Ruby Dhalla press conference

Ruby Dhalla (via her lawyer) states that it was her brother, Neil Dhalla, that owns the three chiropractor clinics which the nannies were allegedly made to clean and Dhalla’s lawyer says it was Neil Dhalla who allegedly took the passports from the nannies.

Who is Neil Dhalla?

In this 2005 election ad from the Liberal party, Ruby Dhalla’s brother states that “the Canadian economy has remained strong and [he thinks] it’s because of the Liberal vision…”

UPDATE: Looks like Kate was watching the presser at the same time and was thinking the same thing. After all, we worked on these posts together back in 2005. <sarcasm>Of course, this just indicates that this is all part of a larger nefarious Conservative conspiracy!</sarcasm>

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  • Hisz

    ooooh that neil dhalla… i feel bad for him. what kind of sister puts her brother out to dry? even if it was him… still not cool on her part. guess it really shows her true colours

  • Sanjeev

    Alligation is that abuse took place in Ruby dhalla's house. She can try to distance herself as much she can try but how????????????????

  • Beer and Popcorn

    I knew, somehow, this was the fault of those damn Cons!

    I also knew that the nice, smiling, pretty multicultural woman was the victim.

    This is the way it works in Trudeau's Canada..

  • http://hallsofmacadamia.blogspot.com/ neo

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    damn… somehow i knew it just had to be those knuckle-draggin' neocons that were conspiring to bring poor ruby down.

    thank goodness liberal leader michael ignatieff has spoken out so strongly in her defense.

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  • Powell Lucas

    Up until today’s press conference I was undecided about Ms. Dhalla’s complicity in this whole sordid mess. After watching that dog-and-pony show I am now convinced that she was involved up to her eyebrows. Her defense seems to consist primarily that it was all the brother’s doing.
    Funny thing, when my late wife decided she could beat the one-armed bandits and scammed the bank in the name of one of my companies while I was working on a one year contract in Mexico, the courts wouldn’t accept my plea that I was absent when the activity took place. As far as they were concerned, since I was the principle owner of the companies, it was my responsibility to oversee their operation. I guess, if you’re not an MP, not a woman, and don’t look as good as Ms. Dhalla, there is a different set of rules.

  • Powell Lucas

    Up until today’s press conference I was undecided about Ms. Dhalla’s complicity in this whole sordid mess. After watching that dog-and-pony show I am now convinced that she was involved up to her eyebrows. Her defense seems to consist primarily that it was all the brother’s doing.
    Funny thing, when my late wife decided she could beat the one-armed bandits and scammed the bank in the name of one of my companies while I was working on a one year contract in Mexico, the courts wouldn’t accept my plea that I was absent when the activity took place. As far as they were concerned, since I was the principle owner of the companies, it was my responsibility to oversee their operation. I guess, if you’re not an MP, not a woman, and don’t look as good as Ms. Dhalla, there is a different set of rules.

  • ed hastings

    Can someone post the “entire” news conference and question and answer session.
    On all the MSM sites the only video is Ms. Dhalla issuing a statement. The real fireworks was wen her lawyer started to attack the media and by inuendo the conservatives.
    If anyone has the video of the reporters questions following Dhalla's statement please provide a link or post, I heard it live, but would like to hear it again as I can't believe the lawyers technique

    ed

  • http://www.bluelikeyou.com/ Joanne (T.B.)

    Why do you think that there was no Liberal signage at all during this presser?

  • terry1

    because the conservatives wouldn't release theirs…..it was their idea to expose this wasn't it?

  • http://paulsrants-paulsstuff.blogspot.com/ paulsstuff

    “because the conservatives wouldn't release theirs…..it was their idea to expose this wasn't it?”

    That's right Terry, The Conservative's conspired with three nannies who worked in the home a year ago, an employment agency, A company called Intercede who has the phone call with Dhalla documented , the Toronto Star, and of course, two Ontario Liberal cabinet ministers.

    Yep, all makes sense now. All a Conservative conspiracy.

  • LOL

    Does this mean the College of Chiropractors of Ontario (CCO) will be investigating Neil. If Ruby’s claims are true then a person like Neil should not be allowed to keep his license.

