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		<title>By: Julie F Outlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie F Outlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice article! nice site. you&#039;re in my rss feed now ;-)&lt;br&gt;keep it up</description>
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		<title>By: French_Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>French_Canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey  everyone, a small reaction from the province of Quebec... I must say i&#039;m a little frighten about all the fuss you guys are doing about this...  Let&#039;s all rationalize this, please keep the weapons in their rack  for god&#039;s sake !! You want some facts... here they are...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First ... this crisis was brought by a stupid prime minister who simply forgot that he is not a majority government... He might be a majority in Manitoba... but he is not in Canada... so he had to get at least one of the opposition party on his side... that&#039;s the rules of our country...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second... Like everybody else in this country, the majority of quebecer aren&#039;t interrested to see Stephane Dion as prime minister....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Third... Even if that doesn&#039;t please you, (and believe me I didn&#039;t vote for them either) The bloc Quebecois have been elected and are representing their canadian electors. Their seat at the house of commons has the same importance as any westerners seat...&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s face it, Harper created this mess, only him can stop it... Why cant he be humble for a second and ask canadians for forgiveness... Say he was wrong, promise he wont do it again, be like Obama in the state somebody who will unite governement instead of dividing a country...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He already recognized implicitely that his economic review was a very bad one and backed on almost every of his propositions... Why must he go on putting oil on an already intensly burning fire...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nobody wants a dictatorship in Ottawa, and nobody wants a lousy coalition either... Why is it that this government not  able to make it work !! it&#039;s not just the liberals !!  it&#039;s not just the bloc !!! I cant believe that Harper isn&#039;t able to create a coalition with at least one of the opposition parties and make it work !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey  everyone, a small reaction from the province of Quebec&#8230; I must say i&#39;m a little frighten about all the fuss you guys are doing about this&#8230;  Let&#39;s all rationalize this, please keep the weapons in their rack  for god&#39;s sake !! You want some facts&#8230; here they are&#8230;</p>
<p>First &#8230; this crisis was brought by a stupid prime minister who simply forgot that he is not a majority government&#8230; He might be a majority in Manitoba&#8230; but he is not in Canada&#8230; so he had to get at least one of the opposition party on his side&#8230; that&#39;s the rules of our country&#8230;</p>
<p>Second&#8230; Like everybody else in this country, the majority of quebecer aren&#39;t interrested to see Stephane Dion as prime minister&#8230;.</p>
<p>Third&#8230; Even if that doesn&#39;t please you, (and believe me I didn&#39;t vote for them either) The bloc Quebecois have been elected and are representing their canadian electors. Their seat at the house of commons has the same importance as any westerners seat&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#39;s face it, Harper created this mess, only him can stop it&#8230; Why cant he be humble for a second and ask canadians for forgiveness&#8230; Say he was wrong, promise he wont do it again, be like Obama in the state somebody who will unite governement instead of dividing a country&#8230;</p>
<p>He already recognized implicitely that his economic review was a very bad one and backed on almost every of his propositions&#8230; Why must he go on putting oil on an already intensly burning fire&#8230;</p>
<p>Nobody wants a dictatorship in Ottawa, and nobody wants a lousy coalition either&#8230; Why is it that this government not  able to make it work !! it&#39;s not just the liberals !!  it&#39;s not just the bloc !!! I cant believe that Harper isn&#39;t able to create a coalition with at least one of the opposition parties and make it work !!!</p>
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		<title>By: melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sound just like the rednecks who voted for McCain.  Fox news/ left wing soviet street protestors??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound just like the rednecks who voted for McCain.  Fox news/ left wing soviet street protestors??</p>
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		<title>By: Cinteri</title>
		<link>http://www.stephentaylor.ca/2008/11/fact-fiction-and-speculation/comment-page-2/#comment-3048</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinteri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody think that by removing the tax credits for corporations will help to stimulate thhe economy I would like to know how? &lt;br&gt;If the Canadian Government give subsidies to US owned Auto Manufactures before the US decide how they will handle the subject Canada would just be throwing the money away to possibly bankrupt US companies&lt;br&gt;As you point out the balance of power in Canada is held by a party dedicated to breaking up Canada &amp; supported in  whole by only one of the Ten Provinces, How can we as Canadians have allowed this situation to have happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody think that by removing the tax credits for corporations will help to stimulate thhe economy I would like to know how? <br />If the Canadian Government give subsidies to US owned Auto Manufactures before the US decide how they will handle the subject Canada would just be throwing the money away to possibly bankrupt US companies<br />As you point out the balance of power in Canada is held by a party dedicated to breaking up Canada &#038; supported in  whole by only one of the Ten Provinces, How can we as Canadians have allowed this situation to have happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you represent yourself.  Please don&#039;t pretend tht you represent the &quot;majority&quot; of Canadians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you represent yourself.  Please don&#39;t pretend tht you represent the &#8220;majority&#8221; of Canadians.</p>
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		<title>By: batb</title>
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		<dc:creator>batb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, &quot;Shady dealing from his government brought Canadians the Adscam Sponsorship Scandal&quot; and not only that, Kyoto, Mo Strong and Power Corps. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These guys are Hell bent for leather on getting the Kyoto stuff passed, paid for, and implemented by the Canadian taxpayers and they see that now&#039;s their opportunity. What systers. No wonder things are so nasty, so catastrophic. They need our money to invest in China and they have only a couple of more years in which to do this. This is their BIG CHANCE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is appalling but so predictable. Let&#039;s hope that PMSH and the CPC stay the course, despite the skullduggery and the shills in the MSM. It&#039;s getting to be all or nothing, and who in &quot;nice&quot; Canada a would have thunk it? Canadians are being played like a piano by the left. They pretend to care about us but all they really care about are their entitlements.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope that they&#039;ll soon be exposed for the ethical and moral pygmies they are. But in this Dystopian, Deranged Dominion, dominated, it seems, by the leftie educational, media, and political elites, one never knows, do one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, &#8220;Shady dealing from his government brought Canadians the Adscam Sponsorship Scandal&#8221; and not only that, Kyoto, Mo Strong and Power Corps. </p>
<p>These guys are Hell bent for leather on getting the Kyoto stuff passed, paid for, and implemented by the Canadian taxpayers and they see that now&#39;s their opportunity. What systers. No wonder things are so nasty, so catastrophic. They need our money to invest in China and they have only a couple of more years in which to do this. This is their BIG CHANCE.</p>
<p>This is appalling but so predictable. Let&#39;s hope that PMSH and the CPC stay the course, despite the skullduggery and the shills in the MSM. It&#39;s getting to be all or nothing, and who in &#8220;nice&#8221; Canada a would have thunk it? Canadians are being played like a piano by the left. They pretend to care about us but all they really care about are their entitlements.</p>
<p>I hope that they&#39;ll soon be exposed for the ethical and moral pygmies they are. But in this Dystopian, Deranged Dominion, dominated, it seems, by the leftie educational, media, and political elites, one never knows, do one?</p>
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		<title>By: shavluk</title>
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		<dc:creator>shavluk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahhahha

