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stephen, Its obvious this Ad is going to hit home. The comments I've read in several newspapers are pretty god evidence, on quantity, that Harpo is done. People like this ad. Its not hateful and its not a personal attack. Imgine politicians that say “we can do better” as opposed to calling people nasty names.

This ad might make me go positive in my posts although I'm sure it would not last long thnks to your patrons.

I hear Harpo is going to wear this get up for his next ad:

http://bastardlogic.files.wordpress.com/2007/08…

If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it…

We already are doing better. We don't have a Liberal government. Let's keep it that way.

“……….and there is only one thing we can do about this and that is live the way we are supposed to live. As our constitution commands us. Being an American is not easy, it is hard. We are required as a country to keep some very serious promises. We are judged by a high standard the one that was crafted for ourselves in the founding document of this republic.” – Michael Ignatieff

These ads are an utter flop in the face of this Iggy gem. Is THIS what he meant by “we” Canadians doing better?

“We” can do better by making sure a person who has identified himself repeatedly as an American never becomes Prime Minister.

And we Canadians will, sockpuppet. Count on it.

Does Michael Ignatieff have eyes?

Iggy not being himself…

All that's missing from this are the fairies and dancing pink bunnies!
Nice Tory Blue shirt though. What's THAT about anyway?
The message for me is insulting to me, a Canadian who already thinks her country is the best in the world and it got there without Iggy's help.

I give this attempt a D+ and reserve the right to put the Iggy war room and spin machine “on probation”

terry 1 is the typical lieberal spinster, and lover of all WK spew – hate, hate, hate, harpo, harpo, harpo – policy ? huh ? where ?
what fools they take us for

Sure Terry1 – is that you hiding in the woods behind Iggy? Going to hit home? Evidence in “several” newspapers.

Classic case of Iggy Ignoramusitis – we sure CAN do better dude. Bring down the gov't and force us into an election we don't need or want and we'll show you JUST how much better the PM and his team can do.

You can't fool us Terry1 – you may be a legend in your own basement but, we know that the Libs. have their attack ads lurking in the wings. If it's hypocritical we can always count on the Libs. to deliver.

Is doing better having 500,000 more Canadians unemployed this year over last?

That's why we need a liberal government.

Lycan, in my practice when I'm dealing with a client and talking to others I always use we but I don't work for that client specifically. Figures of speech are commonly used to emphasize a point. All your reofrmatorts like to avoid taking notice of harper's many hard right, and in some cases, disgusting remarks.

One and one still equals two in my world.

Cat, our Country didn't get there with Harpos help that's for sure. Just to remind you once more, Canada has been governed by Liberals for 34 out of the last 46 years. That's how it got to be the best Country. Harpo and his clowns will make us all second class citizens as Geroge Bush had nearly done to his own people.

Cat, of course there are attack ads lurking in the wings and they are all ready to roll on a minute's notice. Liberals want to make sure Canadians don't get screwed once again by these idiots.

I ask once again. Why did Harpo feel the need to call last year's election? What major crisis were we in that needed the approval of the electorate?

You can't us either Cat…… not the next time that's for sure

Even better parody is to juxtapose one of his early comments with this latest bit.

MI says liberals can do better than the last time they governed.
How much better?
Micheal Ignatieff will tell you what they accomplished when they had 13 years to do something.
“We didn’t get it done”.

Iggy’s admission that for 13 years of liberal rule

“We didn’t get it done”

How would the Liberal party have prevented this unemployment? Your party has had well over a year to tell Canadians what they would have done differently yet we've heard nothing but crickets. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and criticize but without proposing viable alternatives your party hasn't earned any credibility.

terry1: >Its obvious this Ad is going to hit home.

CTV Poll Result

Do the new Liberal Party ads improve Ignatieff's image?

Yes 228 votes (20 %)
No 921 votes (80 %)

Total Votes: 1149

sure has terry

Can you be more specific please? How, exactly, are we becoming second class citizens under a CPC government?

This ad is amateurish. In fact it looks like one of Kinsella's homemade videos.

Waffle says “we can do better”. Of course we will . Look at the improvement since Chretien got the boot. But we won't do anything under the leadership of an effete Russkie. He wouldn't last 1 day in the Ukraine.

It's been clear since late 2007 that the CPC government was well aware of the impending economic downturn. I think the Conservatives were simply looking for a clear mandate to navigate Canada through the recession without the perpetual distraction of a possible election.