  • LOL

    Does this mean the College of Chiropractors of Ontario (CCO) will be investigating Neil. If Ruby’s claims are true then a person like Neil should not be allowed to keep his license.

  • batb

    Comments cross-posted at Angry in the Great White North:

    Well, … we know for a fact what the Librano default position is when a Liberal rock's been lifted to reveal creepy crawlies scurrying from the light: “I didn't do it!” “It's not my fault!” “It's his fault! It's her fault! It's Stephen Harper's fault! It's George W. Bush's fault!” “It's the Conservatives' fault!”

    These guys are so morally and ethically bankrupt, they can never own up to anything they have done which is questionable or just plain wrong. Sadly, their being strangers to truth seems to be the logical consequence of “equality” education and toxic “multiculturalism.” “Wrong” and “illegal” just don't figure in their vocabulary; they've been struck from their dictionary. …

    … And, evidently, from the MSM's dictionary too.

    Watching Don Martin and his MSM/PPG colleauges commenting yesterday made me gag. Many of them alleged that the Conservatives are making hay out of this latest Lib scandal, whereas I see no evidence of it. I don't see any Conservatives on the telly calling for Dhalla's blood; for that matter, I see very few Conservatives on TV. Period.

    This is a conceit that works for the MSM; they can then beat up on the Conservatives if they see them beating up on Ruby. 'Only problem is: It's not happening. Of course, a little thing like reality never stopped the Liberal-Cheerleader-Cover-Up-Attack Dog-MSM from manufacturing faux indignation against PMSH and his party.

    Canada's MSM: the UNELECTED, unofficial, disloyal Opposition — and the only hope the Liberals have of winning an election.

  • Ronald

    What’s the problem here? Obviously, in this case ( Water is thicker than blood). The misfortune is that Ms. Dhalla’s lawyer should be looking “within” and not “outside” the LPC. Having watched the presser made me wonder if she could have better spent her capital on a competent attorney – Not the bumbling machination card banger theory.
    Time will tell and it aint going to be pretty. Good to know Mr. Ignatieff is backing her 100%. Check his pockets for a bus schedule – What is the time of arrival? For good measure, Judy Sgro of (stripper) fame is certainly an superlative reference and endorsment. Don Martin, well, he’s just another sap who doesn’t know up from down along with the usual Clowns who we all have become accustomed and recognize.

  • Ronald

    What’s the problem here? Obviously, in this case ( Water is thicker than blood). The misfortune is that Ms. Dhalla’s lawyer should be looking “within” and not “outside” the LPC. Having watched the presser made me wonder if she could have better spent her capital on a competent attorney – Not the bumbling machination card banger theory.
    Time will tell and it aint going to be pretty. Good to know Mr. Ignatieff is backing her 100%. Check his pockets for a bus schedule – What is the time of arrival? For good measure, Judy Sgro of (stripper) fame is certainly an superlative reference and endorsment. Don Martin, well, he’s just another sap who doesn’t know up from down along with the usual Clowns who we all have become accustomed and recognize.

  • Liz J

    Terry, you really are PATHETIC.

    This has what pray tell to do with the Conservatives ?

    It's between the Dhalla family and the people they employed who happened to be vulnerable immigrant women. The politics is Ruby herself who happens to be a Liberal MP.

    Maybe you should take a gander within the Liberal ranks who would be privy to far more info regarding Ruby than Conservatives. Hell, why not blame Canada?

  • terry1

    hey BAT B…w eare still awaitng for Harper's answers on Cadman, in and out scheme, whether Mulroney should be tired ,etc., so lets not get carried away here. Then again you are another angry tory and you hate theh thought of being in opposition again for another 15 years.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Please keep on topic

  • Omanator

    Terry1. It seems to me its the Liberal Toilet that is backing up. Besides this affair was known to the Prov. Liberals for two weeks and they sat on it hoping it would go away. If Ruby (God Forbid) had been a Conservative there would have been Blood in the streets and another TV. Performance a la the Mulroony-Schreiber affair. You are not only stupid you are disgusting to try to white wash this. I myself would like to see a Police Investigation. When the so called Ethic Committy gets working it will be white washed so clean no Tide could do it better. I would like to hear the truth for once. If this goes on in the Press as has been for the last two weeks the three women will be so intimidated that they won't say a word. But then maybe that is the tactics of the Liberals.

