Opposition MPs that Voted to Scrap the Gun Registry

Liberal Party of Canada – (8)
Scott Andrews (Avalon)
Larry Bagnell (Yukon)
Jean-Claude D’Amours (Madawaska—Restigouche)
Wayne Easter (Malpeque)
Keith Martin (Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca)
Anthony Rota (Nipissing—Timiskaming)
Todd Russell (Labrador)
Scott Simms (Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor)

New Democratic Party – (12)
Malcolm Allen (Welland)
Charlie Angus (Timmins—James Bay)
Niki Ashton (Churchill)
Dennis Bevington (Western Arctic)
Nathan Cullen (Skeena—Bulkley Valley)
Claude Gravelle (Nickel Belt)
Carol Hughes (Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing)
Bruce Hyer (Thunder Bay—Superior North)
Jim Maloway (Elmwood—Transcona)
John Rafferty (Thunder Bay—Rainy River)
Peter Stoffer (Sackville—Eastern Shore)
Glenn Thibeault (Sudbury)

Bloc Québécois – (0)

Independent – (1)
André Arthur (Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier)

and from the governing Conservatives…

Conservative Party of Canada – (143)

Read my post on how the vote went last night

Comments

comments

  • David

    I am quite stunned at the number of NDP that voted with the Tories. To use their own rhetoric against them, are these MP's to be compared to those redneck Republicans south of the border?

    This is a disaster for Iggy. I am not sure if they wanted to whip caucus on this vote but it is clear that he couldn't have anyways. The 8 MP's would have ignored him which probably would have been even worse optically.

    Iggy has made it clear that he still intends to try and persuade changes to keep the registry in place. This can only backfire. It took a decade of neglect, incompetence and outright contempt to finally get Ottawa to recognize the failure.

    An attempt to use the senate to save the registry might spark a constitutional crisis.I don't think it will but it could be the last straw. It would be an in your face double cross to the people by the “upper chamber” that will force people to finally change from anger to action.

    This is not Iggy's first mistake but it is larger than most.Politically speaking, Conservatives will quietly hope that Iggy pushes this idea. It is good for their wallets.

  • wilson

    redneck Republicans …LOL

    That's 1/3 of NDP caucus!
    We've got Danny's 6, now Harper's 8.

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    The CPC and the base should be thankful for a great campaign in getting those opposition MP's to break ranks. This lesson in mobilizing the base and voters in the riding should be used more often.

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    The fact that the Liberals don't see a problem with using the Senate to obstruct the HOC is nothing new. The CPC should bide their time and wait until they have a majority to neuter the opposition. How many more months before Liberals lose control of the senate, 6-12 months?

  • RobertMcClelland

    A lot of Conservative MPs in urban ridings voted to kill the gun registry. Just saying.

  • ripples

    Just a reminder of Harper's hypocrisy. He voted for the gun registry in 1995.

    http://thestar.blogs.com/politics/2009/11/harpe

    “Reform MP Stephen Harper (Calgary West), touted by some as a future Reform party leader, bucked his caucus and voted with the government, as did the Bloc Quebecois.”

  • ripples

    Here's more Tory hypocrisy:

    http://thestar.blogs.com/politics/2009/11/guns-

    Guns don't kill registries, only MPs do

    Less than 24 hours after the Commons voted in principle to scrap the long-gun registry, here's the newly released performance report on the Canadian Firearms Centre. It's spending less, attracting more registrants and police are using the registry more — almost 4,000 times last year. Yep, that's an argument to kill it. Full report available if you click here

  • Liz J

    The gun registry itself as it was originally set up projecting a reasonable cost was not the problem, the problem was the Liberals made a giant mess of it, it developed into another boondoggle by the champs of boondoggles.

  • MaryT

    Two openings now, and another one Jan 1, 2010. I think that will do it or come very close,
    and the libs have lost all their power.

  • ripples

    The cost is now sunk and the maintainence of the system is very low. So, why does harper now not support it. Catering to his red neck base instead of his convictions is typical of this hypocrite. Your blinders don't allow you to see that fact of life.

  • batb

    How many drug deals have been done and people murdered by individuals who have registered their guns?

    'Looks like this registry was just another Liberal attempt to pretend they were doing something about gun crime, completely neglecting to register that the gang members and gangsters perpetrating gun crimes on our streets don't register their guns.

    Dumb is as dumb does.

  • ripples

    I know you are smarter than all the police chiefs in the country but you do now know that your hero Harper voted for it. His hypocrisy is now in full view once more. And, since you believe that any and everything Iggy said 15 years ago is cast in stone then I presume you feel the same about your so called leader's vote for the registry which went against his own party at the time.

  • ripples

    Slightly off topic but relevant:

    Maybe the pollsters are getting it wrong.

    http://davidakin.blogware.com/blog/_archives/20

    This was an attempt by a tory MP in Manitoba to bring more glory to his party and he got his butt kicked. When asked if his party the reform tories were managing the economy well he got an 88% rejection rate.

  • David

    Terry, that is way off topic not just slightly.

  • NovaDog

    It's called politics; nipples, divide and conquer. We now have a divided Liberal and NDP party. Pure strategy nipples, pure strategy.

