Will Professor Ignatieff make us go to summer school?

At the moment, the Prime Minister and Michael Ignatieff are meeting to discuss infrastructure funding, possible changes to EI eligibility and, as we’re quite sure, engaging in rational discourse.

Last week, the government released its second report on the status of the Economic Action Plan and Ignatieff told reporters that it was too serious to grade the government, yet he stated that it had “failed” yet Canadians “don’t want an election right now”. What is the state of our system? A student fails the course but gets a pass because the parents have already planned the summer vacation? And to torture the metaphor a little more, I ask, is Michael Ignatieff really advocating that while failing Conservatives, he allow Canadians qualify for a fully paid sabbatical after six weeks of work? The 45 day work year, set to be defended by Liberals on an election trail near you, surely will not cause a stampede of voters to the ballot box. This really cannot be Ignatieff’s plan.

So what is really going on here? Flashback one year to the hapless Stephane Dion going into the summer, the Prime Minister’s neutered foe who rubber-stamped every piece of legislation by heading up the abstaining opposition. There is chatter around town that Michael Ignatieff is following Dion in his indecisiveness, however, this may instead represent an element of political narcissism for professor Ignatieff. The shovels are in the ground, the money is leaving the federal treasury to build infrastructure projects all over this country and Michael Ignatieff tells everyone to wait; Iggy has an important decision to make. To threaten to plunge the country into its fourth election in five years (with a $1.2 Billion tab) just so the media doesn’t frame him as the second coming of Stephane shows that he wants to know that his opinion – whatever he finds it to be – is relevant. As for his pensive pondering, he spent enough time in university seminars musing about the prolix and banal, yet as he transitions from the theoretical to applied, Dr. Ignatieff is showing that he is finding it difficult to both suck and blow.

In his press conference yesterday, Ignatieff used soft words such as “replace confrontation with cooperation”, “we cannot allow ourselves to act irresponsibly”, “if the government needs to sit a little longer, so be it” , “the Liberal party accepts the need for deficit spending in tough times”, “we want to make parliament work for all Canadians”, “I just want to give a sign to the Prime Minister that I’m a reasonable person. If he has employment proposals that he wants to bring forward, he needs a little more time, let’s not let the arbitrary deadline of Friday the be the all and end all. Let’s keep this serene and calm and business-like” Do these sound like bellicose words? So, why the drama Dr. Ignatieff?

He supported the Conservative budget earlier this year, he voted for the Conservative changes to EI. The Conservative government is spending billions of dollars in an effort to stimulate the economy. Why is this about him?

Michael Ignatieff knows that Canadians want him to allow Parliament to work, but he pauses to let us all know that it will only do so after he’s scowled at our exams.

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  • Jen

    That's the idea, why should the liberal reveal a plan. In their eyes, you are stupid to know the differences, for instances, the plans they so call said they will see too only transpired in their party and while they were doing it in front of your face- you said nothing nor did the media. So, why not continue year after year after year. They knew very well that they will be voted back in.

  • terry1

    An election promise kept that was never made by Harpo the magician:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/silver-pow

    “The thing is, this “campaign promise” is made-up. It never existed. It wasn't in the 2008 Conservative platform (PDF). It wasn't in the 2006 Conservative platform (PDF). In fact, I'm pretty sure the first time the Prime Minister ever floated the idea of fully extending full, voluntary EI benefits to the self-employed was this week

    The closest the Conservative Party came to such a “campaign promise” was in 2008 when they ran on a plank to extend maternity and paternal benefits to self-employed Canadians that would be paid out of the EI fund. The press release at the time could not have been more clear; opt-in to the EI system if you are self-employed, make payments for at least six months prior to taking the parental leave and you too, mister or misses self-employed worker, can take a parental leave. That's it, that's all.

    What would it do for you if you lose your job? Nothing, unless you or your spouse had a kid the day before the bad news came.

    Harper was very clear during the 2008 campaign that this was simply a parental benefit. The headline in the press release was “Extending maternity and parental benefits to self-employed Canadians”. The only time the words “self-employed” appear in the 2008 platform, it says “a re-elected Conservative Government led by Stephen Harper will give self-employed Canadians the opportunity to access maternity and parental benefits”.

    Not a word about self-employed”

    The rabbit in the hat is exposed as a chicken.