and soon you yourself may see your own ego......stupidly  trip you up as well stephan...

just like harper just did as he shot his own foot off.....
I loved it and saw this one coming from a mile away hahhhaa

good to see the karma of this move ....yes 

and didn&#039;t you just love harper then  try to just spin this as not his own doing.
some strategist hahhaha  yeah Canadians are that stupid harper 
put it off for a week as his fear and cowardice showed through

yes stephen more surprises are sure to come ...stay tuned.....as you deserve every thing you do get !!!

I of course know what you and your girlfriend have been up to and our plan will help you learn very many of life&#039;s lessons hahhaha

maybe tweeter this one off to your buddies again hahha

I will never forget and never forgive and I always repay in kind.

cheers loser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahhahha</p>
<p>and soon you yourself may see your own ego&#8230;&#8230;stupidly  trip you up as well stephan&#8230;</p>
<p>just like harper just did as he shot his own foot off&#8230;..<br />
I loved it and saw this one coming from a mile away hahhhaa</p>
<p>good to see the karma of this move &#8230;.yes </p>
<p>and didn&#8217;t you just love harper then  try to just spin this as not his own doing.<br />
some strategist hahhaha  yeah Canadians are that stupid harper<br />
put it off for a week as his fear and cowardice showed through</p>
<p>yes stephen more surprises are sure to come &#8230;stay tuned&#8230;..as you deserve every thing you do get !!!</p>
<p>I of course know what you and your girlfriend have been up to and our plan will help you learn very many of life&#8217;s lessons hahhaha</p>
<p>maybe tweeter this one off to your buddies again hahha</p>
<p>I will never forget and never forgive and I always repay in kind.</p>
<p>cheers loser</p>
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		<title>By: Doug McLeod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, This is a gift to Harper. Once more Dion has proved he&#039;s about the dullest knife in the drawer. The PM should allow the motion to go forward. If it manages to pass, great! Consider;

As a Liberal appointee, the GG may be obtuse enough to grant Dion who was just rejected by 72% of the populace the opportunity to form a Conspiracy (Coalition) government against a party who is only fifteen seats short of a Majority. That government would fall at the first vote unless they give in to the Bloc&#039;s blackmail at every turn - the word deficit doesn&#039;t begin to cover what would happen here, and from the HRDC scandal to the Gun regsitry to the Adscam debacle, the Libs have screwed up everything they&#039;ve touched since WW II. So the next election, which would happen very fast, the Libs, who are just a Toronto party now, are extinct. Layton gains prestige while the Liberals die. Certainly no problem there!

Or - Given the current conditions and as you point out, the GG refuses to go along with the coup where upon an Election is automatically required. Dion, again the reject of the last election and who has already said he&#039;s leaving, is immediately forced to fight yet another election before a Leadership convention is held. This election is where the PM gets to campaign on Dion&#039;s and Laytons attempt to overthrow the last election results, and their percieved to remain at the public trough because not enough of the populace is willing to support them. Does it get any better than that?

