“We created the country you live in. Never forget it”

In this collection of clips,

1) Ignatieff seems to forget he’s in Canada.
2) An example of Ignatieff’s I, I, I problem
3) A declaration that the election is, to Ignatieff, about the Liberal Party reclaiming its place in Canada.
4) Not a hint of arrogance (because he says so)
5) A tired old attack line.

Comments

comments

  • http://www.breastpumpdeals.com/medela-pump-in-style-advanced-metro-bag.html Medela metro bag

    I totally agree with you on this, you definitely got it right.

    Debra

  • redneck

    Your correct on one thing terry Harper almost invented the word arrogance. That distinction would have to go to a hero of yours Trudeau.

  • redneck

    Your correct on one thing terry Harper almost invented the word arrogance. That distinction would have to go to a hero of yours Trudeau.

  • Gayle

    I have always had a soft spot for the Irish – which is strange considering I used to live in Scotland… or maybe that's why.

  • http://www.wernerpatels.com/ Werner Patels

    “We created the country you live in, never forget it”

    No, don’t worry, we won’t. That’s why it’s such a dysfunctional mess that’d be better off as separate and independent provinces, and one that will never be able to compete with the US, no matter how lousy things get south of the border.

    Yes, indeed, thanks a million, Liberal Party of Canada, you “Canadian institution”

  • http://www.wernerpatels.com/ Werner Patels

    “We created the country you live in, never forget it”

    No, don’t worry, we won’t. That’s why it’s such a dysfunctional mess that’d be better off as separate and independent provinces, and one that will never be able to compete with the US, no matter how lousy things get south of the border.

    Yes, indeed, thanks a million, Liberal Party of Canada, you “Canadian institution”

  • terry1

    Stephen, is this really the conservative ideology you subscribe to and support?

    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/641670

    During question period yesterday, Harper told the Commons he had lots of videotapes featuring Ignatieff, raising the spectre of using them to discredit the opposition leader before and during the next election campaign.

    “I cannot fire the Leader of the Opposition and with all the tapes I have on him, I do not want to,” he said.

    Ignatieff described the comment as the “most Nixonian” of Harper's many remarks to him. “Every day that goes by, he's more like Richard Nixon,” Ignatieff told reporters.

  • terry1

    Gayle, she simply follows her leaders wishes……be an attack dog,lie ,cheat and even steal and everything will turn up roses becasue voters are stupid

  • terry1

    I will because you seem like such a sweetheart at least to a rat.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Take ownership of this blog

  • terry1

    ridenrain,That's not true at all. you must post smut or close to it and anything that compliments SH is smut in Liberal terms. LOL

  • terry1

    Here's grit girl with more truth videos for you boys and girls:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPH3QyTIx1U&eurl

    Stephen, once again. You seem like a principled guy. How can you support these lies?

  • Anne in sw ON

    It seems that 'terry1' would be well-advised to start up his/her own blog and leave a link on this one so that we can choose whether we wish to deliberately follow his/her particular arguments. He/she has apparently co-opted Stephen's blog as his/her own partisan response to the recent conservative truth ads. His/her recent diatribes have become monotonous and are obviously falling on deaf ears as the overwhelming majority of posters at this site are supporters of a government terry1 despises. Shoo, terry1.

  • David

    Is it really that bad? If so then Ignatieff must pull the plug. He put the government on 'probation”. Iggy and the Libs have supported the budget and propped up the gov't up to and including this day.It is clear now that he can no longer do this.

    So, yet again your arguement is with him not with the Cons.Iggy says he is American and you say he is not .Fine. Iggy still supports the gov't., you don't. Fine. Your postings here won't change that.

    It is essentially like you are at an Elvis convention screaming “Elvis sucks!”.In the meantime those who you think agree with you are helping them put on their Elvis jackets.

    Finally you should be thankful ,and perhaps you are, that Stephen puts up with your nonsense.I know that other blogs, Kinsella comes to mind, won't put up many postings that are negative to their guy,even if they are free of insults.

    Thank you ,thank you very much!

  • Liz J

    I note Gayle has divulged she has a soft spot for the Irish. That would be a generalization so guess since I'm Irish I'm included. I am truly chuffed.

    Gotta get out of here before I hurl… in a broader sense of the word.

  • Beer and Popcorn

    Media / message control and social engineering – two cornerstones of the Liberal strategy

  • terry1

    David,

    1.Iggy must pull the plug but I don't think summer is the time. Let him do it in September when more Canadians will think about politics a little more. These guys are simply idealogues with no economic principles or ideas on how to run an efficient economy.