  • David

    It must be frustrating to know that it was the bankers that told Iggy no to an election thus keeping “Harpo the Magician” in power. What will the excuse be in the fall; bad polling numbers, good jobs, angry bankers, not organized enough, bad weather , Christmas etc……

  • terry1

    David, If you believe gossip that a now disgraced minister was discussing with her aide I have a bridge to sell you. John McCallum was at the meeting, he was a banker, and said that nothing of the kind was stated. He did say the bankers were looking for the $200MM package to be approved.

  • David

    MaCallum doesn't even know what kind of car he drives.

  • terry1

    Gabby the lone regressive QC tory…..Forget it and go back to disney land…there is no malaise in the LPC but many are itching to go now as they would love to kick Harpo's ass.

    It will be better timing in september now that Iggy has forced Harpo to agree to specific dates for opposition days. Keep September 28th circled on your calendar. I don't mind Harper running around all summer handing out goodies like they were candy. It just adds to his poor economic performance.

    Iggy's “visit” will soon be permanent at 24 sussex Dr.

  • terry1

    And Harpo can't count…..so we're even.

  • Liz J

    Not too sure who's telling the truth any more. Senator David Smith was just on PP and said they were ready to go to an election, admitted they would have to borrow. That sounds like some financial institution was prepared to lend them money. Any guesses?

    Bob Fife thinks Iggy is in a good position for a Fall election, not sure why he would come to that conclusion aside form wishful thinking and cockeyed optimism.

    Most think the economy will be improved or going along as the PM has predicted and there will be no credible reason to take down the government.

    Ralph Goodale is lost at sea, his desperation is gaining on him. It will be tough for Ralphie to retire from politics as an Opposition MP.

  • terry1

    I presume it won't take him long to find all the goodies at 24 Sussex about Nov. 1 with all his worldy travel experience.

  • Gayle

    It is cute that you do not want to admit Harper gave in on anything, but the old Harper would have said “my way or the highway”.

    And he didn't.

  • Gabby in QC

    Youhoo! Terry, did I say there is malaise in the LPC?
    Or is it your own slip of the tongue?
    All I said is that the Liberals could possibly renege (look it up) on the promise they made.
    However, it might be difficult to do given they signed on to this:
    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/652118
    “Liberals announce Employment Insurance working group and fall accountability framework
    OTTAWA – The Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition today agreed to form a working group to develop proposals for Employment Insurance eligibility reform that will:
    (a) allow self-employed Canadians to participate voluntarily in the Employment Insurance system; and
    (b) improve eligibility requirements in order to ensure regional fairness. …
    The working group will deliver recommendations to the Prime Minister, the Leader of the Opposition and Canadians by September 28, 2009. …
    In addition, the Liberals will support the main and supplementary estimates this Friday.

    “they would love to kick Harpo's ass”
    Oh my, Stephen wants the bar at a certain level in these discussions. I don't think he means at an S&M level. Your fantasies have no place here. Tsk, tsk.

    “Iggy's “visit” will soon be permanent at 24 sussex Dr.”
    Once again, you're right, although unintentionally.
    Ignatieff will indeed become a permanent visitor – i.e. he will not be a resident of 24 Sussex anytime soon.

    “It is better to be alone than in bad company.” Ralph Waldo Emerson

  • terry1

    Keep dreamin g and keep being the only tory at anyquebec love ins. The rest of yourstuff is still disney world fantasies.

    I said permanent visitor “at” meaning all PM's are visitors there as guests of the Canadian people until their term is up or like Harpo will be…. turfed out. .

  • terry1

    “The Reformatories will try and spin this as a victory for their side, naturally. They’ll say we Grits can’t object to their economic plan because we’ve supported their budget, blah blah blah. That’s a load of horseshit, and they know it: Stephen Harper got up on his hind legs and voted for a Paul Martin budget in May 2005, and it didn’t seem to come up very often in the election campaign that happened shortly afterwards, did it? Nope. He won that election; Michael will win the one that’s coming up.”

    Warren Kinsella….June 17/09

  • terry1

    • The Reformatories capitulated, big time, where it counts: Michael forced them to support a Liberal motion – coming to the House on Friday – that that sets out a detailed calendar for the Fall, engraving our Opposition days in stone. That’s important because the Reformatories won’t be able to able to play bob and weave, as they had already started to do. It’s important because we can still kick their asses out of government when we decide – not them. It’s important because the Cons really, really, really didn’t want to do it.

    another Warren Kinsella gem

  • Gabby in QC

    Your forays into BT terriTORY are usually denigraTORY and condemnaTORY.