  • ripples

    that's right. Screw the people and stay in power. that's exactly the politics the herpecrites were going to get rid of. Instead they now champion it.

    Thanks for the input.

  • Liz J

    C'mon Stephen, did you ban Terry or not?

  • Bruce

    Get help Terry/Parnel/ripples;

    http://www.cmha.ca/bins/index.asp

  • batb

    Sadly, I suspect that the police want to retain this registry because it helps them look like they're actually doing something about gun crime. I have less and less confidence in the police, and I'm a law and order person so it grieves me to say this. Living in Toronto, I seldom see a police presence, except at construction sites, road repairs, and at the local Tim Horton's picking up their coffees.

    This gun registry has not proven to be successful when it comes to gun crime in Canada. It seems to be used as a smoke screen behind which government can hide, all the while assuring the Canadian public that they're doing something about gun-related deaths. What our politicians need to do is to enforce the laws we have and to put behind bars, for lengthy sentences, those who use guns illegally and kill people.

  • Central_Canadian

    Well all the Chiefs don't support it, many have spoken out against it. The CACP chiefs do but of course they are somewhat biased because they have been getting a lot cash from CGI the registry computer company. I don't know how serious a problem that is ethically but their ethics advisor quit because they refused to stop taking the payments from corporations and then supporting the products and services of those corporations.

  • m123T

    I wonder how many unexplained “expenses” were dropped into the gun registry, that really belonged elsewhere, like remaining in the treasury.
    Now we know where the pink book authors got their stats re violence and women. They must have checked the gun stats.
    If the police check the registry before entering a home, are we to believe that there are over 4000 domestic violence calls per day.
    Too bad terry didn't decide to use some different phrases and spelling when he showed up as ripples.
    Perhaps in his next reincarnation he will do that.

  • Liz J

    It's not called the Liberal party of Toronto for nothing, take that out of the equation and the stats change dramatically, we have something called reality. Notice the media always trot out the police chief of Toronto.

    The pink book is a sham. Difficult to imagine the authors of such tripe have husbands, sons and fathers in their lives. Domestic violence is not acceptable by anyone, even men have been victims.
    I'll never trust stats coming from people with an agenda.

  • Jen

    One word from the liberals to their multitude of senators and this whole thing does not pass in the Senate.

  • Tricky_Dick

    give ripples a call if you like

    Quinn, Terry
    905-637-2472
    1008 Earl Cres
    Burlington, ON L7T 3P9

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    RM are you suggesting the Left lobby has any power in those CPC urban ridings? Can you tell me what CPC held urban ridings the LEFT are going to take back as a result.

    Thanks for the chuckles.

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    “Why did the CPC make an example of how WEAK the opposition is?”

    Is that your question?

    Note to self: Parnel is upset Liberals can't whip their own MP's on a simple private members Bill that is GOING to hurt their votes in urban ridings.

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    Parnel was confident his WK strategy had teeth. He is now upset when REAL power is demostrated.

    The white flag liberals, don't call the shots. Hedy Fry may want to jump the queue with other highly paid pros, but Canadians don't like it.
    The Liberals are offside. An election in the spring will terminate the visiting leader and Bob will begin his reign as the next janitor of the Party in Toronto.

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    The lack of posting liberals should not be shock. It is reflected in Libblogs. Twenty active bloggers posting 2-4x trying to appear to be a “force”.

    The spent force is in a serious decline.

  • m123T

    I wonder how many unexplained “expenses” were dropped into the gun registry, that really belonged elsewhere, like remaining in the treasury.
    Now we know where the pink book authors got their stats re violence and women. They must have checked the gun stats.
    If the police check the registry before entering a home, are we to believe that there are over 4000 domestic violence calls per day.
    Too bad terry didn't decide to use some different phrases and spelling when he showed up as ripples.
    Perhaps in his next reincarnation he will do that.

  • Liz J

    It's not called the Liberal party of Toronto for nothing, take that out of the equation and the stats change dramatically, we have something called reality. Notice the media always trot out the police chief of Toronto.

    The pink book is a sham. Difficult to imagine the authors of such tripe have husbands, sons and fathers in their lives. Domestic violence is not acceptable by anyone, even men have been victims.
    I'll never trust stats coming from people with an agenda.

  • Jen

    One word from the liberals to their multitude of senators and this whole thing does not pass in the Senate.

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    RM are you suggesting the Left lobby has any power in those CPC urban ridings? Can you tell me what CPC held urban ridings the LEFT are going to take back as a result.

    Thanks for the chuckles.

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    “Why did the CPC make an example of how WEAK the opposition is?”

    Is that your question?

    Note to self: Parnel is upset Liberals can't whip their own MP's on a simple private members Bill that is GOING to hurt their votes in urban ridings.

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    Parnel was confident his WK strategy had teeth. He is now upset when REAL power is demostrated.

    The white flag liberals, don't call the shots. Hedy Fry may want to jump the queue with other highly paid pros, but Canadians don't like it.
    The Liberals are offside. An election in the spring will terminate the visiting leader and Bob will begin his reign as the next janitor of the Party in Toronto.

  • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ Canadiansense

    The lack of posting liberals should not be shock. It is reflected in Libblogs. Twenty active bloggers posting 2-4x trying to appear to be a “force”.

    The spent force is in a serious decline.