I will not again answer you, you obviously don't have enough knowledge.
You comparison of Chaves with Steven Harper only shows you come right out of the Leftist Gutter.

Its obvious you can't stand the fact Harper is a jerk and you changed parties to put up with his crooked nonsense…good luck in the future;