Its pretty obvious that CTV on ine polling is out of touch considering this recent one:

Who would you vote for in a possible fall election?

Conservatives 10377 votes (60 %)

Liberals 4786 votes (28 %)

NDP 1144 votes (7 %)

Other 1043 votes (6 %)

Total Votes: 17350

That simply tells the real story of who networks cater to.

So don't pass your BS on it will bite you in the a$$.

At least he didn’t accuse the PM of having a hidden agenda and sending soldiers with guns into our cities.

But the tree wont fall in the studio where this ad was made.What a bunch of phonies,pretending he is in the woods.

John doe, are you serious?

In the fall of 2008 Flaherty and Harpo were in complete denial and openly stating there was no recession and there would not be one. Were you asleep last year? Jeez!!!

should he have poised more naturally like this?

http://bastardlogic.files.wordpress.com/2007/08…

Canada, second largest country in the world. Canadian landscape is covered in beutiful forests, mountains, plains, lakes, ice, snow, and we have the longest coastline in the world. Iggy stands in front of green screen and does a fake ad for Canadians.

Where was the video taken, Sears portrait gallery?

Terry1

Cowboy. When you went to the Stampede what did you wear-rhinestones?

hey terry1…might want to check this out from a ctv poll

Poll Result

Do the new Liberal Party ads improve Ignatieff’s image?
Yes 199 votes (20 %)
No 821 votes (80 %)

Total Votes: 1020

Terry 1 you should try looking at the French language ads put out by the Lieberals before making that statement. Ignatieff still has not said anything about what he will do better; all you get is platitudes about we can do better. If that is how you basis your vote, then it is no wonder the libs do well in the east because of the gullibility of the voting public.

If we could scroll down we might find a signature at the bottom of the picture. As for not wearing a red shirt, it would look way too much like Christmas with the green backdrop, a time when he may be out of a job if he keeps running towards the cliff. Of course he'll need the help of his coalition buddies to push him over.

OR…… it could also be out behind their bunker in a ravine somewhere, no matter, he cooked his goose with that platitudinous performance. Sure hope he wasn't in Algonquin Park, that spiel would petrify any forest.
Quebec got a different line, every bit as dopey/hopey/changey. They are not consuming the snake oil either.

A leading pollster has pointed out, I believe it was Nanos, the Conservatives only need a handful more seats to get a majority.

Again Terry1 please tell me what the Lieberals would do differently if they were in power when this world economic crisis hit; remember it was the lieberals and their co-henchmen in the coalition of fools the Dippers and the Bloc who pushed for all this extra stimulus spending, on EI into automotive bailouts. So tell what would the lieberals do differently by tax and steal, Remeber Adscam the worst political scandal in Canadian history. Don't tell me that the lieberals are better fiscal managers of the economy just think back to the Trudeau years and how PET is the one that left Canada with a huge debt, devastated the West with his disastrous National Energy Program. So stop voting with your heart and use your brain for a change.

There is something creepy about the Russian Count. If Iggy thinks Canadians are going to buy this crap from a carpetbagger he has a big surprise waiting for him next election.

There is no evidence he has any leadership capabilities. He has never served in government nor in a cabinet position. More importantly there is no evidence he has any economic experience. He simply came back to the country after an absence of 34 years saying he wants to be PM. No rationale, just wants to be PM.

Of course the Liberal sycophants are so desperate to have their party back in power they will support Iggy until the polls start going south. Watch for it. The leaks will start again and the back biting will be in evidence for all to see.

Notice when Libs talk about politics they never talk about the greatness of Iggy. It is always a personal attack on the PM. That's because that's all they have.

Parnel I am glad to see you are still living in a fantasy world.

You said many of these same things about Dion. Well we all know how that turned out. Do you honestly believe Iggy is going to get a free ride from his opponents? The ads are already on youtube showing him and some of his more controversial statements. They will hit the mainstream in due course. He will be asked ad nauseum to justify, deny or outright repudiate some of them.

I don't know what papers you saw where the reviews on the ads were good. Look at the CTV poll this morning. Oh, I know they are Conservative biased.

If you don't like the Conservative posts parnel why do you aggravate yourself so much. Just move on. You can do better!

Parnel…it was your buddies who changed the system so they could reduce the number of EI claimants. If Iggy tries this in an election he is going to get chewed up and spit out. By the way the changes were made while he lived in a foreign country. He must have missed the memo.