    Your derogaTORY remarks only serve as confirmaTORY evidence that you fail in the exposiTORY department.
    You engage in rotaTORY movements in order to make what you hope is a confirmaTORY point, but your explicaTORY attempts still end up being no more revelaTORY than your initial statement.

    “It is better to be alone than in bad company.” Ralph Waldo Emerson

  • terry1

    I TORYoughly thank you for commenTORY

  • gimbol

    What exactly did Ignatieff get that he was asking for?

    Do you really expect canadians to believe that Ignatieff was willing to put the country into a summer election just for two seats on a blue ribbon panel on EI?

    Thats some pretty thin gruel.

  • gimbol

    What exactly did Ignatieff get that he was asking for?

    Do you really expect canadians to believe that Ignatieff was willing to put the country into a summer election just for two seats on a blue ribbon panel on EI?

    Thats some pretty thin gruel.

  • gimbol

    What exactly did Ignatieff get that he was asking for?

    Do you really expect canadians to believe that Ignatieff was willing to put the country into a summer election just for two seats on a blue ribbon panel on EI?

    Thats some pretty thin gruel.

  • gimbol

    Terry:

    Just what is it that Harper gave Iggy that Iggy actually asked for?

  • gimbol

    Terry:

    Just what is it that Harper gave Iggy that Iggy actually asked for?

  • gimbol

    Terry:

    Just what is it that Harper gave Iggy that Iggy actually asked for?

  • Gabby in QC

    It’s commendaTORY that you attempted to engage in a joculaTORY exercise similar to mine.

    Regretfully, your contribuTORY offerings are not applicaTORY, strictly speaking, because the words are misspelled – but laudaTORY nonetheless.

    So please accept my congratulaTORY remarks.

  • terry1

    I thank you for your laudaTORY remarks. I will LIBERALLY remember them. The explanaTORY reasons for my joculaTORY mood is the fact we will soon no longer be making explanaTORY excuses for our poorly managed TORY party since we will be liberally governed.

    I hope I am ambulaTORY enough to walk to the poll booth at the beginning of November

  • Rich

    Mary: good points; also most employees once they get laid off do received a severance package, and with the rules introduced by the Libs in the 90's do not allow workers to apply for EI until the severance runs out. e.g., Alberta provides a severance package of 8 weeks pay, and some companies will give more dependent on the years of service.

  • Rich

    Out West there are a number of Liberal seats ( Joyce Murray, Ujjal Dosanjh, Suk Daliwhall, and maybe Dr Keith Martin) who narrowly one their ridings. Probably the only Lib MP in a relatively safe riding is Hedy Fry. Alberta Linda Duncan NDP will lose her seat definitely Ralphie G almost lost his seat in the last election; the Libs had to bring in their big guns to salvage a win for Ralphie. Manitoba I believe have only one seat and that is held by a Liberal MP Anita, …..? PMSH should hold on to his existing seats in Ontario and the maritimes, Maybe Danny Williams might have an anybody but Liberal campaign in NL. The CPC did have 3 seats and they can recover those 3. In Quebec, I am not sure but I think the PM can hold on to at least 3 seats in Quebec.

    So where is Count Iggs going to get the additional seats from I have no idea.

  • Rich

    Terry: If you have been paying attention to the polls Ignatieff has not really taken a commanding lead of the PMSH. THe Nanos poll is the one with the biggest lead which shows 37% for Ignatieff and 33% for Harper all other show that the spread is well within the margin of error of +-3% so If I
    were you I would not brag to much. If you go back to the Liberal Convention in 2006 that chose Dion as leader, right after the convention Dion had a 40% voter support, because he was new (kind of a honeymoon with voters) Iggnatieff had that same honeymoon; but now the honeymoon is starting to wear off, because he has not come out with any policies on what he would do if he were PM. And he waffles back and forth on every thing.

    Just think before making your comments

  • terry1

    Show me which poll has the honeymoon wearing off. Nanos is the best pollster of the bunch and he is showing a poll over poll improvement in Iggy's numbers . He has some other polls out showing the personal unpopularity of Harpercrite.

    There will be a full court Tory press this summer handing out goodies like candy but Iggy has a few things going on this summer also. The fall will show further deterioration of Harpercrites' numbers as the economic malaise hits its stride. The stimulus stuff will not kick in until spring of 2010. Its bye bye Harpo time.

