Libby Davies alienates Chinese Community and others over Insite

I just received this email report from Dimitri Soudas, the Prime Minister’s spokesman, today in Vancouver,

Here is Libby Davies’ tweet about the situation:

With “welcoming committe” as Harper arrives in DES. He should be in parl. Insite saves lives – crazy to appeal court decisions #fb

Insite is the program in Vancouver that is a “safe” place (as the website claims) where junkies can inject drugs. It has been an ideological flashpoint between those on the left and conservatives quite some time now.

Here are some photos from the protest in which Libby Davies and her friends are confining people, according to my source:

Davies tweeted again,

It was a peaceful protest in support of Insite (I didn’t organize). Didn’t see chains on doors. Police moved in and out freely @kady#fb

The Prime Minister’s office is claiming that the protesters put the chains on the doors that you can see above in the second and third photos.

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  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    Kenn2,
    Making up excuses for the thugs who participated in using duct tape, chains, bullhorns in trampling the rights of seniors, children, vets and guests invited to attend a rehearsal in honour of or PM? How liberal of you!
    The Ontario Government settled out of court a secret deal for the police failing in their duty. The investigation of the RCMP in the taser incident demostrates the Police are capable of making mistakes.

    So in defense of thugs and mob rule you cite the lack of charges as justification for their illegal acts. What was the ratio of drugged up protestor vs police officer? How many bullhorns were brought in to make noise and disrupt this rehearsal?

    Canada is in violation of the UN Treaty signed in 1961 regarding narcotics. Sorry Kenn2 your thugs don't decide. Supreme Court will be asked.

  • kenn2

    Insite represents our willingness (alone in North America, apparently) to seek out and test alternatives to the North American status quo on drug use, which is to simply punish use and incarcerate users. This works… if you're a prison guard – it's layoff preventi0n. Otherwise, it's not efficient and does little to reduce the harm to users and others.

    If gov't supervised drug injection sites didn't work, I wouldn't be in favour. But some European countries have found this to be an effective approach, and Insite has apparently also been shown to reduce harm and benefit society overall.

    http://supervisedinjection.vch.ca/research/

    I'm enough of a fiscal conservative to choose cost (and harm) reduction over maintaining an ineffective legal vendetta against drug users.

    So, yes Insite is part of the Canada I want the world to see.

  • kenn2

    So in defense of thugs and mob rule you cite the lack of charges as justification for their illegal acts.

    No…. I haven't justified anything. I merely pointed out that the police were there. The taping/chaining of doors was apparently treated as symbolic acts that the police quickly removed, and that there was never a genuine danger to the building occupants.

    I won't bother to refute your claim re UN Treaty signed in 1961, I will merely point out that something written in 1961 is probably not the last word in up-to-date policy options re prevention of drug abuse.

  • kenn2

    Where illegal drug users are encouraged to shoot up

    There's ONE injection site pilot project in North America, and now the sky is falling? Criminalizing drug use hasn't really worked. We need to try some other approaches. If you have a good idea, speak up for Heaven's sake, otherwise you and the Federal government have no business lowering the boom on a project that is showing some benefits.

    gay activists' pornographic activities are on public view

    A few cities have ONE Pride parade a year, (bringing tourism $$$ to town) where some skinny oiled guys in speedos dance and hug, and the sky is falling AGAIN?

    Just go the cottage that weekend, and stop trying to tell others how to live. Geez…

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    Keener,

    Here is your own words in defense of mob rule and thugs… you own them.

    “The taping/chaining of doors was apparently treated as symbolic acts that the police quickly removed, and that there was never a genuine danger to the building occupants.”

    Nice deflection for absolving the Police for their use of discretion and the thuggish behaviour. What was the count of thugs vs Police at the cultural centre? Did you forget that factor? Did you expect the Police to get a call from a PM aid to repeat APEC “crowd control” measures?

    Sadly, those affected were witness to the disruption and the photos eliminate ANY doubt about the “symbolic gesture” as defended by you.