“Cat, our Country didn't get there with Harpos help that's for sure. Just to remind you once more, Canada has been governed by Liberals for 34 out of the last 46 years. That's how it got to be the best Country. “

See, Terry1, that's exactly the mindset that Canadians who happen to lean towards the right, and whose politics tend to be conservative, strongly disagree with.

Did the builders of Canada wear an “I am/vote Liberal” badge?

I'm sure that not only conservatives but also supporters of the NDP and even Quebec nationalists resent hearing such talk, exemplified by people like Ken Dryden shouting out “I want MY Canada back!” or more recently Michael Ignatieff saying “Liberals built this country.”

Canada is NOT exclusive Liberal property.

Well, not exactly. What they said was they didn't expect there to be any deficit for 2008-2009. I'm sure you recall that the last election was about the economy. Maybe “recession” is too strong a word, but the fact is that the economy was their main concern and rightfully so. In the meantime, we're all still waiting to hear what the Liberals would have done differently.

Iggy has a unibrow, he shaves it now. Iggy is fake…

Nice try.

Iggys own words.

“we didn’t get it done”.

Chretien promised to kill the GST, then broke that promise.

Harper promised to reduce the GST, and fufilled that promise.

Now Iggy is saying the libs can do better, better than what?
Better than the last time we let them govern?
Or finding a “better way” to not get caught like they did when the lid got blown off of Adscam?

Again, you guys have a leader that speaks only in vague generalities nothing specific, letting the other guys define exactly what he meant.

But I’ll give you the opportunity right now.

How would a liberal government justify putting 500,000 people on the government payroll, and what “job” are they going to be doing, and how is it going to be paid for without creating an even bigger deficit?

Oh wait, you never said the liberals would actually do anything about it, you just said that because there are “500,000″ unemployed we should elect a liberal government.
Nothing about what the “big plan” is, just vague generalities like when Dion intorduced his idea for a carbon tax.
If you don’t give specifics, either its policy on the fly, like say promising to eliminate the NWSC in the middle of a leaders debate, or that if you revealed the true cost that you will get pummelled at the polls…again.

Iggy even admitted that they needed to sell the carbon tax by not selling it as a tax…you know purposely hide the truth…like Adscam…or like promising to kill the GST….or promising a gun registry won’t cost more than 2 million….or committing Canada to Kyoto without having a plan…or after bleeding our military of neccessary funding raiding that same military budget to buy Challenger jets we didn’t need.

Better than that?

“the liberal party, we’re better than nothing.”

Mervin, Im not agitated nor aggravated at all. I'm very happy the way things are heading.

Look a tthe CTV poll in conjunction with other polls of their on politics and you will see thyey are skewered totally away from many many scientific polls.

The ad will bring out the nutbars and that's opk becasue it focuses them on the stupid stuff they get their rocks off on.
Theses ads will get tougher and tougher and ask the really hard questions Harpo cannot answer. A chess game s not one move but a strategy to get Check mate.

The Libs would not HAVE BEEN IN DENIAL like the cons were last fall and would have set some clear signals out about the coming recession.

Mervin some people have bought the goods from harpo and he is not a salesman but just an ideolgue hiding behind a blue sweater.

whar government position or cabinet did harpo ever serve in before he became PM. How many Countries had he visited outside of Canada prior to having the military be his toursit guide.

Just to set the record straight…its not about Iggy,its about a great political party,that has endured on its own since confederation, headed by a very bright guy with a view on the world and his country that will be well received when he decides to publish. So far he hasn't had to because of the dismal performance of his main opponent.

OMG, what a line of fiddle faddle.

I agree with the blog owner's assessment of Iggy's ad, it's a parody. If it was meant to be a parodesiac, it fell flat.

Its fuddle duddle to you.

“headed by a very bright guy with a view on the world and his country that will be well received when he decides to publish”.

hey terry 1/Parnel , thanks for the comic relief.
I can't believe you're not wetting yourself as you write this stuff.
you're clearly wearing the same shade of rose-coloured glasses as the infamous Steve V.

if he`s so bright, what he doing in the Liberal partyÉ

Parnel…Harper at least participated in our political process. What did
your guy do? Host a talk show, teach human rights and wrote books. I don't
disparage those activities but it hardly prepares him to lead the country in
this complex age.

You can push his cosmopolitan ways but that won't get you any points with
seriously ordinary Canadians. The fact is most Canadians have not travelled
very far from Canada. So Harper will be seen as one of them. Your guy will
be seen as elitist.