  • Rich

    Terry BatB is quite right, tell me what did Ignatieff get out of PMSH, before Iggy went into the meetings, he was pushing and demanding 360 hours of work( 45 days)to qualify for 52 weeks of EI. question Did Ignatieff get this? answer no the Prime Minister told him in no uncertain terms that that was a non-starter. Iggy was offered a Blue Chip panel with 3 libs on it to discuss reforms to EI; Part of the PM's campaign promise in the last election was to allow self employed workers to opt into EI. A reform the PM had long before this temper tantrum.

    He got an extra oppposition day in september, that is something all opposition parties get, it is
    decided by government House leader.

    So Once again tell me what did Iggy get?

  • Rich

    Terry; Prime Minister Harper voted for Paul Martin's budget in 2005 because the Atlantic Accord was part of the budget, and he wanted that piece of legislation to go through.

  • terry1

    Rich, I will let the great Warren Kinsella do the talking for me here:
    The Reformatories capitulated, big time, where it counts: Michael forced them to support a Liberal motion – coming to the House on Friday – that that sets out a detailed calendar for the Fall, engraving our Opposition days in stone. That’s important because the Reformatories won’t be able to able to play bob and weave, as they had already started to do. It’s important because we can still kick their asses out of government when we decide – not them. It’s important because the Cons really, really, really didn’t want to do it. (Don’t make plans to be away on September 28, either.)
    • As the media are reporting, there was progress on EI – in that Michael got Harper to admit that having 58 different eligibility standards across the country is a problem. That’s something they haven’t admitted before. That’s a win, for people who need help right now.
    The bottom line is this: the Liberal team was ready to go. As the week began, we had no sense whatsoever that the Reformatories intended to fold in the way that they did. We’ve now got plenty of opportunities for confidence votes now set for the Fall. We were ready before, we are readier now, and we’ll be readiest then. We’ll kick their ass, whenever this thing happens.
    • The Reformatories will try and spin this as a victory for their side, naturally. They’ll say we Grits can’t object to their economic plan because we’ve supported their budget, blah blah blah. That’s a load of horseshit, and they know it: Stephen Harper got up on his hind legs and voted for a Paul Martin budget in May 2005, and it didn’t seem to come up very often in the election campaign that happened shortly afterwards, did it? Nope. He won that election; Michael will win the one that’s coming up.

    Is that not a great answer,Rich??? Could not have said it better myself

  • Jen

    This is why we are here in full force; anyone of us can put the likes of CBC CTV ROBERT FIFE TABER CLARK and others (who are still wondering who they are) in the shade.

    Just a while back FIFE on television told LLOYD ROBERSTON of CTV with a big smile on his face that when he tried to ask BOB RAE a question, RAE told FIFE ' TO SHUT UP' how pathetic is that.

    You see, you have to be among these non-entities who claim to be journalists to ask liberals serious questions “where is the missing money” and few others questions.
    At least you or anyone will feel good about oneself for doing the job which the liberal media refuse to tackle.

  • Rich

    Terry: you seem to be all over the map

    1. EI reform is simple a panel to discuss possible changes, whatever changes still have to be presented to Parliament and voted on. Prime Minister Harper already planned some changes in his campaign such as allowing self employed workers to opt into EI; if you don't believe me, this was mentioned on CTV Power Play.

    2 Ignatieff was given on extra opposition day on september 28: Ignatieff can try t defeat the government at that time, but he still needs the co-operation of the other two opposition parties to defeat the Conservatives, he cannot do it alone.

    3. wake up and bring yourself into the 21 century, there has be no reform party since Chretien left government.

    4. According to the National Post the Libs in the last election spent 21.7 million dollars and only raised 20.3 million leave a short fall of 1.4 million. ELections Canada has only approve 4 lib MPs expenses of 107 lib MP's so therefore they have not been reimbursed. This is not my information but National Post.