  • http://www.stephentaylor.ca Stephen Taylor

    Please refrain from making personal insults to other commenters.

  • Omanator

    I don't believe what I saw here. The Cons under Harper payed down the debt and made us the first among the G7 and this clown tries to give the credit to the Liberals? God have Mercy. No wonder they don't known their backs from the front.

  • Liz J

    I agree, it's an issue that does require a police investigation and may well be referred to the RCMP.

    The accusations of taking advantage of vulnerable immigrants is beyond despicable and insidious but taking a passport is criminal.

    This affair will be a litmus test for the credibility of more than Dhalla, it will include all those Liberal apologists. Trying to shift the blame to the victims is telling in itself in this type of case. They'll be portrayed as the bad guys because they didn't understand something or other. Hopefully they have proof and good legal reps or this will be puffin pooed.

    It's good to know that Ignatieff is backing her, he's made a decision so he must have the inside knowledge needed.

    It's ironic strippergate Judy would be first to come to her aid to offer support and advice. Dhalla can only hope this turns out as well for her as the strippergate affair did for Judy.

  • paulsstuff

    Terry, can you please explain how the Conservative's managed to get three nannies, hiring agency, Intercede, Toronto Star, and two Ontario liberal cabinet ministers to help them “expose this”.

    You made that statement, so kindly back it up.

  • terry1

    Liz J, its good to know you would like to see an RCMP investigation especially since the RCMP has been so good under Harper's lap dog who is now running that messed up force. Rest assured justice will really be done by that bunch.

    I think it would be proper if Dhalla was given a little time to make her case and see if it is a smear job or not. Iggy has told her she's out of the party if she cannot clear her name, so please don't lie about that issue. Then again disneyland is your home.

  • terry1

    The Star had a leak from someone somehow.
    The nannies obviously are no longer on her family's payroll. I've seen this play before and its usually the employee trying to backstab the employer for various reasons and the press may have liked that part of the story better.
    Maybe the provincial cabinet minister saw something we haven't just yet. After all isn't you tories who think the press is always wrong or biased. Obviously scandals against liberals are an exception from that analysis.

    I'm not defending Ruby and neither is her party just yet. It will play out in time. The REAL facts will out.

  • Liz J

    Where was it reported that Iggy told her she's out of the party if she cannot clear her name?

    Under who's tenure did the RCMP become a “messed up force” ?

  • dupmar

    From the information released to date from the media, The Brampton MP can hardly argue this was family business involving her brother and mother that she ignored, was uninvolved in and unaware of. All evidence to date indicates she was directly involved in hiring, remuneration, allocation of work duties, firing, that she interceded with work agencies and provided assurances proper permits would be obtained, that she rushed back to Brampton from Ottawa on the eve of the scandal breaking open to ensure proper statements attesting to the facts passports were returned and payments received by employees were signed by applicants. Hardly the behavior of someone uninvolved and unaware. She does have particular responsibility to ensure all her dealings are beyond reproach given her status within the Liberal Party on issues relating to immigration, immigrant rights and multiculturalism.

  • paulsstuff

    “The Star had a leak from someone somehow. “

    Not sure how to explain this, but the Star interviewed the nannies, as well as the Liberal ministers and Dhalla herself, as well as the hiring agency and the women from Intercede.

    You do realize when a paper conducts an investigation, and asks questions and is given answers, then reports it, its 'not a leak, but journalism, right?

  • Liz J

    Haven't heard about Ignatieff saying she's out of the party if she cannot clear her name but that's one thing that goes without saying, a no-brainer, even for Liberals.

    Iggy has said they have given Dhalla support and advice and are working closely in his office with her. So she's getting support from the leader of the Opposition's Office to deal with these serious allegations.

    When it's regressed to Liberal apologists making accusations of “smear job” and the like, it's time to let the authorities find the truth. For the sake of Canadian politics in general we have to hope no MP would do what she's being accused of doing.