Obviously you are pining for the good old days of the Liberal party. Those
days are long gone thanks to Chretien/Martin who virtually destroyed the
party with their internecine war. You guys are lost in the wilderness trying
to search for a liberalism that applies to today.

You are mistaken my friend the next election will be all about Iggy. That
has to be very disquieting for die hard Libs like yourself. Iggy forced the
election making it all about him. Now it is time to pay the piper. Harper,
Layton and Duceppe are going to attack him unmercifully.

The day the Liberal party signed onto a coalition pact with the NDP allowing
the Bloc to control parliament was the death knell for the Liberal party in
the next election. Canadians outside Quebec said a resounding no to that
form of government, legal or otherwise.

So we will see how the arrogant Iggy stands up to the pressure of the next
election not having to run for anything before.

Have a look at this link. This is going to appear during an election whether
you guys like it or not.

http://thealbertaardvark.blogspot.com/2009/09/i…

Tricky dick was a nickname for Nixon…so its appropriate you, a reformatort supporter would use it.

That's my real laugh for today.

Iggy better be prepared to tell Canadians how he will rid himself of the
deficit in the short term without cutting programs, transfers to the
provinces and increasing taxes. Glib, Havardian words will not cut it.

Harper will need to do the same thing but I am afraid the Libs are the ones
with the tax and spend reputation. Any attack on Harper over the deficit
will result in the Conservatives running ads showing the Libs and the other
stooges wanting more spending including a second stimulus package. Good luck
with that approach.

Let the ads get tougher. The fact remains is for every ad that the Libs run
and they can't afford to do too many the other opponents will kick the Count
in the nuts. There is lots of info in the public domain.

By the way how come the ad ends with the banner that is the flag of Monaco
and when its turned upside down it is the flag of Poland. Still have
trouble with those videos eh Parnel.

We can do better than the Libs.

Yes the picture was taken at Sears in the same spot as the blue sweater photo of Harpo was taken….is that ok?

If you think being part of the political is the only preparation for higher office then why bother with voting so often. Elect the MP's once an me them all independent and then let them appoint the PM. That's the kind of nonsense you are promoting.

The Libs don't need iggy to be that experienced as they have a ton of experienced people in their shadow cabinet and in the senate. Their senate appointees are not all from the MSM.

Amen, Gabby.

More than anything I resent Libberals who have expropriated my country as their own.

Liberal values are NOT Canadian values, thank god.

Ignatieff is just the puppet plaything of the Bloc Torontois Champaigne Sipping Liberal Socialist Elites who will toss Iggy under the bus with the same cold blooded heartlessness that they used on the hapless Stephane Dion before him as soon as Iggy is no longer of any use.

There is only one person spouting nonsense on these boards…and that is you
Parnel. We are comfortable where we stand on the issues but on the other
hand you never know what is going to come spilling forth from that
cosmopolitan intellectual elitist you call a leader.

TwoYen/Gabby…the country Dryden and others talk about getting back is the Country of about 70% of all Canadians. It is you who has it wrong and it is your very small minority of very right wing supporters of Harper who support him financially much more than any other element of that party that is trying to gain control of the agenda. thake you party back to being progessive vs hard core right andyou might see less vitriol. your blind support of Harper is driven by anti Liberal drivel and not any particular ideal that Harper espouses. That's where you would regret voting him into a majority and you should thank Canadians like me who see through his veneer and are determined to make sure he never makes it.

Reform values are not even close to Canadian values and fit in George Bush's discredited mess.

You are comfortable on what issues, Mevin? The denials and lies that become issues way after the fact, like the deficit and the recession or the $50BB deficit that I'm willing to wager goes to $60BB by fiscal year end.

I'm comfortable that over 70% of all Canadians don't like Harpo's ideology and that includes many conservative voters who are from the former progressive Conservatives and have been totally ignored by the party apparatus. That won't last much longer.

I'm comfortable that a liberal goverment will attack issues like unemployment and will stimulate the economy in a real way and not by hooking onto existing projects already announced. I'm comfortable that a Liberla will treat all Canadians equally and not pour money into select segments of our society.

You can wail and moan all you want but the facts are there and sooner or later the left will align itself. Of the 181 seats in Central Canada the left won around 13o of those;plus almost 75% of the maritime seats….think about that while you get more more and more angry as all Tories do.