    2. The garbage about Iggy being an American is purely nonsensical. What sole passport does he carry?

    3. I am thankful for people who create these blogs and do appreciate it. Kinsella is not a true blogger as Taylor is. There are others out there that represent values and do accept others POV's. You are writing nonsense as well.

  • terry1

    Anne, maybe I'm simply trying to make people understand that Harper is not a true conservative. The guy does not respect democractic principles of any kind. Its my way or the highway according to him. Its that simple,and I want him on the highway as do the vast majority of Canadians .

  • David

    This is a copout. Iggy has demanded the resignation of the Minister of Finance. You claim Harper is not democratic and that most Canadians want him out yet you don't want an election. I suspect in September there will be another excuse not to pull the plug as there was in the winter and the spring. The Cons. are counting on it. If people are not paying attention now that there is a huge deficit, then what will change that in the fall.

    Iggy's credibility crumbles if he does nothing, He will probably take your advice and do just that.Nothing.

  • east of eden

    Oh, please. My way or the highway? Terry1, now I know that you're only spouting talking points. One failed MP kept repeating that over and over. There is absolutely no indication that this is true – it is simply one more Lib slander against our PM. Oh, and BTW – that lie was shelved ages ago, try to keep up with the current Lib lies, why don't you?

    Vast majority of Canadians? Please, another lie. Terry1, you make the most sweeping statements with absolutely nothing to back them up. You want him gone, fine. You're misguided but you have that right to be misguided.

    You are so easy to shoot down. At least Gayle can give us some rational arguments, wrong though they may be, but she never makes idiotic sweeping statements like you do.

  • east of eden

    Please, you do so, Gayle. You are the one who always resorts to the old “personal attacks” thingie. In fact, you're the one who invented that thingie.

  • terry1

    Miss Eden, please look at how harper is acting these days with his threat of blackmail yesterday as one excample. Please look at the polls particularly those two recent ones in quebec. Harper is becoming a serious liability to his own party.

    Shooting me down is not so easy because I do read and understand the dynamics…..you should try it instead of playing three blind mice all day long.

    the Tory partisans here should be thoroughly embarrassed to have a thug like this man as leader of our Country.

  • Beer and Popcorn

    Terry – try to think about your response and at least attempt to make some sense before you just blurt out the same stuff.

    Who is polling in the mid 40's in leadership?

    Who defeated Paul Martin and Stephane Dion and established a more muscular minority mandate in each of the last two elections?

    Who has executed a plan (renovations tax credit, oil sands development) which has stabilized unemployment , driven economic growth and created stimulus in the economy (stonger dollar, stronger equity markets)?

    Harper.

    Why are Liberals so concerned about Canadians wanting to know more about Mr Ignatieff's past?

    Where has he been for the past 35 years and why is he back? Why did he call the U.S. his country and Britain his adopted country? These are not things that are made up. These are document FACTS. And things that Canadians want answers to.

    The media can only strike back on his behalf for so long. Canadians want him to answer.

  • Jen

    As long the new american god is there as a DEMOCRAT president -LPOC new title is 'WE ARE ALL AMERICANS'
    as long as a REPUBLICAN IS THERE as a president – LPOC title is 'WE ARE ALL CANADIANS'

    It is amazing that the american say CANADIANS go ' 'GAG GAG over OBAMA – EVEN HIS TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT IS A WELCOMING SIGHT TO THE LPOC AND THEIR MEDIA.
    No wonder the LPOC AND OPPOSITION PARTIES rail on the PM for not following in OBAMA FOOTSTEPS.

  • Bocanut

    Has Gayle admitted to any kind of political affliation here yet or is she still fooling herself by claiming to not be a Liberal trolling for attention??

  • east of eden

    Threatening an election every time the PM sneezes is blackmail. What the PM did yesterday is mild in comparison. The PM is putting one person on notice. Ignatieff is playing with 35 million persons when he keeps threatening an election or vowing to “mess him back”. Good grief, Terry1, at least lift the blinders for a split second.

    Shooting you down is like fishing in a barrel. You do not understand the dynamics – if you did, your comments would make sense. Harper is not a thug. Chretien is a thug. Ignatieff is a thug wannabe.