  • terry1

    Are you the RCMP? Why do I ahve to tell you my sources. However, if you were astute enough, and that's hard I know, you would understand from the MSM that she is done if she cannot prove the Star is wrong. Her lawyer went down thsat road yesterday and I think they aree well underway to proving her innocence. Iggy's off ice has believed her story for now until proven differently. Regardless how you think about Liberals this things stinks of political dirty tricks and is not something I would ever counsel my parrty to do. That's a tory thing, and more precisely a Harper thing.

    The RCMP has become even more dysfunctional under the new civilian director appointed by Harper. There is absolute anarchy in the ranks.

  • terry1

    Dupmar quote: “From the information released to date from the media,”

    Funny thing her lawyer has denied most of those points in the press conference and has stated he will show the opposite is true. Who to believe?

    I say let it play out because, as the tory hound dogs here are wont to state, the MSM is never right.

    Its not only her status within the liberal party that makes her accountabile, its her status as a citizen and employer. Everyone deserves to be treated equally in this Country which is much more in the vein of Liberal values as opposed to the regressive values within elements of the Tory party.

  • terry1

    The guy that interviewed Cadman had the stuff on tape and Harper, to this date, still denys any of it. Don't give me the gears about the press and accuracy. Scandals are what make them money and they do take risks with the truth on issues like this. Columnists are those who only give opinions and not “news” per se.

    Maybe the Star should be asked where, and from whom, they got their lead on this story. Interviews wiith people who were fired and are mad at their employer are very prone to answers that suit the reporter in some cases. I say let it play out.

  • east of eden

    Nice attempt at changing the channel. Sorry – it fell flat. As Stephen says – stay on topic.

  • east of eden

    If I recall, the Libs were in power during Sgro's troubles. It may turn out differently this time. I'd also like to know why the ethics commissioner is now involved – according to what I have read in the MSM of her side, Dhalla was not at all involved but, rather, her family. So, what does the ethics commissioner have to do with it? Is this a diversionary tactic?

  • east of eden

    Trudeau, if I recall my history correctly, brought in deficit financing to Canada and left a substantial debt. Mulroney paid down our debt but had to continue with programs which had begun with Trudeau. He introduced the GST as a way to pay down our debt. Along came Chretien with a promise to scrap the GST. He did not scrap the GST. The LPC used the GST, EI premiums, and reductions in transfer payments (anybody tried to get anything out of our health care system in a timely manner, lately?) and created successive “surprise” surpluses. Harper came along and returned some our overtaxation to us and continued to pay down our debt. The world went into recession and we are now faced with a deficit which is not different than any other country and now the LPC blames him for it. Let's be clear on one thing: debt and deficit are not the same thing. A debt is a debt and must be paid down or we pay horrendous interest. A deficit/surplus is a manufactured figure – a surplus can be created through ingenious accounting or by robbing Canadians.

    The CPC is honest about our deficit/surplus. The CPC has not robbed us in order to create something meaningless. Compared with debt, the deficit is insignificant. And remember – some of our debt is in the form of Canada Savings Bonds and other debenture types. If I have a $100 savings bond, Canada has a debt of $100. It's not the same as Canada going to the bank and borrowing money.

    If I have $1,000 in the bank and my income is $1,000 per month and I spent $1,500 in a given month, I have a deficit of $500. It does not mean that I am $500 in the hole because…I will repay it next month if I spend only $500. It's a shame that more people do not understand the meaninglessness of a deficit compared with a debt.

  • east of eden

    The Star is typically pro-Liberal so I tend to believe The Star when it publishes anything which is not pro-Liberal. The Star traditionally is very hard on Stephen Harper and very easy on any Liberal. You said, : “The Star had a leak from someone somehow.” Are you now admitting that you made a false accusation about the Conservatives exposing this? Are you retracting your statement and apologizing?

  • east of eden

    Of course her lawyer will deny. But…salient point here…she, herself has not yet out and out denied that the abuse took place. That raised my antennae.

  • east of eden

    The source of the lead is not relevant. The story is relevant. The testimony of the THREE nannies is relevant. As for Cadman – stay on topic, please. Do not change the channel, if you don't mind.

  • Liz J

    This is not a thread about Cadman, not any comparison to it, it's a dead issue the Liberals like to cling to, even while Mr Cadman's widow sits as a Conservative MP.