LOL.

Found this apparently authentic amateur NDP effort here as well, pretty damn funny. Slams Warren Kinsella’s recent, and characteristically staggering hypocrisy when Jack and the PM had their recent unproductive but cordial meeting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOv77Q3EhtU

Enjoy, Tory compatriots on mine.

LOL.

Found this apparently authentic amateur NDP effort here as well, pretty damn funny. Slams Warren Kinsella’s recent, and characteristically staggering hypocrisy when Jack and the PM had their recent unproductive but cordial meeting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOv77Q3EhtU

Enjoy, Tory compatriots on mine.

First of all votes are not fungible and so until the NDP decides they want
to join the Libs you are stuck with the current reality.

You said: “will attack issues like unemployment and will stimulate the
economy” If a $50 billion deficit doesn't stimulate the economy then nothing
will. Oh, I know the Libs would spend differently. I know how. Create
another program to buy their friends so they can buy votes in Quebec.
Message to Parnel the government does not create jobs (unless everybody is
going to work for the government). They create the environment to create
jobs. How will the Libs do that. I guess that will be kept for the campaign.
Lets see Iggy get that message out when he is busy defending the coalition,
war, Bush, terror, being an American and Britain being his favourite
country.

It is the Libs who are name callers and are angry. They are angry because
most Canadians believe the PM is best to handle the economy. Watch the polls
this week Parnel. Iggy is forcing an election and your polls are going to go
south.

As I told you before Conservatives are not unhappy with where they are
today. They know what they stand for while the Libs are searching for a
savior (its not Iggy) and struggle to find a winning formula to beat back
the Conservatives.

Trust me Parnel we had these same conversations when Dion was leader. You
jumped on the bandwagon cheering your leader to oblivion.

Parnel….read it and weep. I told you that the polls will only get worse.
Iggy is on the path to no return.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ne…

you also leaped for joy when the rogue poll came out two weeks ago. This ome's just about as accurate. EKOS and NANOS are the only two to follow right now. EKOS becasue thye are polling more than enough people,over 2,000 per weekly poll and Nanos becasue he knows how to poll accurately and consistently.

Mervin, that's your best shot? wow are you ever slipping. Fisrt of all my point was to make sure you understnad that that you creepy Reform types are not in the majority in Canada. The real majority resides with red tories and liberals and those forces need to coalesce. sooner than later Harpo will drive that to happen as he continues to keep his progressives hidden.

The rest of your diatribe was just drivel from your rat infested province.

Mervin, further.

Harpo is very vulnerable right now and that scares the hell out of you and the 12/16 hours a day you spend posting (whining) to every blog and newspaper in the land

I'm one of those guys that Iggy could potentially convince to vote Liberal (for the first time in many many years).

I've been a loyal conservative voter but Harper hasn't done what he said he would do, and to me that has always been what has separated the Liberals from the Conservatives: Liberals say what they need to in order to win, regardless of what they've promised, and Conservatives stay faithful to their end of the political spectrum and play with whatever cards they're dealt as a result.

Harper successfully moved his party as far to the centre as its going to probably get while still keeping all the various factions together, and ran an extremely effective election campaigns with clear messages that resonated with voters. But in the last 2 years he's been doing what Liberals do, which is do and say whatever keeps you in power, probably internally justifying it with “well if the OTHER guy gets in this chair, he's really gonna screw things up”.

So i wouldn't call myself an completely undecided voter, but certainly my vote is up for grabs for the first time since the 80s.

So unlike most of you on here who already know how you're going to vote, i'm looking at these ads with an 'ok, convince me' attitude.

I suspect these are just introductory ads trying to set the bar for Iggy as a big picture, global leader. They're not bad, but they're not really good either.

And just like harper's 2nd campaign against Martin, you have to be really good to swing the pendulum.

Still, we're probably 2 months away from an election, and that's a lifetime in election politics.

Incidentially, my inlaws are lifelong Liberal supporters (and volunteers for years as well) but voted against the Liberals for the first time in the last election (Thornhill, Peter Kent's riding). My father-in-law summed up his position as of today: “Harper hasn't been great, but he hasn't been that bad either, all things considered”.

Again, i'm inclined to vote conservative by nature, but the Libs need voters like him if they want the election map to change, and they don't sound like they're close to changing his mind.

Of course any poll that does not favour the Libs is an outlier.