    A TD executive and former Liberal had thought about thuggish behaiouver, I wonder if he has any opinions on these acts.

    Picking and Choosing what treaties we are obligated to follow?

    Either you are ignorant of the facts or being disingenious. You condone the illegal activity and violation of UN treaties

    The UN's drug control agency is to warn Tony Clement, the Health Minister, that Canada is flouting international drug control treaties by enabling illicit drug use at a safe injection site in Vancouver and through drug-paraphernalia giveaways elsewhere.
    http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.h

  • kenn2

    Here is your own words in defense of mob rule and thugs… you own them.

    “The taping/chaining of doors was apparently treated as symbolic acts that the police quickly removed, and that there was never a genuine danger to the building occupants.”

    Yep. They're mine. All I'm saying there is that there was no real danger to the people in the building – the police were there the whole time, and they removed all the tape, chains etc, quickly. Had there been a genuine emergency that required evacuating the building, do you think the protesters themselves would not have removed the tape and stuff?

    Nothing in there is “in defense of mob rule and thugs”. For the record, I haven't said anything in support of that protest, I've only indicated my support of Insite itself. Most protests usually make me uncomfortable, whether it was like this one, or pro-lifers picketing an abortion clinic. I prefer other venues to try to make my voice heard.

    Picking and Choosing what treaties we are obligated to follow?

    Either you are ignorant of the facts or being disingenious. You condone the illegal activity and violation of UN treaties

    Hmmm. From your link…

    “Other countries facing board criticism for operating safe injection sites are Australia, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Switzerland.”

    That's pretty good company to be in.

    Also, to clarify, this … “U.N.” – is this the same U.N. that upholds those pesky “human rights”, or sanctions Israel for war crimes, or the U.S. for Guantanamo Bay and for renditions and torture? I never would have suspected that from you. Or are you the one picking and choosing?

  • http://www.mediabadger.com/blog Webconomist

    And Davies said no chains on doors? hmmmm

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    Kenn2,

    You allege the Police quickly removed the tape and chains without proof 2x.

    You defend the inaction, and introducing morality into a group of thugs to do the right thing if an emergency takes place, very funny 2x.

    You suggest my ignorance in the area of opiates because of my mimicking your use of hyperbole.

    “the police were there the whole time, and they removed all the tape, chains etc, quickly. Had there been a genuine emergency that required evacuating the building, do you think the protesters themselves would not have removed the tape and stuff? “

    The article listed a few countries that are in violation of a UN treaty they signed. You ignored the two that are using alternative methods in compliance of the UN treaty obligations.

    You than bait me with my use of the UN hypocrisy from you and the Left. Nice try.

    The angry left are protesting about the global reputation via Kyoto Protocol and than ignoring the Narcotics treaty signed.

    So Kenny how many countries signed have met the Kyoto Protocol?
    Why did Clinton and Gore not push Kyoto? Why has OBAMA refused to restart Kyoto?

    Trying to pin this on a “right wing” idealogy is simplistic and false.

    Why do the left demand us taxpayers to fund their use of illegal drugs?

  • batb

    I don't have a cottage — and a lot of the gays in the Pride Parade don't have Speedos.

  • batb

    Hug-a-thug, so typically liberal.

    Or, drop a druggie: It won't take long for the stuff s/he gets at Insite kills her/him.

    So kind.

    So sick.

  • kenn2

    (this is kenn2 – outta town)

    You allege the Police quickly removed the tape and chains without proof 2x.

    You defend the inaction, and introducing morality into a group of thugs to do the right thing if an emergency takes place, very funny 2x.

    Actually, the CBC article linked earlier does state that the chains, tape etc were removed quickly. And I do have faith that our police (and most people) would do the right thing. Of course I wouldn't have expected you to apply any effort or thought to independently figure this out yourself.

    Forgive me if I ignore the rest of your blather.

  • kenn2

    There are some nice lodges that are quite reasonable (we don't have a cottage either)

    I'm calling BS on nudity in the pride parade.