  • Cynical viewer

    Ignatieff lived in other countries for 34 years, and just recently returned here – just to run for politics. That makes him a CARPETBAGGER, by any definition.
    If that weren’t arrogant and elitist enough, Iggy not only runs for politics, he thinks that Canadians should give the biggest job in the land, to a CARPETBAGGER.
    Iggy IS a CARPETBAGGER, no matter how much the Liberals and their media pals try to disguise it.
    Now, or in the next election, Canadians will just have to decide, if they think someone who has lived outside the country for 34 of the last 38 years, should be given the biggest job in the land.
    He sure as hell won’t get me or my family’s votes.

  • Jen

    If any of you have a friend who was born here but lives overseas for over 35-40 years, wants to have a cheap way of making money he can join the liberal party of canada, do as he pleases, insult the media all he wants and presto he is a real liberal politican.

    Anyone no matter how serious his background can join the liberal party of canada without ever you knowing of his past -just like the media is hiding the canadian born american IGNATIEFF.

  • Gabby in QC

    A very interesting read by Brian Lilley, Ottawa Bureau Chief for CFRB and CJAD here:
    http://www.cfrb.com/node/934651
    “… The current national rate of joblessness in this country is 8%. Back when the EI reforms were introduced in 1996, the national unemployment rate was 9.6%. [http://www.stats.gov.nl.ca/Statistics/Labour/PDF/UnempRate_7608.pdf] …
    … Does anyone remember the 1982 recession? Unemployment was much higher then, reaching 12% in 1983, this at a time when inflation was in double digits and a good deal on a mortgage was an interest rate below 20%.
    [Ahhh, memories … who was in power then …? Oh yeah, the Trudeau Liberal years, with a very brief Joe Clark interlude …]

    Back to Mr. Lilley's blog post:
    If Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff wants to improve EI for the workers of today then he should be coming up with solutions the government can and will accept or something he can force a reasonable compromise on. Instead he has taken the NDP policy of 360 hours of work to qualify for EI, made it his own and told the government “meet my demands or else.” It's a dangerous game.”

    Rational thinking, not just rah! rah! sections for the opposition, can still be found among Press Gallery members. Very refreshing.

  • terry1

    So if iggy is wrong in trying to force an election over Harpercrite's incompetence was harper right in calling an election last fall over nothing but his own ego trying to get a majority. Harper played with 35mm people then and still does today with an economic fiasco he is creating.

    Maybe its your blinders that need to come off.

    If you call your ineffective arguments shooting me down I will certainty live a long politcal blog life span. Give your head a shake.

  • east of eden

    I think I have figured out Terry1's real identity. Think about it. No substance to his or her comments – just hatred of Stephen Harper. No reason to hate him but he/she hates him, just the same. Who do we know who has an axe to grind with our PM and who has made a recent career of slagging our PM – going on a couple of years or more. Terry1 – I am 99% sure I know who you are. Guess what – you won't turn us off on Stephen Harper so I have to ask this one question – why do you come here to peddle your hatred when there is no point. to it?

  • terry1

    Iggy is polling in the high 30's and harpercrite is polling around the low 20's…get your facts straight.

    Harper did not do the martin thing without help from the RCMP and the adscam scandal…he would not have made it otherwise. dion was persceuted beyond anything anyone should be and Iggy is giving some of that back with interest.

    I'm not cdoncerned about Iggy's overseas experience….I did the same thing for 15 years and did very well with the knowledge I brought back to Canada. Some of us do go in the world and accomplish things; but it appears to be uncanadian to do so in your narrow beady eyes

  • terry1

    Gabby before you get off your high horse let me remind you that unemployment has yet to peak in this recession and if you compared apples to apples you would hav enoted that a larger % of the population was eligible for EI back then. Don't let facts get in your way though because they seems to bother you.

  • terry1

    Miss Eden deary…you are completely off base.

  • terry1

    I didn't say I don't want an election. I said Canadians would be more engaged in the electoral process come september. you see I believe in democracy and in trying to get full participation of the population. I know that 's not the Tory way but so be it.

    You under estimate Iggy and the Libs if you think he'simply playing chicken. But live out your fantasy.

  • Gabby in QC

    Hmmm, interesting theory, East of Eden. Since I visited the blog of the person in question only twice, I'm curious: was he also prone to making many spelling mistakes/typos, angry retorts, and rude remarks?

    Your theory sounds plausible. Isn't he currently unemployed?
    That would explain the number of his comments here. Mind you, I've made a few myself … are there any quotas set?