Think what you will about IR poll but they are a reputable firm and they
would not “cook” the books for the Conservatives and you know it.

Give it a rest parnel. Accept the fact that Iggy is not catching on with
Canadians.

His bland ad in front of a fake forest ain't going to cut it other than with
the kool-aid drinking Libs crowd. What about the flag of Monaco and Poland
eh? You guys can't shoot straight when it comes to making videos.

As long as enough people vote Conservative in this country to elect us to
government that is all we need.

Parnel I wouldn't get too cocky. Only 26% had any use for Libs last time
out.

Progressive hidden agenda. Well if he has one then we certainly don't need
the Libs do we.

Your last comment does not deserve a response. It only reflects badly on you
and emphasizes the fact you and the Libs are desperate.

Not looking too good for the Liberals in Quebec, appears they're on a slide. I'd say Iggy greased their butts, he's taking them nowhere fast, puffin poop does not a good foundation make.

An election would really fix things for them big time, it will give them all the time they need to rebuild their crumbling house. People like Coderre, or Rae are not going to do it either.

The CPC has more small donors than the Liebranos. It is not a small minority of right wing people, it is a large number of regular Canadians that contribute financially (average approx $130 a year), because CPC represents their values not some holier than thou pie in the sky dream fest. If you are gonna spout off get your facts straight. It was the PET Liberals that put programs into the budget that became structural line items that needed continued funding thus resulting in structural deficits in the 70's, which were compounded by the NEP, high interest and recession of the 80's.

Mervin, this blast from the past is a good indicator of what could happen. Keep sticking your chest out but hang on to your suspenders so they don't bust and leave you exposed:
…………………………………………….
NEWS
Campbell best-liked PM in 30 years: poll
By Edison Stewart TORONTO STAR
16 August 1993

OTTAWA – Kim Campbell has the highest approval rating of any Canadian prime minister in 30 years, according to a Gallup poll.

Slightly more than half of the respondents – 51 per cent – approve of how she is handling her job while only 22 per cent disapprove, the survey found.

“Not since the days of Lester B. Pearson (who hit 56 per cent in 1963) has a Canadian prime minister received as high an approval rating as Kim Campbell does today,” Gallup reported.

The only other prime minister to receive a higher rating since 1957 was John Diefenbaker, who hit 52 per cent in 1959.

there is an interesting utube video on the blogsite of :

http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/

I'm sure you will all enjoy some rather interesting facts.

Mervin, here''s another news story from the first week of that campaign(I don't think I need to repeat the news form the actual election that year):
News
ELECTION '93 THE GLOBE POLL: Poll shows PCs, Liberals neck and neck Campbell popularity key to rise in Tory support, Globe survey finds
by Hugh Winsor GLOBE AND MAIL
16 September 1993

Pushed by the strongly positive public perception of their Leader, Kim Campbell, the Conservatives have caught up to and may have edged past the Liberals as the popular vote choice of Canadians, a new Globe and Mail”ComQuest Research Group poll indicates.

The poll of 1,446 eligible voters taken between Sept. 8 and Sept. 14, the first week of the election campaign, found that on a national basis the Progressive Conservative Party had the support of 36 per cent of people who have made up their mind or are leaning toward a specific party, compared with 33 per cent for the Liberal Party, 11 per cent for the Reform Party, 10 per cent for the Bloc Quebecois, 8 per cent for the New Democrats and 2 per cent for the National Party.

Did Harper break the law or is he just dishonest?:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Harper+2008…

That suit, filed last September, was being heard Tuesday before Justice Michel Shore of the Federal Court of Canada.

“If Democracy Watch wins, the Federal Court will rule that Prime Minister Harper is a dishonest lawbreaker because he gave false reasons for calling the snap federal election last September in violation of his own fixed-election-date law,” Duff Conacher said.

“If Democracy Watch loses, the court will rule that Prime Minister Harper is a dishonest promise-breaker because he failed to keep his 2006 election promise to pass a law fixing election dates.”

Democracy Watch lawyer Peter Rosenthal argued Tuesday that a plain reading of the legislation governing election dates, combined with comments made by Conservative MP Rob Nicholson — justice minister at the time of the bill's introduction — support the contention that Harper should not have been able to ask Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean to dissolve Parliament last September.
…………………………

I think he both broke the law and is dishonest as well.

The CRAP party definitely has moere small donors than the Libs but the day is soon coming when the libs will have both more donors and more donations from each. Its called commitment!!!!!