Third - the Toronto Libs get in against the will of the Canadian electorate and in doing disenfrancise the Conservative vote all across Canada - I can&#039;t speak for the east, but the west will be gone and very shortly - again we get rid of the Libs - this is a no lose situation for both the conservatives in general and Harper in particular. Let &#039;er go boys!

The shrillness of the lefties is precisely the same as it was in Oct - and the Libs got the worst showing since confederation. Harper will get his majority hands down. The electorate of this country voted in a (barely) minority governemt and the left is trying to tear it down at the first vote - let the motion go forward</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, This is a gift to Harper. Once more Dion has proved he&#8217;s about the dullest knife in the drawer. The PM should allow the motion to go forward. If it manages to pass, great! Consider;</p>
<p>As a Liberal appointee, the GG may be obtuse enough to grant Dion who was just rejected by 72% of the populace the opportunity to form a Conspiracy (Coalition) government against a party who is only fifteen seats short of a Majority. That government would fall at the first vote unless they give in to the Bloc&#8217;s blackmail at every turn &#8211; the word deficit doesn&#8217;t begin to cover what would happen here, and from the HRDC scandal to the Gun regsitry to the Adscam debacle, the Libs have screwed up everything they&#8217;ve touched since WW II. So the next election, which would happen very fast, the Libs, who are just a Toronto party now, are extinct. Layton gains prestige while the Liberals die. Certainly no problem there!</p>
<p>Or &#8211; Given the current conditions and as you point out, the GG refuses to go along with the coup where upon an Election is automatically required. Dion, again the reject of the last election and who has already said he&#8217;s leaving, is immediately forced to fight yet another election before a Leadership convention is held. This election is where the PM gets to campaign on Dion&#8217;s and Laytons attempt to overthrow the last election results, and their percieved to remain at the public trough because not enough of the populace is willing to support them. Does it get any better than that?</p>
<p>Third &#8211; the Toronto Libs get in against the will of the Canadian electorate and in doing disenfrancise the Conservative vote all across Canada &#8211; I can&#8217;t speak for the east, but the west will be gone and very shortly &#8211; again we get rid of the Libs &#8211; this is a no lose situation for both the conservatives in general and Harper in particular. Let &#8216;er go boys!</p>
<p>The shrillness of the lefties is precisely the same as it was in Oct &#8211; and the Libs got the worst showing since confederation. Harper will get his majority hands down. The electorate of this country voted in a (barely) minority governemt and the left is trying to tear it down at the first vote &#8211; let the motion go forward</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new political party getting voted in by the minority of the eletorate, winning the minority of seats in the legilature -  ignoreing the elected majority opposition and then enacting legislation to make it harder for opposing parties to survive? This is something the world has seen many times, and historians always ask why the majority didn&#039;t do something to stop the tyrany of a minority.

If Stephen Harper is removed from office by this coalition this will be Canadas first legal, democratic and totally non violent coup in history. Canada is doing what other politicians in other countries should have done when they had a chance - there are many examples I could use. This will provided the Conservatives with a heaping does of humility and maybe if they are returned to power some day they will keep this humility with them.

I have yet to see anyone in the Blogging Tories explain how 163 members removing 143 members  form Government is undemocratic. If anything, it is democracy in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new political party getting voted in by the minority of the eletorate, winning the minority of seats in the legilature &#8211;  ignoreing the elected majority opposition and then enacting legislation to make it harder for opposing parties to survive? This is something the world has seen many times, and historians always ask why the majority didn&#8217;t do something to stop the tyrany of a minority.</p>
<p>If Stephen Harper is removed from office by this coalition this will be Canadas first legal, democratic and totally non violent coup in history. Canada is doing what other politicians in other countries should have done when they had a chance &#8211; there are many examples I could use. This will provided the Conservatives with a heaping does of humility and maybe if they are returned to power some day they will keep this humility with them.</p>
<p>I have yet to see anyone in the Blogging Tories explain how 163 members removing 143 members  form Government is undemocratic. If anything, it is democracy in action.</p>
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		<title>By: whyshouldIsellyourwheat</title>
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		<dc:creator>whyshouldIsellyourwheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harper has lost.  The Conservative Party loses only if it follows him over the cliff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Conservative Caucus has to replace Harper and Flaherty this week.  Demand their resignations, and go the the House of Commons with a new PM and a new finance minister.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only alternative to a Harper minority is NOT a Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition.  It is a Conservative minority fronted by someone other than Harper.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conservative caucus...make it happen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Party and country come before the individual.  If Harper goes, the Conservative government can survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harper has lost.  The Conservative Party loses only if it follows him over the cliff.</p>
<p>The Conservative Caucus has to replace Harper and Flaherty this week.  Demand their resignations, and go the the House of Commons with a new PM and a new finance minister.</p>
<p>The only alternative to a Harper minority is NOT a Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition.  It is a Conservative minority fronted by someone other than Harper.</p>
<p>Conservative caucus&#8230;make it happen.</p>
<p>Party and country come before the individual.  If Harper goes, the Conservative government can survive.</p>
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