  • Beer and Popcorn

    Actually we are still very near what economists call the structural rate of unemployment or 'full employment'. I'd be fascinated by what you are calling 'peaking' Terry?!

  • Liz J

    You know Terry1 is correct, he has NOT done squat, he's done much more, all the things you list Gabby, and more. The English language is so technical, gotta watch those double negatives and such as well.

    However Terry wouldn't have time for such considerations, he's working on this blog 24/7,no time for spelling and grammar.

  • terry1

    B&P..what is it, full employment or structural unemployment.

    Full employment is when the unemployment rate is around 4.3 %. Structural unemployment is when the rate stays above 7.5% or so over a certain period of time.

  • terry1

    wrong guy…. I don't own any blogs and you won't guess who I am becasue I am unknown to all of you here. East of Eden must be one of those conspiracy types who see bogey men around every corner. Gabby maybe a close second

  • Beer and Popcorn

    Sorry Charlie – see below – its between 7-8% in Canada and 5-6% in the US – we are near full employment. Thanks PM Harper.

    http://www.adelphi.edu/peoplematter/pdfs/Chorne

    “For the past thirty years ever since the embrace by the central banks and the financial
    markets of Milton Friedman's counter-revolution in macro-economic theory
    unemployment has averaged above 7 % in Canada and above 5 % in the United States.
    Because of this many neo-classical economists who accept the doctrine of the natural
    rate of unemployment argue that the natural rate lies between 7 and 8 % for Canada and
    5 to 6 % for the United States.The natural rate argument turns on the notion that any rate
    of unemployment below this rate is unstable and will cause inflation to accelerate
    upwards eventually forcing unemployment up as well. “

  • Alex

    Yeah, gee whiz get a clue Conservatives, if it wasn't for that widespread government corruption the Liberals never would have lost.

  • Cynical viewer

    No worries about Iggy ever getting elected to PM. With the rabid dog Kinsella “helping”, it can only turn out bad.

  • terry1

    So some guys masters program is your expert opinion!!!!! wow is all I can say.

    The fact of the matter is that the US has lost millions of jobs over the last two years and Canada has lost over 650K jobs. We were not at 7% bf this all started and had not been three since the 90's if I remember correctly.

    Your illogic is still perverse.

  • terry1

    yep and if it wasn't for that cash Mulroney took in some hotel room the tories would never lose an election either.

  • Gabby in QC

    Terry1, you really must stop viewing everything posted by a conservative through your “I hate Tories” prism.

    All I've done is simply point out a very different and legitimate take on EI, a very refreshing one, from a member of the Press Gallery, that's all. I believe Mr. Lilley's excellent blog post deserves a read.
    Where's the “high horse” I'm supposedly on?
    If anything's “high” it's your anger meter.
    You'd better be careful; you sound like you're headed for an aneurysm.
    Despite your vitriol and venom, I wouldn't want anything drastic to happen to you.

  • Liz J

    You're being silly,you gotta know better. Go off and get the proper info on unemployment and get back to us with the facts. We'll be waiting. No doubt you're one of the ones flogging the Liberal plan to work a bit over a month and collect for the rest of the year. How can anyone with a brain capable of reasoned thought believe that nonsense can be sustained?

  • Gabby in QC

    I'm not sure why the link provided by Mr. Lilley in his blog post did not work above, but here's some interesting data from that link:
    http://www.stats.gov.nl.ca/Statistics/Labour/PD

    Unemployment rates from 1993 onwards:
    1993 – 11.4%
    1994 – 10.4
    1995 – 9.5
    1996 – 9.6
    1997 – 9.1
    1998 – 8.3
    1999 – 7.6
    2000 – 6.8
    2001 – 7.2
    2002 – 7.7
    2003 – 7.6
    2004 – 7.2
    2005 – 6.8
    2006 – 6.3
    2007 – 6.0
    2008 – 6.1

    BTW, the highest year listed was 1983 at 12% unemployment.

  • terry1

    Liz J hysterical…why don't you bring our some facts instead of bleating like a know it all, typical angry tory. I posted what I know to be factual and if it isn't let us know. Unlike the Hsrperites we are human and do make some mistakes………..I'll even let you know when my first one happens for this year…..LOL

  • terry1

    Gabbby the lone QC tory…..thanks for asking about my blood pressure……………it was just checked today and was 110/70. That's pretty good for a supposedly “angry person' so I expect I'll be around to see PMMI in action in the near term.