I would say you are the one spouting off because you are obviously unaware of Iggy's recent track record in signing new members. The Libs now have over 100,000 members. How many does the reformatort party have ? And how many are outside of Western Canada.

PET did nothing of the kind. Any program he put in place could and should have been cancelled by future governments once they ran their course. Mulroney clearly failed in that department.

Back to the books,single malt……..but do it sober this time.

The CPC has well over 160,000 donors on an annual basis. It balloons to over 250,000 during an election year. How many members has he racked up in western CDA, doesn't even come close to what the CPC has in eastern membership? If it wasn't for the $1.95 per vote the Libranos would be broke. Since 2005 the CPC has averaged over $22 million a year, the Libs barely $8 million.

PET grew the national debt at a higher rate in more expensive dollars during his tenure with structural programs ( which were permanent)that he implemented. He also borrowed the money at short periods of time with the majority of his debt maturing during the highest interest rate period this country had ever seen, which he renewed for longer period then he did before, cause he knew he was not going to win the next election. The deficits the ole' Irish Chin raked up was equivalent to the interest payments on PETS debt. Just look at the annual audited reports.

With the good stuff you only drink a dram or two. That cheap gallon jug wine you must be lifting to your flapping lips have obviously clouded your judgement.

Oh Parnel I know times are tough for Libs and will be even tougher tomorrow
when Nanos shows his new poll.

Having to scrape up a 16 year old newspaper article to make a point. What
point would that be?

Unlike you who believe that the Libs have a divine right to govern and
nothing should change that perception I do realize that politics is a tough
business. However, the problem for the Libs is that they finally have a
worthy opponent and cannot figure out what he will do next.

How do you like the appointment of Dewar. When Harper asked me about it I
said go for it (just kidding).

Parnel look at the news coverage. Look at the columnists opinions. Look at
what Canadians are saying. They do not want an election and yet your
intellectual, cosmopolitan, arrogant leader ignores it all. So go forward at
your peril and see what happens.

The tide has changed and it is not in the Libs favour. Harper is going to
win a majority government this time out and your guys will have 4 years to
track down a new saviour.

More bad news for the Liberals tomorrow.

mervin, just how tough is it? Do you see iggy and his tema running for the hills? Even the other opposition parties are jumping on board. They semll tory blood!!!

As for the 16 year old ad…it simply says that campaigns are what elects governments not pre election polls. You choose to ignore the similarity that is ab out to happen.

the tide has changed all right and Harper will be swept out by the undertow.

Iggy is baout to show you ignaorant Saskatooners just how smart he is. He might even help sink some rats for you.

you're starting to whine and get blustery…..good sign for the Libs.

SINGLE MALT, you've been down in the cellar sniffing those old barrels again. your stats are as drunk as you are. Go sleep it off.

Keep drinking that swill Parnel. We will all see what we will see. Once
again you said many of the same things about Dion and Harper is back in
government with a stronger minority.

The swill is the garbage fed to us by this fraudulent government.

Iggy has raised almost ten million dolalrs in 9 months. He has signed about 80,000 new members and more are joining every day.

He has a much smarter war room and a much better strategic team.

He has a proven war room leader and winner in Kinsella.

Harpo has a record of doing nothing and that will be front and center.

Rave on Parnel rave on!

While you all get your jollies over the nanos poll showing the reformatorts with a 4% lead………bear in mind there were 24.6% undecideds, 28% in Ontario alone,23% in Quebec with accuracy of around +-7/8% in each province. It is also a summer poll where the party in power always does better and Harpo was maoikng several announcements a day last week. The Libs were just having their caucus meeting then as well so that Iggy's announcement is probably not factored in.

I also do not think the dippers dropped 10% and gave those votes to the reformatorts in the maritimes. Highly unlikely.

On the leadership question an interesting number is the fact Harpo's numbers as best PM went down 3% in a period where he was clearly very visible and Iggy's went down only 1% while he was pretty much invisible to the public and before his announcement on the 1st when the poll was just baout completed.

1. anyone getting their jollies over a poll BEFORE the writ is dropped hasn't paid attention over the last 30 years

2. BUT, if anyone is getting their jollies over this poll it's to see how there can never, ever, be any bad news for the Liberals according to some supporters.

I didn't say whether it was good news or bad….I said it was a SUMMER poll.

With polls, you just never know, but trends are key and Liberals are trending down on all counts as people are slowly returning from what passed for summer.