    5. Regarding Ignatieff honeymoon this was written in the National Post by Don Martin a very pro liberal writer

    6. I would like you to read the attached column written by L Ian Mcdonald

    Ignatieff's lousy week
    L. Ian Macdonald, National Post
    Published: Thursday, June 18, 2009
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/politic

  • MaryT

    I wonder if Terry has considered the advantage of PMSH as opposition leader. Lots of questions about those ascam liberals, questions re giving Paul Martin millions to avoid paying cdn taxes, why did they all the Brofmans to take their money out of Canada, tax free, Ask Holland what he read in the files he “found”, ask the Speaker if he has punished them for that trick. We would be chair of most if not all committees with freedom to investigate whatever we wanted, like adscam, the missing money, insist liberals pay it back, how about their ignoring Chalk River for years. Lots of questions to keep Iggy on his toes, and considering he was out of the country for most, if not all of it, he will be like a deer in the headlights. And no problem with these things happening years ago, didn't stop libs with Brian.
    PMSH would be doing us all a favor by getting at the truth of this. Then they could ask how their problem with election canada is going. Yep, lots of advantages to be in opposition, but it ain't going to happen. Did you watch QP today and see both Duceppe/Layton stick the knives into Iggy in Quebec.
    And imagine the ads asking, if Iggy is so conserned about Canada, why did he spend his summer flogging his book in Europe. Iggy loses big time in election, leaves the country and another leadership fiasco for the liberals. They might even beg for Dion to come back.

  • Rich

    Question is 'who is paying for Ignatieff's overseas trip to London” -the liberals are broke-they still owe canadians millions of dollars.

    MaryT, I just can't understand why the media and the liberals are constantly attacking the conservatives for; what is wrong with these people. now you see why we have lost complete trust in the media. How can you attack or accuse someone for the very problems you caused yourself.

    the liberals and their media blame the conservatives for the liberals very own problems.

    CBC CTV talk about about other countries corruption; when in truth, these medias support this (liberal) corruption themselves.

  • terry1

    Mary T…if you think there's a scandal under every Liberal rock then the same Tory scandals are just begging to be brought up. You live in a fantasy world.

    As for Iggy I'm glad you hate him so much because your mindset is one of serious partisanship and Iggy drives fear into the heart of that. Good stuff.

  • terry1

    Speaking of corruption I'm glad you brought it up:
    http://contrarian.ca/?p=1003

    “I wondered how long it would take for the media to discover that the infrastructure stimulus spending has everything to with patronage, and nothing to do with what is good for the nation. [Deputy Minister Louis] Ranger [whose retirement was announced yesterday] was pushed out of the job and told, “We don’t want your advice” regarding the spending projects. Indeed, the woman who is the ADM in charge of the file has been specifically told by the Minster’s office, “We don’t want your advice; we want you to do as you’re told.”

  • terry1

    Vic Toews what a sleazeball:

    • Venomous Vic Varning: Vic Toews should be very, very, very careful, no? I mean, if it’s to be no-hold-barred in Manitoba next time, with oppo teams digging away in dark corners, has Vic really considered where that may end up?

    Here's the link to his shady past:
    http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/columnists

    But nothing — NOTHING — will bolster voter cynicism about the Conservatives more than if Prime Minister Stephen Harper elevates former justice minister and current Treasury Board president Vic Toews to a Court of Queen's Bench judge's job.

    Winnipeg Free Press reporter Mia Rabson has discovered that a federal selection committee is checking out Toews for an imminent appointment.

    The mind reels. If the Conservatives under Harper stood for anything while in Official Opposition with Toews as the justice critic, it was a clean bench kept clear of patronage deadwood.

  • terry1

    More good news for reformaTORY types;

    WINNIPEG — The federal Liberal party is out of debt and financially ready to conduct a “fully funded (election) campaign,” its national president said in Winnipeg Tuesday.

    Alfred Apps said the party has raised nearly as much money in the first half of this year as it did all last year, when it took in $5.9 million.

    “You can assume that we’re going to report somewhere over $5 million for the first six months (ending June 30),” Apps said in an interview following a speech to the Laurier Club of Manitoba.

    He added that the past three months have been the best fund-raising quarter for the party in “many, many years.”

    Apps, in town for meetings with provincial Liberals, attributed the boost in fund-raising to the momentum generated by crowning a new leader in Michael Ignatieff and to “the recovery of the party generally.”

    He also argued that recent Conservative attack ads targeting Ignatieff have backfired and spurred Liberal supporters to open their wallets.

    “People reacted very strongly to that,” he said.

    Meanwhile, national party membership, which dipped to 36,000 at the end of last year, is “closing in on 90,000,” and the Liberals are shooting for 200,000 by the end of 2009, he said.

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