  • kenn2

    Or, drop a druggie: It won't take long for the stuff s/he gets at Insite kills her/him.

    The #1 reason for providing safe injection sites is to REDUCE the potential of harm to the addict and others. Also, if you bothered to do any research, you'd know that Insite doesn't supply the drugs.

  • batb

    You're telling me that Libby Davies wasn't protesting, ultimately, against Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his party? You're telling me it was just a coincidence that our Prime Minister happened to be at the opening of this Chinese Cultural Centre?

    What does the Chinese Cultural Centre have to do with Insite? Why choose this particular venue and not another to protest the withdrawal of funds for drug addicts to shoot up their poison?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    Libby Davies and her delusional comrades ('wonder what they're on?) say, “Insite saves lives.” Well, honey, it doesn't. Drug addicts that continue to feed their toxic habit will die, sooner rather than later. Cocaine and heroin use are not conducive to a healthy lifestyle. 'Funny that moonbat leftards seem to think they do.

    If one of my kids was a drug addict, I'd be mad as Hell if a government-funded organization like Insite handed out “clean” needles so they could continue to shoot up. “Clean” is a rather obscene way to describe an instrument of sure death — and a miserable one at that.

    Sam???

  • batb

    'Funny that moonbat leftards seem to think they do

    should read

    'Funny that moonbat leftards seem to think they are.

  • Gary

    I was there, cops had to cut multiple chains with bolt cutters just to let James Moore in when he arrived. This contention that the chains were merely a visual and not locked is BS. Maybe Davies didn't see the chains but I don't know how they could be missed.

    Email me if you want more details Stephen.

  • Gary

    Actually kenn2 there are plenty of intelligent compassionate people who see this differently than you. Insite is seen by some as contributing to the drug addiction of the clients who use it and in turn keeping them addicted. Without a strategy of getting its clients into detox as well how can it be anything more than enabling? Needle exchanges and safe drops for used needles are happening quite seperate from the SIS which begs the question, what is SIS doing that those services aren't? And how can making it easier to stay addicted to heroin be more compassionate? I get that the hearts of the SIS people are in the right place but so are the hearts of some of the anti-SIS people.

    Don't lump all 'small c' conservatives into one category because some are ignorant, that would be the same as them lumping you in with extremists on the left side.

  • kenn2

    I would gladly listen to a reasoned argument. You seem reasonable, but your points and some misconceptions seem to indicate that you have not yet checked for yourself why programs like Insite can be better than needle exchange.

    I question Harper's motives for attempting to squash a small fly like Insite. He wouldn't give a rats ass about some 1961 UN treaty, so what's the point? I think it's a cheap pander to the prejudices of the right's base.

  • Gary

    I was there, cops had to cut multiple chains with bolt cutters just to let James Moore in when he arrived. This contention that the chains were merely a visual and not locked is BS. Maybe Davies didn't see the chains but I don't know how they could be missed.

    Email me if you want more details Stephen.

  • Gary

    Actually kenn2 there are plenty of intelligent compassionate people who see this differently than you. Insite is seen by some as contributing to the drug addiction of the clients who use it and in turn keeping them addicted. Without a strategy of getting its clients into detox as well how can it be anything more than enabling? Needle exchanges and safe drops for used needles are happening quite seperate from the SIS which begs the question, what is SIS doing that those services aren't? And how can making it easier to stay addicted to heroin be more compassionate? I get that the hearts of the SIS people are in the right place but so are the hearts of some of the anti-SIS people.

    Don't lump all 'small c' conservatives into one category because some are ignorant, that would be the same as them lumping you in with extremists on the left side.

  • kenn2

    I would gladly listen to a reasoned argument. You seem reasonable, but your points and some misconceptions seem to indicate that you have not yet checked for yourself why programs like Insite can be better than needle exchange.

    I question Harper's motives for attempting to squash a small fly like Insite. He wouldn't give a rats ass about some 1961 UN treaty, so what's the point? I think it's a cheap pander to the prejudices of the right's base.

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