Panic is descending on the Liberal camp as a result of your leader's bravado, he's taken them to the cliff and there's no turning back.

Are you questioning your favourite, most accurate pollster? The Dippers have been dropping, Jack is sounding a tad nervous, ready to work with the government, well after he postures and huffs through his 'stache for a bit…..

Looks like Mr Ignatieff and his team aren't too creative – no policies, a lust for power wrapped in an Obama-like campaign isn't going to fool anyone.

Par for the course from Canada's LIEberal$.

truthfairy, I'm well past the tooth fairy part of my life; glad to see you haven't grown up,though.

did I suggest I was questioning my favorite pollster. With 25% undecideds the poll automatically becomes more inaccurate and I'm sure Nik would agree.

I for one am not worried and neither are the party brass from what I see and hear.

yada yada yada…can't you ever change the same off key tune? Policies are issued at election time but that doesn't appear to stop your whining about them. where are Harpo's policies?

The fact the “party brass” are not worried. well so you say, should worry the hell out of you. It's proof they're not seeing and facing reality.

You being a fairy would surely understand that

Don't you just love headlines that marry similar people together; liars and cheaters of the world united:

John Ibbitson
Harper's fate tied up with Karzai's
With another election looming, and the situation in Afghanistan deteriorating , the Tories especially face electoral erosion over the Afghan adventure

As one who is SO looking forward to the upcoming Conservative majority government, I just want to say a great big THANK YOU to Iggy, Jack and Gilles (went up the hill?) for their outstanding wisdom and good sense, to read the Canadian public's current desire for an election, and how the public are ready and willing to punish, and punish they will, those willing to bring one on.

Yes – for those wondering what the path to a Conservative majority might be, I believe we have tapped it.

Terry, your LIEberal$ are going down, and going down hard!

This ad is a HOOT!

When Ignatieff mentioned reaching out to India and China, I couldn't help seeing Jean Chretien and Mo Strong standing over his left shoulder. Ignatieff, Strong, and Chretien might just as well have been doing a Kumbaya circle dance around one of those green trees.

The LPC is morally and ethically bankrupt and seem to have no ability to discern between an effective ad and a joke.

I'm doubled over …

Does Terry actually have a real job or is he secretly from Narnia and now living in his adoptive families basement as a shut in afraid to see the light of day?

LOL…maybe you need to go back and start polling some of your Liberal team mates on how they really feel… What's to say they aren't trying to send your great leader the message that if he pulls the trigger on an election they will pull the trigger on him?

and I have to ask…Does Terry actually have a real job or is he secretly from Narnia and now living in his adoptive families basement as a shut in afraid to see the light of day?

MrEd256: ” Does Terry actually have a real job …?”

I suspect that this IS his/her full-time job, and that the LPC is paying him/her to shoot back a response to every comment on Stephen's blog. (S/he's been a little slow in the past 24 hours.) Someone, somewhere seems to think that this blog needs to be hijacked by nincompoop responses which clog up the intelligent commentary.

I guess in some ways having terry1 clog your blog is a backhanded compliment, an admission that this blog needs to be scuppered … but it's a damned shame.

It appears that old bats never die and just keep whining.

The only one who pays me is me,sorry about that.

Why don't you talk about the scandal that is Harpo;the most unethical PM ever.

Does Terry actually have a real job or is he secretly from Narnia and now living in his adoptive families basement as a shut in afraid to see the light of day?

LOL…maybe you need to go back and start polling some of your Liberal team mates on how they really feel… What's to say they aren't trying to send your great leader the message that if he pulls the trigger on an election they will pull the trigger on him?

and I have to ask…Does Terry actually have a real job or is he secretly from Narnia and now living in his adoptive families basement as a shut in afraid to see the light of day?

MrEd256: ” Does Terry actually have a real job …?”

I suspect that this IS his/her full-time job, and that the LPC is paying him/her to shoot back a response to every comment on Stephen's blog. (S/he's been a little slow in the past 24 hours.) Someone, somewhere seems to think that this blog needs to be hijacked by nincompoop responses which clog up the intelligent commentary.

I guess in some ways having terry1 clog your blog is a backhanded compliment, an admission that this blog needs to be scuppered … but it's a damned shame.

It appears that old bats never die and just keep whining.

The only one who pays me is me,sorry about that.

Why don't you talk about the scandal that is Harpo;the most unethical PM ever.