    We realize it's a real shocker to Liberals to have the Red Star do investigative journalism, print the findings sans spin and bias. We can only hope they've entered a new era, and continue along this road. It could be they realize their survival could hinge on it.

    Terry, you incredibly say it's risky to tell the truth on issues like this, risky for who? Do you suggest they lie, do what Puffins do and hide the real stuff because its a Liberal who's involved?

  • gimbol

    What I don’t want to see happen is the investigation into this get sidetracked or misdirected by politics.

    The question, which during the presser was asked, is did someone hire an illegal without the proper paperwork.

    The lawyer seems to want to deflect that question from being asked.
    First thought I had when I saw that is that the accussed doesn’t want to be asked that.

  • gimbol

    What I don’t want to see happen is the investigation into this get sidetracked or misdirected by politics.

    The question, which during the presser was asked, is did someone hire an illegal without the proper paperwork.

    The lawyer seems to want to deflect that question from being asked.
    First thought I had when I saw that is that the accussed doesn’t want to be asked that.

  • terry1

    the cadman reference was very appropriate in that the rporter was challenged and his tape was the subject of a court case. That file has been stifled by the Harperites by force of money used to kill off the ability of the reporter to get hiss tory out. But, in case you wonder if its dead think again. I know of strrings in this case that will come out a the appropriate time.

    What did I say was risky? I said let it play out. The star published the story w/o any opportunity for Dhalla to defend herself.
    The Indo Canadian press is hinting there is some anti Sikh issues at play and possibly other political stuff.

    Your anti liberal mind set distracts from your ability to judge on merits but simply on antil liberal diatribes. I said above that if she has done wrong she will be turfed from the party and obviously Iggy is smart enough to know that Tory politics are the stuff of scum bag tactics, dirty ads and cheap shot innuendos all of which are playing badly with the Canadian public these days. he will therefore give her some time to disprove the allegations. That's the right thing to do.

  • terry1

    Cadman is relevant. it was a press scandal as well.

  • Liz J

    So, Terry, they did interview those concerned, and reported it, what's so wrong about that? What would Dhalla have to say further in defense beyond that interview? They were reporting both sides, not engaging in a debate.

    Terry, what did you mean by “…they do take risks with the truth on issues like this” ? If it's risky to tell the truth, we aren't in a very good place.

    What has this affair got to do with Conservatives? Are you saying if this were a Conservative MP your anti-Conservative “mindset” would not affect your “ability to judge on merits”. Whatever you mean by “merits” in this case.

    You are quite amusing, accusing others of anti-Liberal diatribe then go on an anti-Conservative rant yourself.

  • Liz J

    I repeat, under who's tenure as PM did the RCMP become “a messed up force”?

    The Conservatives are doing another clean up left by the past government(s) of we all know who, excepting those in denial of course.

    Thanks for insinuating I'm not “astute” enough. Keep the insults coming, doesn't add to the debate but it proves you're out of ammo.

  • terry1

    I repeat the RCMP has become a gong show ever since Harper appointed his guy who had no police experience. What was the clean up required from past governments…please let us know.

    I wasn't insinuating I was stating a fact. if its not a tory good thing it thus has to be a liberal bad thing in your world.

  • terry1

    Why are you changing the channel…I thought that wasn't allowed per your post baove.

  • terry1

    I am openly anti Harper as are over 71% of Canadians per the latest polls. He simply must go for the sake of this country and I make no secret of that.

    There are rumours in the indo Canadian press of Tory behind the scenes involvement. I will leave it as rumour until all facts are on the table. Her seat is one the Tories crave badly and their history of dirty tricks and negative politics makes one naturally suspicious.

    The press does not get it right all the time and sensational stories are how they sell papers. and when there is competition for the story they sometimes do not get all the facts b/f publishing stuff.

  • Liz J

    mmmmmmm 71% of Canadians are anti-Harper. Sounds like we'll be having an election soon. Which poll(s) are you quoting? That's got to be a record for a sitting PM. How come that's not widely talked about?

  • Liz J

    BTW, why insult the intelligence and decency of so-called Indo-Canadians by saying there are rumours in their papers of “Tory involvement”. Stop digging your hole, you're already in deep enough.